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It's because the government want to make it look like they're doing something about Iraq and Syria
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If the government really wanted to scare people, it would make out to be protecting people from the imaginary threat of "tumblr fangirls," apparently.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:24
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DoctorWhat posted:From the Doctor Who World Tour Q&A in Rio: I love how Steven Moffat is the only one who gets it
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Aug 29, 2014 16:33
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The immediate Dalek episode is probably to shore up Capaldi as the Doctor. Tumblr boogiemen aside, this isn't an easy transition for kids.
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Aug 29, 2014 16:58
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Aug 29, 2014 17:16
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, it's the kind of uncanny valley thing. A collapsing human with a sheen of robot parts over them and a voice that's human somewhere at its base but is somehow off and unsettling, something they've just missed at for most of Doctor Who's run. Technophobia gets a bit silly when it's just reactionary "ahh new technology is scary! everybody's got hands-free phones!" As has been said, when you really consider certain implications of technology, as in Black Mirror, the horror gets so much closer. Bring back the sing-song voices IMO, but make them sound like dial-up internet. It's a statement innit
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Aug 29, 2014 17:17
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Radio Times official poster for the next episode. Hell yes.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:32
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But seriously, who actually thinks Daleks are scary?
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Aug 29, 2014 17:32
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HD DAD posted:Radio Times official poster for the next episode. Oh. OH. I didn't think about the title that hard until seeing that. That's pretty cool, actually.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:36
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Josh Lyman posted:But seriously, who actually thinks Daleks are scary? I like Davros as a character at least half of the time he's used, I think.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:37
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Josh Lyman posted:But seriously, who actually thinks Daleks are scary? Daleks CAN be menacing. They haven't been in a long time and it's easier to play them as a farce nowadays, but they can be. Best example? Genesis of the Daleks, nearly the last goddamn scene, that loving monologue. Especially with hindsight in full effect- the Doctor tries to put a spin on how far he set back the Daleks, never knowing he just kicked off a war that would burn the universe.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:41
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Josh Lyman posted:But seriously, who actually thinks Daleks are scary? they are badass as gently caress
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Aug 29, 2014 17:51
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The Daleks would be a hell of lot more scary if the nu Who writers would remember that their goal is the eradication of all other species, not just the Doctor and Earth. If they would actually present them as these alien menace that one day show up on your planet and begin to slaughter everybody without mercy I think they would legitimately scary. So basically, kind of how the Cybermen where used in Nightmare in Silver. But because they always ever just fight the Doctor and are thus only really able to kill a couple of supporting characters at best, you never really get a sense of the sheer scale of slaughter a Dalek attack would actually entail. e X fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Aug 29, 2014 17:52
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Josh Lyman posted:But seriously, who actually thinks Daleks are scary? Daleks are like angry dwarves with guns - very farcical, but still very dangerous. Bicyclops posted:I like Davros as a character at least half of the time he's used, I think. Davros was definitely one of the high points of the S4 finale.
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e X posted:The Daleks would be a hell of lot more scary if the nu Who writers would remember that their goal is the eradication of all other species, not just the Doctor and Earth. I'd really like them to play up this aspect of the Daleks. Especially because we know they aren't going to succeed at exterminating the Doctor/earth. Best Dalek moment in nu Who is their response to the cybermen's request for an alliance.
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Aug 29, 2014 17:55
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TheChad posted:Best Dalek moment in nu Who is their response to the cybermen's request for an alliance. Dalek/Cyberman trash-talk was the high point of nu Who in general.
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TheChad posted:
That whole scene comes off like Terrance Dicks snuck in and 'borrowed' RTD's computer for a few minutes. "Fuckin' Cybermen, I'll show Eric bleedin' Saward..."
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Aug 29, 2014 17:59
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e X posted:The Daleks would be a hell of lot more scary if the nu Who writers would remember that their goal is the eradication of all other species, not just the Doctor and Earth. You mean like the series one finale?
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Aug 29, 2014 18:01
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Gaz-L posted:Oh. OH. I didn't think about the title that hard until seeing that. That's pretty cool, actually. I thought they'd be going into the Dalek's head - its mindspace. Like that episode of Transformers Prime, instead of that episode of Transformers G1. But hey, we haven't had a miniaturization story (on TV) since The Invisible Enemy, if I'm not mistaken - so we're overdue. Speaking of The Invisible Enemy, Revenge of the Swarm from Big Finish turned out to be really really good. It's got Lightcycles and Jet Set Willy jokes and the Nucleus being a ham the size of a planet. And Sylvester turns in one of his best performances ever with Big Finish, partly because he's actually in the drat thing. Like, for 75% of the runtime! I was pleasantly surprised.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:03
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The Invisible Enemy of course turning out to be some kind of krill
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Invisible Enemy of course turning out to be some kind of krill It's less an invisible enemy and more a really shrimpy one. In Revenge they play up the Nucleus's inferiority/napoleon complex wonderfully. It's way better than Enemy.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:18
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e X posted:So basically, kind of how the Cybermen where used in Nightmare in Silver. Nightmare of the Daleks and the Asylum of the Cyberman would be way better episodes than what we got.
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Aug 29, 2014 18:20
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Next up on the "get around to watching DVDs of things I've watched the recons for" is THE ICE WARRRRIORSSSSSSSSSSS (which owns). Although the blurb says quote:While episodes Two and Three remain lost (search everywhere please - yes, even in there) which sounds really disgusting and I'm not sure I want anyone to find them now
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Aug 29, 2014 18:23
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MrL_JaKiri posted:which sounds really disgusting and I'm not sure I want anyone to find them now Look, if you have to search in Wales, YOU SEARCH IN WALES. So with the Doctor back up on the telly, I put my Big Finish listening on hold…mainly because the Divergent Universe burned me out. Is it bad that my hands are shaking a little bit when I look at my copy of The Juggernauts on my CD rack, thinking to myself “oh, a little Colin Baker and Bonnie Langford couldn’t hurt, just a wee nip…” CobiWann fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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Aug 29, 2014 18:29
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Dalek/Cyberman trash-talk was the high point of nu Who in general. This is old, but it's still all I'm going to think about if I ever watch that episode again: 
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bobkatt013 posted:You mean like the series one finale? I guess you mean that as a counterpoint to me, but the finale is actually a good example for what I mean. The Daleks return and invade ... a broadcasting satellite above Earth and kill a couple of supporting characters before they get defeated. I don't even think you need to show the Daleks attack, simply show the aftermath of an attack.
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e X posted:I guess you mean that as a counterpoint to me, but the finale is actually a good example for what I mean. The Daleks return and invade ... a broadcasting satellite above Earth and kill a couple of supporting characters before they get defeated. There is also the scene where they descend on earth and it sounds like they kill everyone.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:To be honest, I rather like this idea. It has legs. Times like this, I miss Tegan.
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I like the Daleks best, personally, when they're portrayed less as "scary in terms of raw military might" and more "scary because they're disgusting and pathetic". Then again, I like Daleks in Manhattan, so others may recoil from that barometer.
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I think that Asylum's reveal of Clara's fate wouldn't have been as great if all the Daleks were Cybermen instead. Being turned into a humanoid robot doesn't quite hit the same body horror peak as being turned into a limbless box on wheels.
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Android Blues posted:"scary because they're disgusting and pathetic" The show's gotten a lot of good mileage out of that, to be fair- Android Blues posted:Then again, I like Daleks in Manhattan, so others may recoil from that barometer.   (aside: I liked Asylum of the Daleks a hell of a lot more the second time around) e: Potsticker posted:I think that Asylum's reveal of Clara's fate wouldn't have been as great if all the Daleks were Cybermen instead. Being turned into a humanoid robot doesn't quite hit the same body horror peak as being turned into a limbless box on wheels. Poor Cybermen. They've got one good trick and the Daleks do it better than them. 
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Bringing back the Robomen and making them even creepier was great. Easily the best part of Asylum. Hopefully that sticks around.
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Potsticker posted:I think that Asylum's reveal of Clara's fate wouldn't have been as great if all the Daleks were Cybermen instead. Being turned into a humanoid robot doesn't quite hit the same body horror peak as being turned into a limbless box on wheels. Eh, to me they are basically interchangeable as head in a jar pseudo-robots with no emotions. They really should have kept more of the humanity of Cybermen to differentiate them as cyborgs rather than dubiously "is it just basically just a brain/set of lungs in a suit like that gross scene from the new Robocop, but they can't control their suits?" Also do the Cybermen actually need a human anything if they're just going to act like non-autonomous robots? They could be fully robots and it would make no difference to how they act.
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DoctorWhat posted:But hey, we haven't had a miniaturization story (on TV) since The Invisible Enemy, if I'm not mistaken - so we're overdue. I wish I could be like you and forget the filler sequences in The Armageddon Factor. The only moment I've ever enjoyed the cast being shrunken was in Planet of Giants when Hartnell realized he could start fires in a whole new way.   .On the other hand... 
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DoctorWhat posted:
Depends if you count Night Terrors as literally putting the characters in the dolls house in the cupboard I think.
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SiKboy posted:Depends if you count Night Terrors as literally putting the characters in the dolls house in the cupboard I think. No, Night Terrors is definitely a miniaturization story. No doubting that. I just generally don't count Night Terrors at all. I have frequently stated that I despise Night Terrors, and that I loathe it so completely mostly because I couldn't remember anything about it within five minutes of it ending. Of course, the usual internet-comic-exaggeration schtick applied. I remember the old lady falling into the trash bags; I remember Matt Smith making all the toys spin around and light up; I remember there was a dog in it, I think? But here's the deal: Even considering the above, and even considering that not two days ago I made a very public statement on my Tumblog that Night Terrors is my most-hated New Who story... I still, in all sincerity and honesty, completely forgot about it until just now.
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Wasn't Night Terrors a great story about how adopted children are "real" children of their adoptive parents? That's what I remember being the takeaway.
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I expected better from the man who namedropped Colin Baker to Lindalee. 
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