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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮


hell yeah! this is totally my poo poo

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A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!
i'm the ™ in the thread title, thanks radium

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I had a unicode ™ in the title originally but it told me to go back and fix it

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Silver Alicorn posted:

I had a unicode ™ in the title originally but it told me to go back and fix it

lol

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

Silver Alicorn posted:



hell yeah! this is totally my poo poo

OH HELL YA BABY

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I get really hot & bothered about MCUs

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
You HURD it hear first!

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

unironically owns

maybe

kinda

wish it was llvm

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
lol at not using clang. also gently caress code composer, it is garbage and gently caress TI, bunch of worthless motherfuckers.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
they have better documentation than STmicro :shrug:

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

avr supremacy

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

The Management posted:

lol at not using clang. also gently caress code composer, it is garbage and gently caress TI, bunch of worthless motherfuckers.


maniacdevnull posted:

avr supremacy

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

legit no reason to use msp430s. xmegas are lower power more useful and you get to use mothafuckin atmel studio which is based on the lord's own ide, visual studio

also its free

unlike the garbage rear end msp430 toolchains (except for the one in the op)

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
TI has personally hosed me enough times that I will take every opportunity to recommend against their lovely products forever.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

The Management posted:

TI has personally hosed me enough times that I will take every opportunity to recommend against their lovely products forever.

but what about the TI explorer?



it's a lisp machine! who wouldn't want to use it?

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
so what do you guys use these for

how many leds do you really need to blink

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

jony ive aces posted:

so what do you guys use these for

how many leds do you really need to blink

low power systems

so usually zero leds

also most other led blinkers can blink way more leds than an msp430

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

cool, an embedded thread

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

i thought i wanted to do embedded poo poo when i left college cuz i thought it'd be cool to program for tiny computers that do cool poo poo. now i just write for windows ce :suicide:

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

lol you use an os get more embedded pls

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

i just want a job where i update rgb led levels on an infinite loop all day, is that so much to ask

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
your mcu is a piece of poo poo !!

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I make the light blink faster depending on how much you rub the MCU

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Werthog 95 posted:

i thought i wanted to do embedded poo poo when i left college cuz i thought it'd be cool to program for tiny computers that do cool poo poo. now i just write for windows ce :suicide:

1000 hours of work to reduce the code size by 3 bytes so it fits in a chip that's 0.1 cent cheaper

repeat until you retire

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
sweet gig imo

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

eschaton posted:

but what about the TI explorer?



it's a lisp machine! who wouldn't want to use it?

im the USER AIDS

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Bloody posted:

legit no reason to use msp430s. xmegas are lower power more useful

the fram based msp430s are really nice for some applications (because fram >>> flash and fram >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eeprom). also some are actually cheaper to buy than a similarly sized standalone fram chip from ramtron/cypress

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
One guy designs the PCB, another guy is responsible for programming it.

Guess which of those two people has all of the say about what MCU goes on the board.

I've been fairly lucky so far in that regard but one of the other devices on this project (that I'm thankfully not responsible for) has its firmware written 100% in 8051 assembler, in tyool 2014.

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Mr Dog posted:

One guy designs the PCB, another guy is responsible for programming it.

Guess which of those two people has all of the say about what MCU goes on the board.

I've been fairly lucky so far in that regard but one of the other devices on this project (that I'm thankfully not responsible for) has its firmware written 100% in 8051 assembler, in tyool 2014.

;_;


on my current main project i've gotten to pick outright or be part of the discussion for the uc, the adc and the display driver. feels good man

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
the MSP430 launchpad thing has an 8051-compatible microcontroller on it to handle the usb<>uart/sbw interface

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
even for ultra low power things there has to be a better option than 8051 or msp430

they make some pretty low power Cortex-M0s these days

personally I find STM8 > AVR because at least STM8 has a unified 24-bit address space instead of having like three separate address spaces each accessed using different instructions

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
ground floor

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
i don't actually think the thread is going places but just in case, i want to say i helped

Blotto Skorzany
Nov 7, 2008

He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip
incidentally, has anyone here used clang on arm cortex-m or cortex-r?

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I don't think I've touched any micros for at least 6 months

I have my STM32F0-DISCOVERY stuck in a breadboard but I don't think it's wired to anything

been messing with raspberry pi though

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
microcontrollers and raspberries pi are need but I have no idea what I'd actually use one for.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I could probably write a lil program that reads the temperature sensor in my msp430 and sends it to my computer over usb or displays it on a screen, which would be vaguely useful

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
make beep boop noises with a speaker or piezo

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
for serious they are basically toys, unless you need to make a frontend for a voltmeter, or a custom input device for your pc, or a weather station, or any other serious solution you'd use a micro for

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Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Mr Dog posted:

One guy designs the PCB, another guy is responsible for programming it.

Guess which of those two people has all of the say about what MCU goes on the board.

I've been fairly lucky so far in that regard but one of the other devices on this project (that I'm thankfully not responsible for) has its firmware written 100% in 8051 assembler, in tyool 2014.

guess which one commits murder

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