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Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

Socrates16 posted:

Corporations are chartered by the state.

Yes, go on.

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Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

Socrates16 posted:

You're right. The state is just and pure. Ferguson has shown us the way.

You sound tired. Maybe you should take a break carrying all those strawmen around. Maybe try arguing in good faith for a refreshing change of pace.

Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot

DEKH posted:

Let's not forget the history of America either, the Pinkertons weren't just a detective agency after all, they killed a lot of men in the service of industrial magnates. Hell, anytime they couldn't buy off the police they simply brought in a private to crush any unionizing in their labor forces.

I'm amazed anyone with a working knowledge of American history could look at private armies with anything but contempt.

That is sort of the problem for a lot of Libertarian pie in the sky assertions. We can literally go back and witness the Neo-Feudal Robber Barons of the Gilded Age in Americans and what happens when you let private interests consolidate that much power without sufficient checks and regulation by a broader authority. Or how regulatory capture and lobbying has bowed those powers allowing modern corporations to skid around, fly under, or loophole their way to ever more profit, power without consequence to them and then dump the inevitable mess back on the public.

Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot
There is a compelling argument to be made for having a glut of money RIGHT NOW is better overall than slightly more money at a significantly later even in the long term due to things like opportunity costs. That should be all the more reason to more closely regulate owner/invest/etc's ability to just loving ravage and wring all the value out of a business and leave nothing but a dry husk and dust for the people left behind.

Berk Berkly fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Aug 17, 2014

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