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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Schlabbalabba posted:

Someone offer me a job so I can get out in April... I have so many SMART transcript credits...

Just remember that smart transcripts are not an accredited institution and are merely a suggestion. My college flat out won't accept them.

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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Nick Soapdish posted:

That's terrifying.

I clicked on this while alone in the student lounge at school. 10 seconds after I clicked on it, the lights went out.

Thanks, motion detectors.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

poopkitty posted:

But see, you work tho. I'm not going to once I retire. With a forever paycheck in Tx. I am going to GI Bill though because you would be dumb not to. Also I didn't give it to my kids because I earned it not them.

My thought process is that your kids will have a better overall quality of life if you use the GI bill and have a better paying job for 18 years.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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LingcodKilla posted:

IT reservist looking for security clearance and tri-care. Boy I sure do I hope I learn something besides how to fold a bed and jerk off "in secret" around 1000 teenage boys.

Anyways you guys getting out are cool. Be happy you at least accomplished something and you are now reaping the rewards. Also go smoke some weed or something.

Do you know if youre going to get assigned to an IT billet after graduation? None of the ITs at my NOSC are billeted as ITs. Ironically, a GM2 and a civilian GS-something are our IT support.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Nick Soapdish posted:

Are you talking about the full-time FTS guys at the NOSC because if that's so then I wouldn't be surprised it is some random rate guy and a GS providing NMCI support instead of an actual ITman.

Well, both. Our FTS IT guy is the GM and civilian.

All of the units based out of my NOSC are cargo handling, security, small boat maintenance, etc. As a result, all of the ITs I know that are not FTS are working outside of their rate. I imagine that if you live near a place like Ft Bragg, it'd be different.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
My CO put out today that we should expect to see this for cycle 1 fy15

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

buttplug posted:

This just doesn't pass the bullshit test. We can barely heard the cats for urinalysis every morning, how are they going to do a no-poo poo BCA every morning?

lol if you think worse ideas havent gone through. this is just a form of RIF

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
I just need 1.7 more years of cheap healthcare then you guys can require a 30 inch waist for all I care. Just let me keep that sweet, sweet Tricare for a few more months.............

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
just imagine being around that for 4-8 years

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Mr. Nice! posted:

You know a lot of lovely JOs. Then again, so do I.

most JO lovely JO

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
8 pin IC chip... 4 resistors, 2 LEDs, 1 electrolytic capacitor, two unidentifiable analog components...

I would wager that this is an Improvised Blinking LED Device. If the CO is saying it's a training aid, I'd assume that it's a handmade blinker for showing "FIRE!" that they made in their free time.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
Makes sense

That thing almost looks identical to what we make in lab all the time.

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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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is that some generic navy thing or something? because I know for drat sure it's not from a soldering class since the Navy doesnt teach that poo poo outside of Nawfuck

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Oh, I uh... guess I was wrong about it not being from soldering school.


ETMS is the only Navy school that would have benefited me in my new life and I was never allowed to go due to being a dirty EM

I ended up getting taught how to solder by someone that claims to have been top of his class at ETMS so there's that at least.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
It's mandatory shipmates.

Ok if you didn't buy tickets you're on duty tonight

Ok everyone that's not normally on duty can go home

Repeat for 4 years

Rx_dept.txt

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Ryand-Smith posted:

Question. I am looking at getting an online degree at University of North Dakota in Electrical engineering (No I am not Ket and going for Electrical Engineering Technology). The program is ABET accredited, but I am wondering if it would be worth it. TA would cover the expenses, ad it would be a 'real engineering' degree, but should I go for it, why or why not.

I do not know why you said that because I am a pure electrical engineering major. I work for a very well respected engineering company. Anyway...

I am quite familiar with the program you're talking about because I was talked out of it by an engineer friend of mine. It's not bad. It's just less than ideal and online degrees are, in general, suck for a number of reasons. I think anyone that sees North Dakota on your resume will know it's an online degree since I think it's the only online EE degree and you obviously never lived in North Dakota.

Ok, here is industry perception: It is completely up to the whims of the particular person you run into. In general, online engineering degrees are garbage. "They're getting better" is a common statement. My old manager simply said "no" and walked away when I asked him his opinion of them. I know other engineers that are doing their MS via an online VTC style program. They tend to think that they're ok and are less hesitant to hire someone. Then again, I know of an internal design contest that a major corporation held recently where one award category was "Most Likely To Have Been Designed By Someone With An Online Engineering Degree."

Why are they crappy? You get little instructor interaction. You don't get asked questions in class. You don't have pop-quizes. You don't get office hours to ask questions (and believe me, there are many). Some of them (not the one you're looking at) only do online, video-game style labs. Often, you take unproctored tests that people obviously cheat like crazy on. Because of that, people take online degrees less seriously.

Then again, I've interviewed at places where they were pretty open about degrees being "just a piece of paper." In general, you don't want to work at places like that. Most good jobs will have a GPA restriction. Generally, if you have <3.0, you will have a much harder time getting interviews at a "good" place.

To get hired as an engineer, here is the procedure:
1) Go to college.
2) Get good GPA.
3) EVERY summer, work as an intern at the best place you can. This will be impossible on active duty.
4) Senior year, accept a job offer from one of the places you interned at.
4a) If you didn't intern, post in the SA Engineering thread about how there are no jobs
4b) If your GPA is <2.5, post in the SA Engineering thread about how there are no jobs

Since I am all about nukes getting engineering degrees, let's look at what you should NOT take online:
-Any lab. Period. No, being a nuke doesn't mean you know anything about chemistry or physics. Engineers take calculus based physics which is completely different from algebra-based.
-Calculus of any type. Online colleges usually have unproctored, open note, open book, open everything tests where calculators are allowed. That means you don't learn poo poo.
-Differential equations of any type. Ditto. I have never been allowed to use a calculator in a math class. As a result, I'm pretty good at math!
-Circuit analysis. No, being an EM doesnt mean you know anything about circuit analysis. You'll blow through A-school after the first week of Circuits 1.
-Digital logic. No, being an EM doesn't mean you know anything about digital. You'll blow through A-school after the first week of Digital 1.
-Electronics. Ditto except first day. The only advantage 9 years of being a nuke EM gave me was that I already knew the definition and uses for "diode" before the professor said it.
-Signals and Systems. This is just too difficult to take without a professor to talk to daily. It is like some type of weird math voodoo.
-Electromagnetics. Ditto.
-Electrical engineering electives. These are often too difficult to take without daily office-hours visits.
-Design project (duh, groupwork)

I guess I'll mention that I'm going to do a semi-online masters program where you only travel to the school a few times per semester and VTC everything else. It's about 100 miles up the road from me and the only option for my area.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
Since my wife woke me up going to work and I'm now stuck on the couch with a hosed up foot, I'll ramble for a while about the college lifestyle.

Getting out and going to school on the GI bill is the way I would go. Knock out the classes that I didnt mention (history, english, economics, etc) and transfer to a regular school. Make sure you only take classes that you're sure will transfer. If you do that, you might be able to graduate in under 4 years -and- get to have really light courseloads.

Also, don't loving reenlist, you idiot. People think it's kind of cool that you were a technician in the Navy but no one really gives that much of a poo poo. Engineering companies are clogged with ex-military techs that can barely tie their own shoes. The resume benefits for an engineer of "I was a tech for 6 year" vs "I was a tech for 10 years" aren't really that significant beyond the management bullets. You aren't designing things. You aren't using CAD tools. Unless you went to work for the shipyard, you're not working on the same technology. Don't loving reenlist.

My current schedule is 8am-4pm Mon-Thurs. I'm taking 2 classes a day leaving 4-5 hours for lunch and homework. Since I took a poo poo ton of frontloaded classes, I'm able to only take 13 hours this semester which is awesome. Because of my schedule, I don't have to do homework at home and can easily go to every professor's office hours when I need to. For a given homework assignment in, say, signals and systems I will go to the S-S professor, my old differential equations professor, and my old circuit analysis professor. Knowing the calculus aspects cold and the circuit analysis background behind the problem really helps you out. Why does the convolution formula work? gently caress if I know, let's go talk to Dr Diffeq and see if he'll explain it. Why does this line of code in my project make MATLAB poo poo the bed? Let's talk to Dr X and then Dr Y and see what they say. I go to a small engineering school (60 45 30 28 27 people in my graduating class for EE) so we can get that one-on-one time with the professor. If you go somewhere big, don't expect that. That's the price of global name recognition.

Last year, I was at school from 7am until 5pm and then did homework from about 7pm until 11pm most days. Yeah, engineering students are nerds. I generally had to pull an all-nighter for projects once a week. It wasn't too bad. Circuit Analysis 2 was a bitch just because of the sheer volume of calculus that we had to learn to get through the class. I kind of enjoyed it though. Fall semester 2013 was comparatively cake. Freshman year was like taking a year long vacation in a yoga pant store. I barely had to do anything to pull a 4.0. I'm a junior now and there's only 1 girl that I ever see in any of my classes. I've been told junior year is the hardest one due to S-S and electromagnetics which is some vector calculus hell-on-earth class.

During the summers, I work for an engineering company as an intern. When I graduate, I'll switch to full time. I'm hoping to change departments next summer though so I can do a different aspect of engineering. It's pretty cool to have a job 1.5 years out from graduating... plus I get some benefits and pay during the semester which rocks. It's almost enough to make me resign from the Reserves but the healthcare only carries out 90 days. Oh well.

My office environment is a standard 8 hour workday in a cubicle answering emails and reading 3d models. Thing broke, write a procedure to fix it. System is slow, write a solution to make it work better. Technician needs a tool to accomplish something better, what can we build to make it easier? Some things are as complicated as changing the global network infrastructure and some things are as simple as a 3d printed doorstop thing to put on a piece of equipment to hold the access hatch open for work. You use random aspects of your education to accomplish this. I found myself randomly reciting a holy calculus integral of power distribution to figure out if a fuse should've blown or not one day. Another day my network engineering class suddenly became relevant for a few hours while going over a design for something that had to transmit using 802.11 wifi. Suddenly the intern was the only person in the room that really understood what a cabinet was doing on the inside because of an engineering elective I took as an easy A. It's strange.

Ok, I'm tired of rambling. PM me or something if you have specific questions you don't want to ask here.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Kawasaki Nun posted:

Just to dogpile I'm getting an extra 6k a year while pursuing my degree atop pell grants that I wouldn't be eligible for if I had finished my Thomas Edison degree.

gently caress that was such a bad idea. If I could disavow it, I would. Dat Pell grant moenys....

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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dear livejournal

being out of the navy (28 days out of the month) is still pretty cool

Had 2 hours of class today. Did some homework. Ate some pizza.

Worst part of my day was the college bookstore being closed when I went to grab a few things.

I found out that my school is going to offer a "Nuclear engineering for electrical engineers" course as a senior elective next semester that all of my friends want to take because OMG NUCLEAR. I need to take 4 more senior electives so I might grab that one since it's a survey-style course and I already know the fundamentals from being a grumpy nuke for a decade.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Schlabbalabba posted:

Ket, be proud of me, I applied for a job today. Command wants to deny my 1306 to go back to subs, so I'm considering getting out as an actual possibility. Hovercraft are ghey...

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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Schlabbalabba posted:

Someone explain the reserves to me...

TLDR you get assigned to some unit that may or may not have anything to do with anything you've ever been trained for.

you show up once a month to click through NKO courses and listen to GMTs. after that you hide or sleep in your car or muster constantly for uniform inspections depending on how cool your bosses are

you can keep tricare (downgrades to roughly Standard service) for 200$/month which is optional.

you will make about 225/month take home if what I remember about your service stats is still correct.

once a year you spend 2 weeks doing something that may or may not be related to what your unit does. it will range from doing field exercises with marines to picking up garbage on base to going underway to going to a navy school.

I was a nuke EM1 and now I think I'm billeted as a crane operator on cargo ships. I've never actually done it nor am I qualified to do it so I cant really remember. It's actually a fair gig for an otherwise underemployed college student. Show up, click through NKOs, do homework, go home, show up, sit through GMT, do homework, go home. Collect money.

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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Schlabbalabba posted:

So after Tricare is deducted, I make $25? Haha

Tricare is billed through Humana separately. It doesn't come out of your pay as you're paid within a week of drill or AT. You don't necessarily drill every month

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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Schlabbalabba posted:

So if I don't drill, I don't get paid? And do I have to cut a check each month to humana?

You're paid strictly by the number of hours you spend drilling. The biggest unit at my Reserve center does 4 musters per day to make sure that everyone is still there. I'm not exaggerating. Morning muster, pre-lunch, post-lunch, end-of-day.

You can set it up for direct withdrawal from your checking. If you miss a payment, they cut it off for the rest of the year.

krispykremessuck posted:

does the reserve tricare work like prime remote where you get to see real doctors or does it mean a trip to the local mtf every time? cuz maybe it's me but that's not really worth $200/mo then again my employer subsidizes a lot of my healthcare so w/e

It's whatever Tricare Standard is. I go to the MTF because it's right down the road from me. They cover most other specialist things it seems.

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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

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krispykremessuck posted:

so typical HMO + you'll be seen by a corpsman not anyone actually qualified to see someone. so in the real world for $200/mo you can probably get at least slightly better than that and have the bonus of continuity of care and not being told you're making poo poo up.

not trying to poo poo on the reserves specifically, but I wouldn't use tricare STANDARD as a selling point there, bud

I don't really think joining the Reserves for healthcare is a great idea. I did it because it'd pay better than any part time job I'd be able to hold as a full time student taking heavy-duty classes and my wife's workplace insurance is utter poo poo.

As soon as my job's insurance kicks in once I go fulltime after graduation, I'm resigning from the Reserves, woo.

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