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Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Tab8715 posted:

Interesting, however if the training is that poor. How come it appears that the separatists are winning against the Ukrainian Army

Because the VDV is actually pretty well trained, unlike a bunch of dipshit Russian neo-Nazis.

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Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
I remember someone in the last thread posting something a while ago about one of the players in Donbass being someone who had hosed around in the Baltics during the Soviet collapse. Anyone know what I'm thinking of? Cant remember the details.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

I believe that was him, cheers :D

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Giving Ukraine a load of AT stuff would probably be useful, given how the militants seem to love their mechanised assaults.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

StashAugustine posted:

Someone was digging through post histories on that one.

Probably archaeo or whatever his name is.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

SoggyBobcat posted:

Hasn't one of Slovakia or Hungary been generally pro-Russian? It's probably one of them.

Don't know about Slovakia but Orban is in Putin's pocket.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29108454

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Are you for real? This isn't the comment section on Liveleak.

Rinkles posted:

Pardon my ignorance, but what's "Snackbar"?

The takbir. Allahu Akbar.

Radio Prune fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 10, 2014

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Holy poo poo I was just reading that conspiracy woman's wiki article (obviously written by her insane self) :psyduck:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

eXXon posted:

How could Russia break an agreement it wasn't even a party to :psyduck:

From what I remember, there was some twitter buzz about an image of the agreement showing that the Russian observer didn't even sign it in the first place. Or was that a different agreement? Google isn't helping me here.

IIRC indeed the only person who didn't sign the agreement was the Russian delegate.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Someone linked this on Twitter

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/22/ukraine-european-union-trade-russia

quote:

The Kremlin aide added that the political and social cost of EU integration could also be high, and allowed for the possibility of separatist movements springing up in the Russian-speaking east and south of Ukraine. He suggested that if Ukraine signed the agreement, Russia would consider the bilateral treaty that delineates the countries' borders to be void.

"We don't want to use any kind of blackmail. This is a question for the Ukrainian people," said Glazyev. "But legally, signing this agreement about association with EU, the Ukrainian government violates the treaty on strategic partnership and friendship with Russia." When this happened, he said, Russia could no longer guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could possibly intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Moscow.

"Signing this treaty will lead to political and social unrest," said the Kremlin aide. "The living standard will decline dramatically … there will be chaos."

Published September 2013

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

eigenstate posted:

Starikov is a pseudo-historian, a neo-Stalinist, a monarchist, a conspiracy theorist, blogger and a big fan of Putin.

Sounds like a lot of Russian nationalists to me :shrug:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
It is clearly BS. But on the other hand; the occupied parts of Donbas are basically under military rule by foreign neo-Nazis and Fascists so you never can be too sure.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

kalstrams posted:

Could you translate it into some plebeian language?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
I'm amazed they've been able to hold the airport as long as they have. Quite something considering the circumstances.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8KqW3jXHs

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Nilbop posted:

What is this?

Oops, should have said. Russian's attacking Donetsk Airport.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

OddObserver posted:

White might actually be Russian regulars.

Yeah, I've heard several people suggesting those with white bands on their arms/legs are straight-up RF soldiers.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Weren't some LifeNews people busted smuggling MANPADS a few months back?

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/22/ukraine-european-union-trade-russia

quote:

The Kremlin aide added that the political and social cost of EU integration could also be high, and allowed for the possibility of separatist movements springing up in the Russian-speaking east and south of Ukraine. He suggested that if Ukraine signed the agreement, Russia would consider the bilateral treaty that delineates the countries' borders to be void.

"We don't want to use any kind of blackmail. This is a question for the Ukrainian people," said Glazyev. "But legally, signing this agreement about association with EU, the Ukrainian government violates the treaty on strategic partnership and friendship with Russia." When this happened, he said, Russia could no longer guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could possibly intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Moscow.

"Signing this treaty will lead to political and social unrest," said the Kremlin aide. "The living standard will decline dramatically … there will be chaos."

And then all these Russian ultranationalists appear out of nowhere.

:cmon:

This entire crisis would not exist if not for Russia's actions. If you say otherwise you are a ridiculously credulous and naive moron or a dishonest shill. There's no reason for any sensible, honest person to deny Russia's fascism-driven expansionism and its consequences in Ukraine.

Radio Prune fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Oct 18, 2014

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

sparatuvs posted:

Ukrainian BM-30 Smerchs Being fired today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTHSN1ESmrg

This level of bombardment seems to show a general end of the ceasefire for UA forces. Before this they took a much more passive role.

Explosion in Donetsk:


Aftermath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8AAMGPptrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNBj0RbxzOM

:stare:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Luhansk airport https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pfeu1ztU-to

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Debate & Discussion > Eastern Europe: Estado Homo

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Reminds me of the list of people who observed the Crimea vote :eyepop:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpMBH8NmG4

Seems like new video of MH17 to me.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

TeodorMorozov posted:

Can you find these cockroaches in Russian police HQ, like I found it in Ukrainian one?

They're too busy occupying Donbas :newlol:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Reminder that Putin is a geopolitical genius running rings around the West.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Enact more sanctions. Bar Russia from SWIFT.

Strike while the iron is hot :getin:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Someone should tell that guy about Generalplan Ost.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Phlegmish posted:

How the gently caress is he both a 'radical liberal' and a monarchist. He sounds like one of those suburban Internet teenagers trying to come up with a cool, unique political persona, except it's an actual politician.

It's like Russia's Stalin-worshipping neo-Tsarist Nazis.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

From a while ago but this is oddly catchy. No idea what the hell is going on in it though.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
LaRouche-ites :allears:

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

Forums Terrorist posted:

In San Francisco no less. :allears:

Anyway, earlier someone posted a song and another person wanted to know what was going on. Well, I found a version with subtitles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73eiLZ8k-QM

That was me. Thanks :D

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

my dad posted:

That one is just trippy.
NOM has some rather disturbing ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3fLcBCrhx4

Also love this one. Listened to it dozens of times in the last few days.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
This got a chuckle out of me and is pretty accurate https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/551218361578041346

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010

vegaji posted:

Thanks :) I included a shout out to our favorite thread poster in there.

You're Aric? :aaa: I've always liked your tweets when I see them. Been meaning to follow.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
Also what's all this noise about Batman?

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
That's what I was hearing, yeah. Anyone got more info on what happened (or the man himself, for those of us not up to speed)?

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Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
How do these people live with themselves trying to exculpate the killers of 300 innocent people with what they know are manufactured lies.

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