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Davin Valkri posted:Heh? I've never heard that sentiment outside of Scientology. Where's that from? PeterWeller posted:How do you post on the internet from the middle of the last century? Americans, for a few decades now, are all too happy to eat up any sort of bullshit pop psychoanalysis that enters the public consciousness and are incredibly credulous when it comes to the curative powers of psychiatric medication. As a society, we are convinced a few sessions of therapy and the right prescription can solve any personal problems. The last American embarrassed by his trips to the therapist was Tony Soprano.
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MadScientistWorking posted:Basically psychologies gently caress ups in terms of massively loving around with society in a large scale manner are still relatively fresh and recent compared to other medical fields. Mental illness is stigmatized because we think you can just take some pills and get "fixed." I went too far when I said that Tony Soprano was the last person to be embarrassed by going to therapy, but most people are perfectly fine with therapy and psychiatric drugs as long as they don't need them themselves because they are "normal."
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PeterWeller posted:Mental illness is stigmatized because we think you can just take some pills and get "fixed." I went too far when I said that Tony Soprano was the last person to be embarrassed by going to therapy, but most people are perfectly fine with therapy and psychiatric drugs as long as they don't need them themselves because they are "normal." I think our difference in experience is a class thing. Maybe even a geographical one. Or both!
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Jon Joe posted:I think our difference in experience is a class thing. Very likely both. Where I'm from, it seems like everyone and their brother is on some form of anti-depressants. Because you know, being upper middle class white people in Southern California is a real downer.
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Sep 28, 2014 22:33
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Bucnasti posted:being in Southern California is a real downer.
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My career puts me in contact with a great diversity of people, but I'm willing to accept that my own biases color my perceptions, and I am middle class as middle class can be.  My career also involves reminding people to avoid the use of absolutes and generalities, especially when describing something as massive and diverse as people, so I'm willing to accept that I was being a bit of an rear end. 
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Sep 28, 2014 22:37
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Jon Joe posted:I think our difference in experience is a class thing.
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Bucnasti posted:Very likely both. Where I'm from, it seems like everyone and their brother is on some form of anti-depressants. Because you know, being upper middle class white people in Southern California is a real downer. Yeah, I live around lower middle class people in the midwest.
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Intervention time! Okay, you had the Free!...and you had the CLAMP...and I don't think we serve bara here, you'll have to talk to FewtureMD or Waffleman about that.
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Sep 28, 2014 22:44
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i should really get around to watching free
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Sep 28, 2014 22:48
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Tollymain posted:i should really get around to watching free
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Sep 28, 2014 22:52
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Davin Valkri posted:Intervention time! Toooooo anime for me. Thanks anyway!
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Tollymain posted:Basically I mean an intentional attempt to create a specifically defined society; the clones/AIs/carefully selected volunteers are optional, mainly the thought is "create a nondysfunctional society based on what we know of the sciences of psychology and sociology". I think the biggest problem you're going to run into with this is that the new society would still be something produced by the power structure of the old society. I'd say that the question of 'can a totally designed society not be horrible' is almost moot in the face of the question of how it'd be non-corruptly implemented in the first place.
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PeterWeller posted:Mental illness is stigmatized because we think you can just take some pills and get "fixed." I went too far when I said that Tony Soprano was the last person to be embarrassed by going to therapy, but most people are perfectly fine with therapy and psychiatric drugs as long as they don't need them themselves because they are "normal." In my experience you get a bunch of assholes trying to insinuate that you don't really need that medication, because obviously depression is just a character flaw and if you were stronger you wouldn't have to be taking a pill. And look, you have a great life, so what do you have to be depressed over? Just go out and have some fun! Besides, it's like, unnatural to put that in your body, man! Cave men/sustenance farmers didn't ever get depressed or need medication, somethingsomething Big Pharma!
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Spincut posted:Well, there's Plato's Republic if you don't mind the basis of your society revolving around a lie and the fact that no science went into it, just an old Greek dude going "This seems plausible." To be fair to Plato: How can any science go into it when that wasn't really a thing in Classical Greece at the time.
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Davin Valkri posted:Intervention time! Posting video is cheating! Anyhoo, here's the best I could scrounge up. Have some manliness!
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Gazetteer posted:In my experience you get a bunch of assholes trying to insinuate that you don't really need that medication, because obviously depression is just a character flaw and if you were stronger you wouldn't have to be taking a pill. And look, you have a great life, so what do you have to be depressed over? Just go out and have some fun! Besides, it's like, unnatural to put that in your body, man! Cave men/sustenance farmers didn't ever get depressed or need medication, somethingsomething Big Pharma! I don't see that so much anymore. I see a lot more "why don't you just eat your drugs and be normal?" This is from students at a community college. More broadly, I do think we are pretty smitten as a culture with psychology and many of us are all too happy to offer our diagnoses. You see it all over the news and tabloids as people opine on others' motivations.
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Hi my mother is a literal nurse who thinks that depression is something that you just tough through and that antidepressants will turn you into a different person and has sought to dissuade me from pursuing medication at every turn. The stigma against mental illnesses is alive and well even--maybe especially-- in people who should know better. Also I have tons of fun with this hobby and am trying to get a bunch of my friends together for a Monsterhearts one shot to expose them to the non-DnD and Shadowrun sides of it. Wish me luck or tell me how bad an idea this is, chat thread!
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All of humankind, no matter how wealthy or poor, was made to suffer because God and the Nature hates our very existence.
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I didn't mean to discount any perspectives with that post. I meant to merely explain my own.
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Raenir K. Artemi posted:Hi my mother is a literal nurse who thinks that depression is something that you just tough through and that antidepressants will turn you into a different person and has sought to dissuade me from pursuing medication at every turn. The stigma against mental illnesses is alive and well even--maybe especially-- in people who should know better. Good luck! MH can be a really fun game, although I imagine it might be a bit of a shock to come right into if your group's prior experience is all with crunchier, more traditional RPGs. Are you just going with the vanilla skins?
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good-ish idea, make sure they're well-informed on the nature of the game before anything else
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:All of humankind, no matter how wealthy or poor, was made to suffer because God and the Nature hates our very existence. Emptyquote.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:All of humankind, no matter how wealthy or poor, was made to suffer because God and the Nature hates our very existence. There is too much generalizing based on personal experience in this thread.
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Raenir K. Artemi posted:Hi my mother is a literal nurse who thinks that depression is something that you just tough through and that antidepressants will turn you into a different person and has sought to dissuade me from pursuing medication at every turn. The stigma against mental illnesses is alive and well even--maybe especially-- in people who should know better. Sounds like a blast! And if you want something a little different/less crunchy, Fiasco is super fun to play with a group.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:All of humankind, no matter how wealthy or poor, was made to suffer because God and the Nature hates our very existence. And that is why all the best campaigns end with a large pile of dead god corpses.
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ElegantFugue posted:And that is why all the best campaigns end with a large pile of dead god corpses. Shin Megami Tensei series, anybody? (Someone run one of those that doesn't crash out so early, pleaaaaaaase  )
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Why not run a campaign that starts with a large pile of dead god corpses and ends with the protagonists' home towns burning down?
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Davin Valkri posted:(Someone run one of those that doesn't crash out so early, pleaaaaaaase Very well.
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Gazetteer posted:Good luck! MH can be a really fun game, although I imagine it might be a bit of a shock to come right into if your group's prior experience is all with crunchier, more traditional RPGs. Are you just going with the vanilla skins? They haven't actually played anything before (except maybe two of them?), but they're people who have a tertiary knowledge of what Tabletop is and of course to them it's all dragons and cyberpunk and nothing else. And yeah, I'm probably just gonna print off 1 or 2 copies of all of the vanilla skins and have them each choose one, walk them through the character creation process and all that good stuff and then jump in! Probably print off some sheets of pogs and use one of the huge cutting mats in the ~spooky haunted art building~ on campus as a playmat. Hopefully it'll be a good stress relief for the weekend before midterms!
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ElegantFugue posted:And that is why all the best campaigns end with a large pile of dead god corpses. What if my game already began having a large pile of dead god corpses lying around in a broken Heaven?
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Both times I've played Monster Hearts it's been without really any kind of map and I haven't really felt the lack of it. There was character art for the NPCs though which was a good jumping off point for deciding what they were about and why we hated or were in love with them. Also oddly enough no sex either time, except for the post-script in the game which happened today where my faith-healer Reverent did some "lay on hands" with his sort-of apostle's girlfriend.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:All of humankind, no matter how wealthy or poor, was made to suffer because God and the Nature hates our very existence. Hail the awful god Sithrak! Not that it makes any difference!
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Sep 29, 2014 03:03
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nah, he was just pretty angry when he wrote that
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Sep 29, 2014 03:23
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Unfortunately I was referencing the Gnostic concept of the Demiurge, not a silly porn comic.
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I have most definitely, blatantly stolen some of the artifacts, creatures, and items from Oglaf to use in my games. Mostly non-sexy ones, but sometimes sexy ones.
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fukken a locksmiths?
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I mentioned it in the Level 99 thread, but it deserves repeating in here that Level99 and I are having a BattleCON design contest this month to design new arenas for everybody's favorite non-real time fighting game! It's also a great excuse to set up some new BattleCON matches, too.
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I want to run a game for Halloween. What system do you think would be best for playing a bunch of Frat Skeletons in the Steve Lichman universe?
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is there a fiasco variant that's got more "the hangover" type hijinks than the deadly type?
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