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All throughout this push by Russian forces on Mariupol and other parts of eastern Ukraine, you keep hearing "we didn't have any heavy weapons/tanks" from the retreating Ukrainian soldiers/volunteer battalions. Now that I'm following a couple different folks in Mariupol on Twitter, I'm hearing the same thing--and many seem to wondering where the UA armor/heavy weapons have gone. Are they simply not deployed in the area, and is the UA straight up just avoiding a fight? That's what it seems to be based on what I'm reading. I'm not casting any value judgment on that either way--obviously it seems smarter for light infantry with no ATGMs/RPGs/tanks to retreat in the face of armor rather than get cut down. However, right now the conflict seems to have mostly turned into Ukrainian volunteers/soldiers getting shelled at blockpost/city A, retreating to blockpost/city B, and repeating the cycle over and over, with most of the "action" consisting of both sides' columns of vehicles periodically getting lit the gently caress up by something.
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Majorian posted:To be fair, that is the grammatically correct way to say it in Russian. But yeah, I try to call Ukraine what most Ukrainians want their country to be called. No it isn't. There aren't any articles in the Russian language.
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Sep 5, 2014 17:41
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Majorian posted:No, but when using it with a preposition, it's "на Украине," ie: "on the Ukraine," which is to say "on the edge/frontier." It's not "in Ukraine." Interesting. I was not aware of the history behind using the "na" preposition vs. "v." Guess I read too many pro-Ukrainian articles eh?
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Sep 5, 2014 17:49
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Volkerball posted:Cross-posting from the ME thread. ISIS executed two Russians they claimed were FSB. It's just a Russian "Gorka" field uniform. You can buy them online. They're pretty common in Russia and post-Soviet states. Chechen/Caucasian fighters have been seen wearing them before.
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Jan 14, 2015 16:48
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kalstrams posted:It's AKMS, a fairly special piece of Kalashnikov designed specifically for VDV trrops. Though Ukrainians should plenty of those too, so if it's anything at all then just what you say, at most. Lol the AKMS isn't a "fairly special" Kalashnikov, it was produced in massive quantities and is one of the most common types of AK available. It's still in limited use in a ton of Russian, Ukrainian, and other former Soviet nations. I don't doubt that the SBU could've caught some Russian dude smuggling one of these into Eastern Ukraine or wherever else, just please don't present an AKMS as being a rare, indicative-of-spec-ops type of gun. This could be a picture from any American gunhaver's closet, too.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:13
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kalstrams posted:"Fairly special" in my books means "slightly special" which is sort of what I would find a reasonable description for a weapon that was designed specifically to be used by paratroopers. I did claim neither that Ukrainians do not have nor that it is not widely used. "Specifically designed for" != "how and where it's actually used" AKMS pattern rifles are prevalent in almost every third and second world conflict. You see tons of them in the Middle East, South America, Africa, and so on.
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Jan 28, 2015 17:20
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kalstrams posted:Exactly, that is my point, I meant "specifically designed for" not "used only by elite 666th straight guardian air family paratroopers of Putin's order". Would you mind not putting context your imaginary context between my lines? Holy gently caress dude, relax. You implied that that type of gun is some kind of special operator's piece (perhaps partly because you don't have the firmest grasp of the English language and didn't realize what you were saying), and I corrected you. I want Putin's folks out of Ukraine as much as the next red-blooded, freedom-loving American. I saw a potentially misleading comment in what you wrote and corrected it. People could've come to some strange conclusions about the image from what you said. Sorry to disrupt your RSS feed reposting. EDIT: Here's an Imgur gallery detailing the firearms spotted in Ukraine. The AKMS is very common. Apologies in advance, it was compiled by a very pro-Putin individual. http://imgur.com/a/oGmhi DrPop fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 17:33
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Holy loving poo poo, I just read all of their exchanges. gently caress Graham Phillips. I could understand why he spewed some of the bullshit he did at the start of the conflict, but this whole episode makes me think he's actually hosed in the head.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:26
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The official Russian Kremlin account on Instagram is a goldmine for learning about the nonsense and bigotry the Russian government is spewing to its people. This one's more funny than anything else  But gives you a good idea of what the Kremlin thinks are important things to focus on. Basically it says "Meet the minister OF HEALTH [!!!] of Belgium, Maggi de Blok." Please don't fat shame, Putin.
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Feb 6, 2015 16:31
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Doctor Malaver posted:Why do you think an Instagram account named "kremlin_russian" is officially connected with Russian government? Oh, am I wrong? I honestly could've been had, my grasp of Russian isn't perfect. It just seemed like the amount of work put into photos and text seemed so great for a non-official account.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:03
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The New Black posted:Haven't we already seen a little of this kind of thing? I seem to remember Vice featuring at least one American guy who was either born in Ukraine or of Ukrainian descent, fighting with one of the volunteer battalions. I also feel like someone said he was killed at some point. Yes, he was killed back in August during the fight for Ilovaisk. https://news.vice.com/article/the-only-american-fighting-for-ukraine-dies-in-battle
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Feb 9, 2015 16:13
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:
Those look like those babby airborne APCs, BMD-1s[?]. Wikipedia says Ukraine only had 61 or so in 2005. Did the LNR just get a nice new shipment from Papa Putin?
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Feb 9, 2015 23:27
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VICE's latest dispatch is from inside DNR-held Vulehirsk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCtzrLLWL0M It's been a while since I've seen VICE cover "the other side." It's interesting to hear the DNR/LNR perspectives on the conflict, and in particular the reports from the two different rebels of how many men they've lost from their units. If the Russians weren't helping out the separatists, how could the rebels ever hope to survive the kind of losses they're talking about? Are there any solid numbers that share how many actual Ukrainians are fighting in the ranks of the separatists? Also, that "captured tanker" looks terrified. I feel awful for him.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:19
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Rinkles posted:Haunting footage of what used to be the Donetsk airport. This is one of the most depressing dispatches they've put out since this conflict began.
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Feb 18, 2015 19:58
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New Vice dispatch is up. This one is from the perspective of the DNR frontlines east of Mariupol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bz9D8ZsuD4 Your "TFR is leaking" note for this video: the guy holding the PKM (machine gun) clearly has armor-piercing incendiary rounds (7BZ3) loaded in its belt. 7.62x54mmR API has a black and red tip. 
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Mar 3, 2015 21:56
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chitoryu12 posted:API rounds have been popular for a long time in the Soviet Union. The Kalashnikov had that ammo made for it practically from its existence, and today there are 9x21mm Gyurza rounds with API tips for pistols and submachine guns in modern Russia. I think incendiary rounds were also issued for the 7.62x25mm Tokarev submachine guns used in World War II. Yeah I wasn't really sure if they were prevalent or not in Ukrainian arsenals.
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Mar 3, 2015 22:41
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Guildencrantz posted:A lady soldier in uniform celebrating International Women's Day by saying she doesn't support emancipation and a woman's place is in the kitchen. Some people on reddit were saying that there was a pretty big translation error in what she was saying (translation errors are apparently endemic to the dispatches, as good as they are). This is what one said: someone posted:At 5:03 there was a major translation mistake:
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Mar 10, 2015 14:21
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Well, maybe it'll be interesting. I just don't see it changing the direction in the end. I'm probably wrong, but the main impression I get of Russia comes from watching what's happening in Ukraine and watching people like Teddy post here. The Caucasus are seriously their own world unto themselves. There's a reason why interior troops are conducting raids throughout the North Caucasus on a pretty drat regular basis.
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Mar 13, 2015 03:02
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Nintendo Kid posted:Slavs speak Slavic languages nearly all the time. And these are the Slavic languages: I know this is from a few pages back, but it reminded me of when I told a Greek nationalist that he probably had some Slav (and maybe even Turk!!!!) blood in him one way or another, and it took him less than two seconds to threaten me with death
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Apr 29, 2015 16:03
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OddObserver posted:Can nnyone here comment on the gun? As others have stated it's a Vintorez. To get into "special" semantics that led to the current thread's title—that's the kind of gun that points more to solid Russian involvement/issue/backing than your bog-standard AKMS. Though it's possible some got left in Ukraine after the fall of the USSR or was otherwise brought into the country, they're a very rare sight outside of specialized Russian Federation forces.
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May 18, 2015 17:09
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That Babylon 13 channel released a video called "Three days at the Donetsk Airport," presumably filmed sometime in the fall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiZ7FjQxGGI
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May 27, 2015 21:17
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This is purported to be a video of separatists advancing toward Ukrainian positions somewhere in Lugansk Oblast. Some are saying it's from a while back. In any case, it seems that the separatists (from whose viewpoint this is recorded) stumble into a Ukrainian tank around 3:52, miss it a bunch, it pops smoke, adjusts, and then starts blowing up the separatist BTRs. Warning: probable death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N0rplcH32g Can anyone more reliably translate what the dudes are saying in the vid? All I can make it is pretty much "Tank!" "Straight!" "Stop!" and "Left!" DrPop fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 17:06
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Baronjutter posted:Did they almost friendly-fire their own BTR at 5:00 ? Seems like it, given that the one dude is yelling at someone to stop doing whatever
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BREAKING https://instagram.com/p/9HJKXkCRpU/
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