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i fly airplanes
Sep 6, 2010


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the_chavi posted:

Hey folks, so I'm buying a round-trip ticket to Asia for later this year with miles, and I'm trying to figure out the likelihood that I'll get upgraded to business class from economy based on my status with the airline. I'm buying X fare class tickets on United/Star Alliance airlines - does anyone know the breakdown of how each fare class may or may not be eligible for upgrade?

EDIT: ignore original post

You will not be upgraded on an X class fare, unless you get an "operational upgrade" from economy being oversold. Even then, you will be behind all revenue ticket purchasers in the same Premier class as you.

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i fly airplanes
Sep 6, 2010


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Aristotle Animes posted:

Y or B on TK metal, yes. W and up on UA metal are eligible for miles/copay and the higher class ticket you buy, the better your chance gets. Are you seeing TK Y & B for cheaper than UA W & up?

I hate the UA int'l upgrade lotto because it forces you to pay more for better chances but, if you are a lowly gold, you better be prepared to pay or be disappointed because you have all the GS, 1k, and plats ahead of you playing the same game.

My advice if you are going either TK or UA and want a sure thing is to shell out the miles for an saver award. Also avoid TK comfort class unless all you want is a bigger seat. TK J is great stuff but comfort is really inconsistent -source, colleague that flies IAH - IST 3 times a year.

Not to mention are you competing against Global Premier Upgrades, which are used on reservations outside of the GS/1K account!

i fly airplanes
Sep 6, 2010


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Aristotle Animes posted:

Indeed. A traveler sponsored with a GPU will clear with the premier account status it was sponsored from. So a GPU from a 1k would clear with the 1ks. Inside the group, the fare class will matter so a W (lowest upgradeable fare) will clear last among the 1ks using instruments (miles or GPU) and a Gold buying a Y or B fare would clear first among the Golds. What I don't know is if the UA Golds have to fight it out among the *Golds in hire fare buckets or if UA sweeps it's own premiers before alliance memebers with *Gold status. Which is potentially a lot of passengers.

GPUs from GS don't have minimum restrictions, so a GPU from a GS on a K fare (lol) will clear before a GPU from a 1K on a W fare.

I think Premiers before *G would get priority, even Silvers, since they are subject to the same fare buckets to upgrade into higher classes. I think *G requires Y or B as well, in addition to mileage and co-pay.

There's also some sneaky ways using award tickets too for int'l travel, there used to be something called "Plan B" tickets from CO days where you would book economy saver awards, be charged for business saver and then put on the upgrade list. You would always be #1 to clear because the system saw you as an IRROP-displaced J passenger. Which was a great way to get around UA not releasing J seats.

i fly airplanes
Sep 6, 2010


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Aristotle Animes posted:

Nice beni GS gets for sure is the no fare restriction for instrument upgrades. And if you are departing out of SFO, good luck because they're a bajillion GSs in San Fran... fuckin up my CPU rates every time I go down there.

Speaking of SFO, TK, and may the OP is interested in business class. If you are going to Istanbul in March '15, TK is opening a new route SFO-IST and the the J saver awards are WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open right now. It won't last forever tho.

Sweet, sweet, TK 773er business class.

Not to mention if you're connecting, TK gives you free hotel rooms for overnight connections, and the TK lounge is one of the best in the world.

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