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If you don’t like Bojack The Horseman at it’s worse you don’t deserve it at it’s best.  
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AceOfFlames posted:The ending of The Good Place was loving perfect. This is correct. LividLiquid posted:Yeah, I ugly cried for half an hour and it was glorious. My spouse and I were physically unable to get up off the couch for like an hour, we kept trying to talk about it while sobbing.
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Sep 21, 2021 22:33
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PittTheElder posted:The The Good Place's ending was really good. Not even sure what there is to object to The ending itself was good but the last season leading up to it is by far the weakest part of the show.
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Sep 21, 2021 22:51
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the holy poopacy posted:The ending itself was good but the last season leading up to it is by far the weakest part of the show. I think it worked well except for those awkward episodes setting up the finale, it feels like they should've taken a bit longer to set that up or went with a different conclusion, but still, it was pretty good. If anything S3 is the one I found hard to finish, seemed like they were spinning their wheels there for a while.
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Sep 21, 2021 22:58
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Post 9-11 Windows posted:If you don’t like Bojack The Horseman at it’s worse you don’t deserve it at it’s best. 
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Sep 21, 2021 22:59
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Dias posted:I think it worked well except for those awkward episodes setting up the finale, it feels like they should've taken a bit longer to set that up or went with a different conclusion, but still, it was pretty good. If anything S3 is the one I found hard to finish, seemed like they were spinning their wheels there for a while. For me I think the show was mostly just a long, gradual decline from the peak of the S1 finale (which was incredible, so I mean, it still goes pretty strong for most of the rest of the run), only really substantially righting itself at the very end. But this is getting off topic; the point is, I don't think a show that starts out mediocre is somehow more likely to be good later than a show that's good from the start.
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Sep 21, 2021 23:42
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I don’t think The Good Place is a good example of “strong start, hard slump”, the pacing of that show was just relentless and it had a lot of great stuff throughout. Community is like the first show I think of for that whole concept.
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Sep 22, 2021 05:52
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Regalingualius posted:Though then you miss out on stuff like “get the gently caress out of my house” for context on why Herb’s funeral is especially awkward for Bojack Trust me, I get this. The Telescope and Downer Ending are two of my personal favorite episodes. SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I wasn't suggesting to skip the first few episodes, but that many people will need a disclaimer to push through them. I did. In 2014 I attempted to watch and turned off the first episode after about 10 minutes, deciding it was another low effort "edgy" adult sitcom and not worth my time. I didn't give it another shot until after season 2 premiered in 2015 and I was seeing lots of critical acclaim for it. I've also had to convince a few friends to keep watching, which they did and eventually did love the show. Yeah, like I'm not telling people "google a synopsis of S1" because I don't think it's good or important, I'm telling them this because I have been recommending this show to people who I know would like it for years, and a large majority don't make it past the first few episodes before deciding "meh, not for me". And in many cases, those same people picked up the show from S2E1 like I said, and then went back and watched S1 on their own accord once they realized how good the show is.  I usually link people to this image after they tell me "eh I watched a season of Bojack and didn't like it that much". Which again, I have heard plenty of times.
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Sep 22, 2021 05:59
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how do you go through the whole season, get to Downer Ending, and then decide the show isn't good? then again, if they just aren't enjoying it at least they gave it a shot
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Sep 22, 2021 07:22
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Murmur Twin posted:Trust me, I get this. The Telescope and Downer Ending are two of my personal favorite episodes. Those S1 reviews were also done off of 3-6 episodes (I forget how much they put in the advance screener, but it was no more than 6) and led to a lot of sites changing their policies of reviewing tv seasons.
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Sep 22, 2021 07:51
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Netflix and RBW didn’t want the reviews to come out and be like “this show is an adult cartoon about DEPRESSION AND ABUSE!” and honestly I still think that was the correct move. Letting that stuff slowly start to surface had way more of an impact on me as an early adopter than if I’d gone in knowing “oh hey this silly horse cartoon is about to subvert my expectations!”
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Sep 22, 2021 13:54
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Bust Rodd posted:Netflix and RBW didn’t want the reviews to come out and be like “this show is an adult cartoon about DEPRESSION AND ABUSE!” and honestly I still think that was the correct move. Letting that stuff slowly start to surface had way more of an impact on me as an early adopter than if I’d gone in knowing “oh hey this silly horse cartoon is about to subvert my expectations!” I definitely agree the slowly-surfacing is cool, but I for one started watching the show because I heard it was actually about serious stuff like depression and abuse 
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Sep 22, 2021 14:07
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Bifauxnen posted:I definitely agree the slowly-surfacing is cool, but I for one started watching the show because I heard it was actually about serious stuff like depression and abuse Well yeah, once all of Season 1 was out, Princess Caroline was fully out of the bag, and by Season 2 it was well in its way to be the established cultural phenomenon it was destined to be. Bojack isn’t just a great story, I think the show also functions as a perfect time capsule of the 2010s, precisely the same way it has those cutely specific time capsule episodes. It’ll be a real trip to rewatch the show in 2024.
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Sep 22, 2021 14:10
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I watched it all on release day so I had no idea what the hell I was in for. I had an email that there was a new show I might be interested in. I thought the premise was dumb but watched it because the cast was good, ended up liking it after episode 2 and then quickly ended up in full on  territory.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:28
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We also watched it when it first aired with no clue what we were in for. We just saw that it was animated and we like Will Arnett, Amy Sedaris, Paul F. Tompkins, etc. EDIT: Also, what the hell was winning the years that Bojack was denied?
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Sep 24, 2021 20:31
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Pope Corky the IX posted:We also watched it when it first aired with no clue what we were in for. We just saw that it was animated and we like Will Arnett, Amy Sedaris, Paul F. Tompkins, etc. I wasn't hooked by the first episode, but there was enough world building that made me want to give it a few more episodes, and then I stuck through till the end.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:41
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The first episode was definitely a “it has potential but eh” thing for me, but I gave it another few episodes to grab me because how often is the first episode of a comedy any good? Then episode two had Keith Olbermann say “that’s what happens when you steal a meal from Neal McBeal the Navy Seal” and I was losing it.
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Sep 24, 2021 21:11
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Pope Corky the IX posted:EDIT: Also, what the hell was winning the years that Bojack was denied? Assuming you mean the Emmy, there was the infamous time some random episode of The Simpsons inexplicably beat both "Free Churro" and "Come Along With Me" from Adventure Time for the Emmy. It's probably the Crash/Green Book of animation.
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Sep 24, 2021 21:13
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I’m an Arrested Development devotee and I’m 2014 I would watch absolutely anything with Will Arnett in it. I was immediately hooked.
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Sep 24, 2021 21:27
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I remember seeing the original promo poster for BoJack posted back in the day and everyone was like "WTF, this is going to be terrible!"
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Sep 24, 2021 21:43
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Iron Crowned posted:I remember seeing the original promo poster for BoJack posted back in the day and everyone was like "WTF, this is going to be terrible!" They (probably Netflix) were also very, very bad at marketing the show all the way up until season 4 or 5. Every trailer or teaser made it look like the worst of the worst edgy, crass adult animation.
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Sep 25, 2021 17:42
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Watched the first two episodes. I really like the opening. What a great way to introduce us to Bojack as a character. The TV host asking him what he's been up to in the last 18 years and him having no answer is a fantastic joke. Gotta say, though, it got hard to take his side for most of the rest of the episodes. He's just unpleasant. I can see why people would drop off the show. I understand that it's necessary to drive home the point "this guy really is that toxic" but still. Even so, there were some gems. I liked his little discourse to the navy seal at the end of episode 2. Princess Caroline and Todd were on point. Diane... Is it off to call her promising, considering I know she'll deliver on the promises already?
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Sep 27, 2021 06:51
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Diane is a really unique character and I can’t really think of another woman on TV who goes on this same kind of journey as her. She’s never perfect.
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Sep 27, 2021 12:59
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paradoxGentleman posted:Gotta say, though, it got hard to take his side for most of the rest of the episodes. I've got good news about your mental health
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Sep 27, 2021 14:43
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Sentient Data posted:I've got good news about your mental health one of my very favourite rainy afternoon activities is going back to the earlier seasons itt and reading the reactions. very much a mirror of a show, how people reacted was imo enormously revealing.
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Sep 27, 2021 14:52
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Sentient Data posted:I've got good news about your mental health Jesus, I wish you did. Part of the reason I was so into BH when I first found out about it is that I too was depressed, and it was good to see media that actually tackled that. I wish I had gotten ridden of this sickness already.
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Sep 28, 2021 06:10
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I think the early seasons of the show not trying to force onto a side regarding Bojack is one of its biggest strengths.
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Sep 28, 2021 10:14
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One thing that Bojack really nails is the way that your toxic personality can evolve and form itself over the course of years and years of surrounding yourself with enablers until eventually everyone in your life has a story of you taking advantage them and they are fed up and you have no one left to support you.
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Sep 28, 2021 11:01
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Great resolution for Diane's character to escape toxicity and political over-engagement by writing YA lit. Let the healing commence.
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Oct 7, 2021 18:16
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pospysyl posted:Great resolution for Diane's character to escape toxicity and political over-engagement by writing YA lit. Let the healing commence. I would definitely prefer to read “Ivy Tran, Food Court Detective” over her Bojack biography.
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Oct 7, 2021 18:46
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Yeah but I’m imagining the fights that Diane would get into with other YA authors on Twitter and she’d go so LA on their asses it wouldn’t even be fair.
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Oct 7, 2021 18:50
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pospysyl posted:Great resolution for Diane's character to escape toxicity and political over-engagement by writing YA lit. Let the healing commence. The end of her arc hit me like a ton of bricks. I too had a miserable childhood and latched onto the fantasy that I would one day change the world to cope with it. Unlike Diane, however, I still cannot let go. The realization that all your pain was for nothing is hard.
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Oct 7, 2021 19:40
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Took me four tries to watch episode four, simply because I keep expecting that tthe episode will show WAY too much of Todd's rock opera and it sounds so unpleasant to me. In the end I decided to skip it, and it turns out it's rather short. Ah well. In other news, it's so obvious how Bojack is pushing for this in hindsight. There's a lot of hints, a lot of stuff that I'm not sure I picked up on as "this is an hint that Bojack is sanbagging Todd" but I for sure picked up as "something's up with Bojack". Show good. Horse bad. e: Diane's ex-boyfriend with bowtie and close-minded attitude towards people's roles based on Mr. Peanutbutter's show's characters, also bad.
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Oct 14, 2021 20:37
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paradoxGentleman posted:e: Diane's ex-boyfriend with bowtie and close-minded attitude towards people's roles based on Mr. Peanutbutter's show's characters, also bad. That's such a Zelda thing to say
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Oct 14, 2021 21:51
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That Rock Opera is actually a very important event in Bojack's story
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Oct 14, 2021 22:33
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AceOfFlames posted:The end of her arc hit me like a ton of bricks. I too had a miserable childhood and latched onto the fantasy that I would one day change the world to cope with it. Unlike Diane, however, I still cannot let go. The realization that all your pain was for nothing is hard.
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Nov 22, 2021 21:58
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This seems worth a bump: https://twitter.com/RaphaelBW/status/1542151169300221958 Send Raphael Bob-Waksberg your proof of donation to an abortion fund, and go in the draw for one of 5 signed Bojack scripts!
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Jun 30, 2022 09:57
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Beating this horse of a thread back to life so we can talk about season 3 of Tuca and Bertie. It's three episodes into the new season and I'm enjoying it. A lot of good character development already.
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Jul 19, 2022 21:12
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Yes, Berties coworker is a virtuoso. Imagine if you could be the first to come up with such an idea!
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