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If someones making an October thread right now I just want to say I throw my vote behind whoever had that "We're dressing up as Bellator all month for Halloween" suggestion.
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I think you should let vitor use any steroids he wants. Why worry about it so much? We all do things.
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Sep 30, 2014 20:50
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Nifft posted:Don't forget the UFC Gyms and the soon to open UFC Anti-aging clinics. Guy: Hi. Doctor: Don't train at AKA. Guy: OK, cool. [fin]
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Sep 30, 2014 20:54
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fatherdog posted:I'm not defending capital over labor, I'm being irritable because this discussion happens once every two months like clockwork and it's always somebody who has no idea about even the very basic known things about fighter pay saying "Fighter pay is too low, why don't they pay them more?" and having the various reasons that pay levels are where they are patiently explained to them. Add this to the OP DumbWhiteGuy Thanks duder
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Sep 30, 2014 20:56
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red19fire posted:Weidman is the best champion and dismantling Belfort piece by piece over 5 rounds would be an amazing spectacle worth paying for even on a garbage card. He should push for VADA testing for the fight, Vitor's like a walking ad for the necessity of stringent testing. Or an NSAC guy needs to follow him and take a sample every time Vitor takes a piss in the continental US. vitor's strength is/was his strength. He has absolutely none of the top flight technique Silva or Machida had to offer in his own favor. TheRationalRedditor fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 20:58
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Vitor probably won't make it to the fight and if he does he's going to juice anyways.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:07
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Duzzy Funlop posted:This is hilariously stupid, even by Vitor's standards. Weidman also pointed out that his injuries have only had him out for a few months. He wanted to fight late this year but all the cards are booked up and he's a draw and they're obviously gonna wait to build the card around him. Accusing "I'll move up and fight JBJ in week" Weidman for ducking or sitting out long on purpose is dumb. He's taken like 3 replacement fights or something like that and offered to do others.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:08
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TheRationalRedditor posted:vitor's strength is/was his strength. He has absolutely none of the top flight technique Silva or Machida had to offer in his own favor. What? Vitor's strength was speed. And he does have pretty good technique nowadays. His problem is that he has bad cardio and quits easy.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:09
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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I hope Weidman keeps talking smack but then just immediately takes Vitor down. And dances all over him like he's getting points for guard passes.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:11
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I seriously doubt Vitor has been tested once since the commission meeting. We would have heard about it by now.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:13
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kensei posted:Add this to the OP DumbWhiteGuy Thanks duder We've tossed around the idea of an MMA FAQ for a long time but it would require a lot of serious posting and effort and I don't know if we could collectively muster it. Also there are usually a lot of shows to distract people from such things, but next month honestly wouldn't be terrible if we did actually want to go for it. I can get behind it if you all can. I know we are all anxious to talk about how Fedor hangs out with racists.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:15
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Did I miss the fighter pay discussion? This is bullshit!
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Sep 30, 2014 21:25
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mewse posted:Did I miss the fighter pay discussion? This is bullshit! It's okay, just have a seat on the couch next, watch Fight for the Troops 2 again and have a beer. Pat Barry just absolutely wrecked Joey Beltran with leg kicks and read off the service number of his dead father from his dogtags before forgetting what he was gonna say and going "EY MAN, THIS IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD", making me forget that I'm not even american for a second. I miss Pat Barry and I love this dumb sport.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:39
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Intel&Sebastian posted:If someones making an October thread right now I just want to say I throw my vote behind whoever had that "We're dressing up as Bellator all month for Halloween" suggestion. You should all support this suggestion and the extremely clever nerd who originally made it
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Sep 30, 2014 21:41
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I liked "and augh dangit, people like me" as a thread title
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Sep 30, 2014 21:47
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Duzzy Funlop posted:It's okay, just have a seat on the couch next, watch Fight for the Troops 2 again and have a beer. I wish Pat Barry had Cain Velasquez's fighting ability 
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Sep 30, 2014 22:02
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Dangersim posted:What? Vitor's strength was speed. And he does have pretty good technique nowadays. His problem is that he has bad cardio and quits easy.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:05
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LobsterMobster posted:I wish Pat Barry had Cain Velasquez's fighting ability Then he wouldn't be nearly as funny.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:09
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its impossible to know if vitor's hand speed changes as the fight goes on because he's never thrown a punch after the 3:00 minute mark of a fight
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Sep 30, 2014 22:09
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I dunno man, dude said his strength wasn't his technique. I'd say rediculously quick, accurate strikes is a pretty technical thing. Dude might juice and die after the first round, but he knows how to fight.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:12
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Seltzer posted:Weidman also pointed out that his injuries have only had him out for a few months. He wanted to fight late this year but all the cards are booked up and he's a draw and they're obviously gonna wait to build the card around him. Accusing "I'll move up and fight JBJ in week" Weidman for ducking or sitting out long on purpose is dumb. He's taken like 3 replacement fights or something like that and offered to do others. Yeah, basically most of his road to the belt was made up of taking last minute replacement fights and being one of those guys that will fight whoever whenever so Vitor is just being dumb as usual. The only way he'll have Weidman's belt is begging for an interim title so I guess his strategy checks out. Looking forward to Vitor getting pounded into paste while we watch and laugh.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:18
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TheRationalRedditor posted:This disagreement is semantic. His explosive first round rushes are indicative of his willingness to sacrifice a ton of energy to gain a result based upon his blitzing striking power. I'd classify speed as an attribute of a fighter who is consistently fast in their movement, footwork & style and has the endurance to maintain it throughout a fight, like Machida or Mighty Mouse. If you wanna just make up your own definition of words you can, but I think if you asked people "What is Vitor Belfort's best attribute" they would tell you he's really fast, and I don't think anyone would say, he's really strong.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:19
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I want to see belfort blatantly give up his own back and weidman standing up in disgust instead of sinking the submission
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Sep 30, 2014 22:20
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Is Vitor the person that came closest to beating Jones? I know his fight with Gus was close, but Vitor's armbar was pretty legit from what I remember. Also, wasn't everybody riding the Belfort bus for that fight or was it just me? I hate being so alone in my MMA life. edit - swingin deafie doesn't count because that was dumb
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Sep 30, 2014 22:24
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Vitor is dangerous which is funny because he also crumbles after about 8 minutes of fighting. c.f. his fight vs. Sakuraba.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:26
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Depends on your definition of closest. The armbar was really tightand he was close to tapping Jones, but Vitor got steamrolled the rest of the fight. Gustaffson actually showed the skills to hang with him and lost a close decision, so I would say he was closest.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:27
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Ariza posted:Is Vitor the person that came closest to beating Jones? I know his fight with Gus was close, but Vitor's armbar was pretty legit from what I remember. Also, wasn't everybody riding the Belfort bus for that fight or was it just me? I hate being so alone in my MMA life. Lots of people ride the not-Jones train as Jones fights approach because he's insufferable and Vitor, while also technically insufferable, has turned the corner into hilarity.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:27
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Gregor Samsa posted:Lots of people ride the not-Jones train as Jones fights approach because he's insufferable and Vitor, while also technically insufferable, has turned the corner into hilarity. I bear no ill will towards Vitor and honestly could not care less if he was on steroids.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:28
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Ariza posted:Is Vitor the person that came closest to beating Jones? I know his fight with Gus was close, but Vitor's armbar was pretty legit from what I remember. Also, wasn't everybody riding the Belfort bus for that fight or was it just me? I hate being so alone in my MMA life. I think that designation should probably go to Gus, but he did have that armbar pretty well locked up and broke Jones' arm. Of course if we're going to count bone breaks that nearly ended fights then you gotta slot Sonnen in there too. Please do not tell me otherwise, tia.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:29
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Who is hated more definitely fluctuates back and forth between the specific circumstances of modern MMA's timeline and what odious thing has happened most recently. jones has certainly taken fewer PEDs than belfort, but he also gets his fingers into way more eyeballs. it's a crapSHOOT, brotherDangersim posted:If you wanna just make up your own definition of words you can, but I think if you asked people "What is Vitor Belfort's best attribute" they would tell you he's really fast, and I don't think anyone would say, he's really strong.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:32
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coconono posted:Then he wouldn't be nearly as funny. I just followed up with his fight on Cruz vs. Johnson and we were one supporting elbow away from Pat snatching the greatest slam-KO in (popularly covered and recited) MMA history from Rampage, and in this state of contemplation over all the great Barry-related things that could have been, I'm loathe to consider him funny.  Then again...mustard.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:34
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Vitor and Jones was cool because it featured Jones getting a fight against a middleweight, everyone expected Vitor to get picked up, thrown on his face and elbowed in under two minutes, but he did crazy poo poo like pull guard and came extremely close to pulling off a hail mary arm bar. It was cool to see a guy know he was going to get wrecked with ground and pound say gently caress it, and attack that way anyway because he had faith in his BJJ. It was all at once the best thing Vitor has ever done in the cage, a tribute to the beginnings of UFC and a rare show of courage from a dude to that point known primarily for crumbling mentally when over matched.
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Ariza posted:Is Vitor the person that came closest to beating Jones? I know his fight with Gus was close, but Vitor's armbar was pretty legit from what I remember. Also, wasn't everybody riding the Belfort bus for that fight or was it just me? I hate being so alone in my MMA life. It was Bonnar, Bonnar came the closest.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:41
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Dangersim posted:I bear no ill will towards Vitor and honestly could not care less if he was on steroids. I wouldn't say I bear ill will toward Vitor but I do think he is an idiot and says stupid poo poo on the regular. I find his steroid use more funny than outrageous and I don't think steroid use is a reason to hate a fighter. This is unlikely to endear me to PSP but on a personal level, I find his outspoken Christianity annoying and he has apparently said totally unsurprising but repugnant poo poo about gay people while training around SoCal.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:47
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Well, I guess there isn't much excitement for the Fight night card in Stockholm this coming weekend, even though I look forward to going despite the loss of TKZ. However the UFC put up a fairly neat little documentary about a few of the Swedish fighters that I thought was worth posting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLYe-gt2YGM Personally I most look forward to seeing how Bäckström preforms. He is easily the fighter most experts here Believe have the potential to become a really succesful fighter besides Gustafsson. It's also helps that he has tons of confidence and likes to run his mouth a lot. He's a bit like an autistic Northern Swedish version oc Conor Mcgregor.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:51
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Gregor Samsa posted:I wouldn't say I bear ill will toward Vitor but I do think he is an idiot and says stupid poo poo on the regular. I find his steroid use more funny than outrageous and I don't think steroid use is a reason to hate a fighter. This is unlikely to endear me to PSP but on a personal level, I find his outspoken Christianity annoying and he has apparently said totally unsurprising but repugnant poo poo about gay people while training around SoCal. I can accept this as leftover feelings from the Bisping fight.
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I'm actually pretty pumped for the main event this weekend, Gunnar is a really cool prospect and I think Rick Story is pretty much a perfect test for him at this point.
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Sep 30, 2014 23:05
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The Gunnar Nelson fight is cool and I look forward to it, but a great name like TKZ in the co main wouldn't have hurt. It also feels a Little as if a few of the opponents for the Swedish fighters on the card have been picked to give the hometown crowd some nice wins. But all in all I look forward to it. Hopefully it will be a fun card.
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Sep 30, 2014 23:10
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vainman posted:Although Zuffa could afford to spend more on salary, there is no pressure for them to do so. Economics 101. Lmao thanks dude
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Neil Magny is fighting at the end of the month. He's like Cerrone except terrible.
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