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Jippa posted:That seems too long. There's a whole thread for it, too.
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Renaissance Robot posted:From what I remember of the programming taster I had at 10, it's unlikely to be anything more complex than conditionals, loops, and rules. The reason to bother with electronics instead of just giving kids wooden blocks with ASM commands carved into them is because computers are just as cheap and also allow you to actually make things happen. That sounds like a great thing for ten year olds to be doing. Five year olds might be as well off with Duplo, though? Renaissance Robot posted:Please consider that this is almost entirely due to conditions at home (primarily caused by, you guessed it, inadequate state support) rather than kids being born stupider. Withholding education from poors for fear of overtaxing their dear wee untermensch brains is not a charitable act. Is that really directed at me? All I meant was that I find it hard to see how a teacher at a school like the one I went to that had class sizes of 30 odd kids is going to be able to cope with bringing kids who are so far behind up to speed with their social and communication skills while trying to teach others how to program and do fractions.
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Renaissance Robot posted:From what I remember of the programming taster I had at 10, it's unlikely to be anything more complex than conditionals, loops, and rules. The reason to bother with electronics instead of just giving kids wooden blocks with ASM commands carved into them is because computers are just as cheap and also allow you to actually make things happen. Five sounds far too young to do anything serious with computers, but you could probably do something with iPads that would show them the basics behind it. Of course that does depend on things like class size and resource availability. At least wooden blocks could be cheap.
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I think I'm beginning to see the interest for Brown Moses in what he does. Ive been following the Rotherham scandal and it is looking incredibly bad for the South Yorkshire Police, who have apparently ignored a chunk of reports exposing the massive issue of child abuse as far back as 2001. Anyway, the BBC had this article up when I woke up this morning: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29012571 quote:The researcher, who does not want to be named, told BBC Panorama the draft of her final report was sent to the Home Office and Rotherham Council on a Friday. Which is an interesting development. I had assumed that the researcher and Dr Heal were one and the same - with Dr Heal subsequently being hired by South Yorkshire Police to continue her drug-related research as had been exposed in the initial period. It now seems that there are at least *two* different researchers, Dr Angie Heal and this mystery researcher (I think I might have a line on where to find out who that is) who for the moment we'll call Researcher A. From paragraphs 10.19 & 10.20, we know that Dr Heal made at least two reports between 2002 and 2006, along with six monthly updates that were circulated to everyone important in the area - Police District Commanders, Superintendents, CID, numerous community outreach programs. These things were being sent out like massive incandescent beams from a lighthouse, but nothing was done. quote:10.19 In 2002, South Yorkshire Police and their partners appointed Dr Angie Heal, a South Yorkshire Police are probably shredding hundreds of documents as we speak. We now know that not only did they ignore (and try to censure) Dr Heal, but they also ignored the home office report from this unknown Researcher A. So thats at least three separate reports (ignoring the six monthly updates that Heal did) completely ignored, in the time period 2001-2006, all with heavy research behind them. BBC posted:That weekend, someone visited the offices of a youth organisation where she had been based, without permission. This fits with something the Telegraph had last week, where the offices of Risky Business were turned over soon after the report was made known. quote:In 2002 high profile personnel at Rotherham Council ordered a raid on Risky Business, Rotherham council’s specialist youth service, which offered one-to-one help and support to vulnerable teenage girls, ahead of the findings of a draft report, according to the Times. The NCA should be stepping in on this as a priority as it is looking more and more like a conspiracy to cover up wilfull ignorance by Rotherham council and the South Yorkshire Police. I'm now trying to find out the possible identity of Researcher A by trying to find the relevant Home Office reports, but its pretty difficult going at present. Do we have a Brown Moses bat signal?
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Zero Gravitas posted:I'm now trying to find out the possible identity of Researcher A by trying to find the relevant Home Office reports, but its pretty difficult going at present. Do we have a Brown Moses bat signal? Don't, if you expose this person they will be right royally hosed. They are more useful if they are able to stay anonymous and keep leaking.
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notaspy posted:Don't, if you expose this person they will be right royally hosed. They are more useful if they are able to stay anonymous and keep leaking. More for my own personal interest than pointing and shouting "This lady knows something!". This whole scandal is absolutely incredible. Plenty of people named in the report as being in senior positions of responsibility during this era of abuse and several in positions where they sure as hell would have received those reports, have gone on to much larger things according to Linkedin. I imagine a great number of them are getting increasingly nervous by the day.
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Chunk5 posted:The race politics behind that autistic victim story was quite interesting to see. The press painted the story to side with the victim. White friends saw it as murder, coloured friends sympathised with the attacker. The judge was lenient in this case and it did change my perspective on the judiciary as I thought they were out of touch. Why would it be "out of touch" for a judge to sentence harshly for a crime like this? I wasn't even aware of any racial controversy, but reading the story in the link above, it was an outrageous and premeditated confrontation: quote:Andrew Young, 40, who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome, became embroiled in an argument with Victor Ibitoye after he had told him that cycling on the pavement was dangerous. So basically some thug, who wasn't even involved in the original argument, just decided to go and deck a member of the public. The only reason being that he dared to point out, to somebody else that cycling on the pavement is dangerous. There's some basic law and order at stake here if you let behaviour like this slide, even if you believe the argument raised in defence that a racist slur was used. If he hadn't gone to pick a fight in the first place, none of it would have happened. I was unsurprised to see that he had previously been convicted of robbery and handling stolen goods and was on a suspended sentence at the time. I, for one, am glad he's safely behind bars.
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Kegluneq posted:Present this material in the form of a game and you're probably onto something. If you were learning to code aged 10 for the sheer joy of coding alone, you're probably autistic. (There's also an undercurrent of 'well, it was easy for me' in your post...) And gorki posted:That sounds like a great thing for ten year olds to be doing. Five year olds might be as well off with Duplo, though? You'd be surprised what five year olds are capable of these days, they can certainly manage to program floor turtles (or simulated floor turtles) with movement commands, and seeing the result of their programming and refining the programme to complete tasks is a good start for programming. Wooden blocks are for nursery and reception class children, at five they can, on average read, write and do all four basic operations in maths. gorki posted:Is that really directed at me? All I meant was that I find it hard to see how a teacher at a school like the one I went to that had class sizes of 30 odd kids is going to be able to cope with bringing kids who are so far behind up to speed with their social and communication skills while trying to teach others how to program and do fractions. Children going into reception class without potty training is extremely rare, this sort of issue does show up in nursery, but nursery staff will generally sort this out (and assist the parents as well) unless there is an underlying condition. As for teaching 30 kids and coping with children with social and communication problems, hello, autism, we deal with it everyday and unless you're arguing for an end to inclusive education then we will continue to deal with it, deaf, partially sighted, English as an additional language, behavioural and emotional problems and all the other special educational needs that we provide for alongside the "normal" children. The only time when it becomes a real problem is when parents refuse to have their children evaluated for special needs by educational psychologists which means the school doesn't get additional funding for things like one-to-one support or specialist equipment, or specialist intervention (like Speech and Language Therapy). Had this with a blatantly autistic child, the parents refused to give permission for an ed psych consultation, and so the child received none of the support he was in dire need of ( beyond what we, class teacher, TAs and me as a part time volunteer, could provide ourselves of our own back). Teachers are required to provide for the education of every child in a class, and to provide them with appropriately levelled work that allows them to make good or better progress. This means that every lesson will be tailored to several levels of ability (generally, SEN, Low Ability, Medium Ability and High Ability) this is called differentiation and it doesn't matter if a child is Einstein or is struggling with fingerpainting, you design your lessons around their needs so that they have objectives that are both challenging and achievable. For instance in a Y2 lesson maths lesson. SEN/Low: working on numbers adding up to twenty (called number bonds) Medium: adding double digit numbers with carrying, introduce column addition. High: adding double digit numbers, adding more than two numbers together, possibly some word problems involving addition. In a Y3 English lesson. SEN/Low: Design your own dragon, use some of the adjectives provided, fill in the gaps in the sentences, draw your dragon. Medium: Design your own dragon, use some of the adjectives provided, remember to use full sentences, full stops and capital letters. Draw your dragon. High: Design your own dragon, what adjectives would be appropriate for a dragon. Describe where you dragon lives and what they eat. Draw your dragon. There is a problem with the programming requirement, and that is funding and provision, school IT is decidedly spotty with some schools with barely enough desktops for one between two, and others with enough IPads for one each across two classes. The vultures in IT supply really screwed schools over the past two decades. HortonNash fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 13:19
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Yeah, I was definitely loving about with LOGO turtles when I was 5-7, and so were most of my class. I was also loving about with BASIC but I'm not sure how many got involved with that. (to be fair it was hard to get most kids off Granny's Garden)
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I was a bit bored last night so I turned the web version of Unfinished Business - The Politics of Class War from libcom into an ebook so I could read it on my kindle. I hope this isn't classed as  , I emailed it to Ian Bone and he's put it up on his blog, so I figured it was ok to share here too.mobi version epub version All I've done is tidy up the formatting a bit and add a table of contents/links. All the content remains untouched from the original.
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Sep 2, 2014 13:34
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Pork Pie Hat posted:I was a bit bored last night so I turned the web version of Unfinished Business - The Politics of Class War from libcom into an ebook so I could read it on my kindle. I hope this isn't classed as this might be good to post in the Marxism thread (and there I might criticize the argument presented)
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Zero Gravitas posted:I think I'm beginning to see the interest for Brown Moses in what he does. Ive been following the Rotherham scandal and it is looking incredibly bad for the South Yorkshire Police, who have apparently ignored a chunk of reports exposing the massive issue of child abuse as far back as 2001. That's interesting, I've forward it to the Brown Moses Superfriends so we can have a look at it together, might be worth doing some digging. [edit] Researcher A was on Today talking about this, saying how all their warnings were ignored http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p025wpl7 Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Sep 2, 2014 13:51
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Brown Moses posted:That's interesting, I've forward it to the Brown Moses Superfriends so we can have a look at it together, might be worth doing some digging. I can't see behind the Times paywall in the linked article, but when it says "senior council members ordered a raid", what does it mean exactly? Does that imply the police obtain a search warrant from a magistrate on suspicion of a crime, or is it some sort of council hit squad?
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Brown Moses posted:That's interesting, I've forward it to the Brown Moses Superfriends so we can have a look at it together, might be worth doing some digging. Well that interview is very interesting. I thought I had found the researcher but now I think I instead got to the "home office appointee" that this researcher is saying she was stitched up by. BM, I take it you have PM's?
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Sep 2, 2014 14:18
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Zero Gravitas posted:Well that interview is very interesting. I thought I had found the researcher but now I think I instead got to the "home office appointee" that this researcher is saying she was stitched up by. I do indeed.
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Sep 2, 2014 14:19
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Sep 2, 2014 14:21
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Lord Ashcroft has polled Clacton and got much the same result as the Survation poll; UKIP 56%, CON 24%, LAB 16%, LDEM 2%, Others 2% 
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twoot posted:Lord Ashcroft has polled Clacton and got much the same result as the Survation poll; Clacton was seen as the most UKIP of everywhere though wasn't it (i.e. a seaside town of non metropolitan aging residents 'concerned' about immigration that doesn't exist in their town), and with a well liked local MP they would always win it once he defected. Also, Clacton will be an excellent example of why UKIP won't succeed at the General Election; they have concentrated support in a few areas, but nothing broad enough to be significant.
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Sep 2, 2014 16:57
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Clacton was seen as the most UKIP of everywhere though wasn't it (i.e. a seaside town of non metropolitan aging residents 'concerned' about immigration that doesn't exist in their town), and with a well liked local MP they would always win it once he defected. Also, Clacton will be an excellent example of why UKIP won't succeed at the General Election; they have concentrated support in a few areas, but nothing broad enough to be significant. Concentrated support is good under our electoral system. If they had even levels of support everywhere they wouldn't be able to get any MPs. As it is, this is good news for them.
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Sep 2, 2014 17:01
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Zohar posted:Concentrated support is good under our electoral system. If they had even levels of support everywhere they wouldn't be able to get any MPs. As it is, this is good news for them. Depends what their aim is. If they want to be the Lib Dems then this is good, if they want to be the Conservatives then they've still got a gently caress of a long way to go. Papers already dragging out the old Liberals comparison are getting waaaaaay ahead of themselves. UKIP should be ecstatic if they manage to stabilise at any MPs at all, and aren't just a flash in the pan.
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Zohar posted:Concentrated support is good under our electoral system. If they had even levels of support everywhere they wouldn't be able to get any MPs. As it is, this is good news for them. I meant in terms of a bigger picture, sure they may get like, two MPs tops, but they don't have that level of support in enough places to ever be in a position of forming a coalition with the Tories. Should have made that clearer, my bad.
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Clacton was seen as the most UKIP of everywhere though wasn't it (i.e. a seaside town of non metropolitan aging residents 'concerned' about immigration that doesn't exist in their town) You forgot "poorly educated". Clacton is something like third highest in the UK for people who left school without qualifications.
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I just finished reading the In Plain Sight: The Life and Lies of Jimmy Saville and it's quite clear that there were numerous failings / coverups by at the very least a number of individuals in South Yorkshire Police over the years with regards his activities so it wouldn't be too surprising if there was ineptitude / corruption / involvement in other cases as well.
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This Ashya King case should be a textbook example for journalism students on how to keep a story going. Before arrest: Where is the sick little boy? His parents must be mad. How could the authorities let this happen? After arrest: This sick little boy has been separated from his parents. Shame on bungling bureaucrats and power-mad doctors.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:03
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Sad Rhino posted:This Ashya King case should be a textbook example for journalism students on how to keep a story going. I liked the BBC article comparing the snazzy proton-beam therapy with standard radiotherapy using "high energy X-rays". That's a masterclass in euphemisms right there. Edit: Ran this past my radiation technician housemate - They do use X-rays sometimes, and the distinction between x-ray and gamma is kinda fuzzy. Ah well, gave me a giggle over my breakfast at least. Strom Cuzewon fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I liked the BBC article comparing the snazzy proton-beam therapy with standard radiotherapy using "high energy X-rays". When I worked in clinical oncology research (radiation plus drugs) we had to constantly field questions from people who had done some Internet and found a treatment that was supposed to be a sure thing (boron neutron capture therapy and Gammaknife are the two that I remember as generating the most calls when I was in the field). Gammaknife is heavily promoted in the US because of the one-shot nature and the massive marketing effort by the manufacturers (watch any US medical drama and it turns up), the machines cost a fortune and are actually quite limited compared to the linear accelerators that we use in the UK (SCRT and IMRT are far more precise treatments and the machine upgrades are not nearly as expensive). The use of linacs over GK is horn out in the research, yet GK is marketed extremely heavily (we caught the manufacturer making Wikipedia edits on brain tumour, linac and GK pages), so when you go online looking for brain tumour info you get (or used to get) GK marketing material, and when you can't get it on the NHS you demand that the NHS pays for you to go get it at one of the two private facilities in the UK. I've been out of the field for four years so I don't know about this proton treatment, but I'm fairly confident that if we don't offer it here it's for a good reason, and not just cost/or the NHS being poo poo (we really aren't when it comes to radiotherapy). A good rule of thumb is if the radiotherapy treatment isn't offered at places like The Royal Marsden, UCLH or Queen Elizabeth Birmingham then either it's not as good as claimed or the evidence doesn't yet support it. HortonNash fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Yeah, even though the Wikipedia page is fairly pro-proton, it says that there hasn't been a single proper clinical trial on it.
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Kegluneq posted:Present this material in the form of a game and you're probably onto something. If you were learning to code aged 10 for the sheer joy of coding alone, you're probably autistic. (There's also an undercurrent of 'well, it was easy for me' in your post...) You heard it here first, thatcher made every boy in the 80s autistic.
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HortonNash posted:I've been out of the field for four years so I don't know about this proton treatment, but I'm fairly confident that if we don't offer it here it's for a good reason, and not just cost/or the NHS being poo poo (we really aren't when it comes to radiotherapy). e: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-us/cancer-news/news-report/manchester-and-london-proton-beam-therapy-units-confirmed Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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Praseodymi posted:Yeah, even though the Wikipedia page is fairly pro-proton, it says that there hasn't been a single proper clinical trial on it. Medical device manufacturers are shitbags, there's very little regulation compared to drugs, and the cost of the machines puts a massive incentive to promote the treatment despite lacking evidence, a US/private center will "invest" in the machine and then promote the poo poo out of it to recoup the cost, it's the same reason why there's so many MRI/Cat scanners in the US, they literally print money with them. Compared to stuff like SRS, SCRT and IMRT done with linacs which have volumes of clinical trial data supporting their use (not to mention can be used on a whole variety of tumour types and locations).
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Guavanaut posted:IIRC there are two high energy proton therapy machines due to come online in the UK, but they won't be treating patients until 2018. Evidence based decision or ridiculous political decision prompted by lobbying from "patient groups" and stakeholders? Presumably the £250m investment is needed to build new bunkers for the machines and the machines, planning systems and training to support them but where was the money taken from and how many patients will they be treating per year and how does the treatment compare to existing treatments? HortonNash fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Sep 2, 2014 |
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JFairfax posted:I just finished reading the In Plain Sight: The Life and Lies of Jimmy Saville and it's quite clear that there were numerous failings / coverups by at the very least a number of individuals in South Yorkshire Police over the years with regards his activities so it wouldn't be too surprising if there was ineptitude / corruption / involvement in other cases as well. Wasn't it West Yorkshire Police's job for that particular cover up? Gotta respect the proper jurisdiction.
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I know that NHS staff don't generally get into technical names of the equipment that they're going to use on you, but a linear accelerator sounds so sci-fi and amazing that were I ever in a situation that I needed that treatment, I hope they would tell me. Are you bombarded by a linear accelerator? That sounds even better.
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Prince John posted:Why would it be "out of touch" for a judge to sentence harshly for a crime like this? I wasn't even aware of any racial controversy, but reading the story in the link above, it was an outrageous and premeditated confrontation: For me, the race politics starts to come in when it's reported that it was an 'unprovoked' attack even when a racial slur was used. If anything, this is a key factor and it really does expose people's understanding (or lack thereof) of racism. It would be outrageous if the attacker threw a punch on the basis that the victim scolded someone for cycling on the pavement. I would disagree with you that "this was the only reason". Just before the punch, if you watch the lad with the bike, and the girl who was there and see how they reacted when the victim spoke. I'm inclined to believe that he said something outrageously racist. Casual racism + autism = unhappy endings. Racism just triggers something inside people turn defensive. Sometimes this manifests itself into physical violence. Given the age of the attacker, I can see why this happened. Whether or not you completely sympathise with victims of racism, or you think "they're just words, no need to get upset", I still hate the way the press painted the victim as a completely innocent man who was just trying to help by pointing out that you shouldn't ride on the pavement. The racism element, though acknowledged, does seem to be just brushed aside as if it didn't matter. If the victim had kept his mouth shut at that point, he wouldn't have gotten punched. (On further reading, it would seem that unintentional killing gets fairly lenient sentences, so perhaps I'll take back what I said about the judiciary and their awareness of race issues. Granted, we don't live in America's deep south where being black makes you guilty, despite what the tabloids will have you believe)
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Pork Pie Hat posted:I know that NHS staff don't generally get into technical names of the equipment that they're going to use on you, but a linear accelerator sounds so sci-fi and amazing that were I ever in a situation that I needed that treatment, I hope they would tell me. I prefer the laymans term for it; the straight line make-go-faster.
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Kegluneq posted:If you were learning to code aged 10 for the sheer joy of coding alone, you're probably autistic.
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As a healthcare professional, whenever I read in someone's notes that they (or their parents) have done research on their difficulties online, my heart sinks. Because you just know that they've skipped over NHS Choices and gone straight for the US websites run by parents of indigo babies or some poo poo.
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Pork Pie Hat posted:Are you bombarded by a linear accelerator? That sounds even better. Sounds like a euphemism for being shot.
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