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Narciss
Nov 29, 2004

by Cowcaster
Good question, and I tend to agree with the points you've made. This can be seen in other parts of society as well, like how the U.S. Welfare State has destroyed African-American families since the 1970s.

You can indeed become addicted to self-help, and these people behave similarly to the types who read workout/dieting magazines and jump from routine to routine without giving anything a real chance to work.

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Narciss
Nov 29, 2004

by Cowcaster

Anosmoman posted:

Could you elaborate on this? I thought the problem was the lack of a welfare state.

The changes LBJ made to things like food stamps made it a *very* unattractive prospect, financially speaking, to get married; single-parent families became subsidized.

http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/07/08/commentary-end-the-welfare-marriage-penalty/

This doesn't mean I necessarily endorse getting rid of the benefits, but we certainly shouldn't penalize stable families.

Narciss
Nov 29, 2004

by Cowcaster

poop device posted:

I forget, were you a bad troll or just an idiot? I'm associating a lot of bad things with your name, I just can't remember which way you went.

"Financially incentivizing single-parent families over 2-parent families is bad" should not be a sentence you see and go "ugh, loving trolls". I'm not even saying we need to cut benefits for single-parent families; we could raise benefits for 2-parent families. Anyways, this is a bit outside the scope of the thread.

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