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NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


"If Kevin Ward didn't want to die he shouldn't have stood by the side of the track in such a slutty revealing outfit. He was asking for it."

- Most NASCAR fans.

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NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


InterceptorV8 posted:

This is not true. But please feel free to try it on the road!

It is in developed countries.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Lorini posted:

If you think you automatically have the right of way at least in the US you're nuts.


NtotheTC posted:

It is in developed countries.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Cojawfee posted:

Anyone with a brain knows that Tony Stewart wouldn't seriously try to murder another athlete with hundreds of people watching. Anyone that is trolling and is an idiot thinks Tony Stewart is a murderer who consciously decided to run over some kid who was mad for some reason.

You can still be a murderer without having had the intent to kill, just for the record.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


nsaP posted:

No you really can't, by definition.

Intent to cause harm resulting in the death of there victim even if you didn't intend to kill them is still murder in the UK. What is it in the US?

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


When did we decide there was no intent to harm? Are we basing this on his stellar record and ability to keep a cool head in similar situations?

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


thehustler posted:

What the gently caress, it's manslaughter in the UK too.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/homicide_murder_and_manslaughter/#murder

Specifically:

quote:

..the crime of murder is committed, where a person:

  • of sound mind and discretion (i.e. sane);
  • unlawfully kills (i.e. not self-defence or other justified killing);
  • any reasonable creature (human being);
  • in being (born alive and breathing through its own lungs - Rance v Mid-Downs Health Authority (1991) 1 All ER 801 and AG Ref No 3 of 1994 (1997) 3 All ER 936;
  • under the Queen's Peace;
  • with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm (GBH).

As someone above kindly pointed out, I anal. But I'm still pretty certain that gunning the throttle of a high performance car and pointing it at someone counts as intent to cause grievous bodily harm. What I am NOT sure about is whether or not he actually gunned the throttle and aimed the car at the kid. I just can't quite get my head around why people are so quick to give the benefit of the doubt to someone with obvious mental issues when it comes to anger and reacting stupidly in situations like this.

Edit: On reading that page a bit more, it seems like in the UK Tony could get his sentence down to "Voluntary Manslaughter" if he claimed diminished responsibility, i.e.

quote:

"Abnormality of mental functioning means a state of mind so different from that of ordinary human beings that the reasonable person would term it abnormal."

Which isn't actually an unreasonable defense for a NASCAR driver...

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Aug 19, 2014

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


nsaP posted:

Yeah when people are quoting UK law it's done

This conventional wisdom bought to you by the people that gave you "ner ner" and "no backsies".

The discussion isn't exactly wildly off-topic or uncivil so you're probably fine with leaving the thread open. Though not much is going to be added to it until more information is released.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Aug 19, 2014

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


nsaP posted:

If you think quoting UK law about an accident that happened in New York is relevant I don't know what to tell you

I actually quoted the UK law at the person that specifically mentioned UK law. I think you're being a bit precious about it regardless, it's hardly thread-closingly irrelevant to highlight that Tony would be considered a murderer for doing what he did in most countries had it been a deliberate act.

e: You were also wrong.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Aug 21, 2014

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NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


e: nvm. I've no idea why your knickers are in a twist but there's obviously no arguing with you.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Aug 22, 2014

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