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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Heran Bago posted:

Any Dragon Quest game. 4x experience and gold.

So you want to me overleveled for some reason rather then just play the game why

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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Silver Striker posted:

i agree, if you need 4x exp and gold in a DQ game you are an extreme failtard. this is this notion that dragon quest games are extremely grindy and i don't really know where it came from because if you actually play the game they're generally not very hard. like all you do is mostly pick attack and use items (including the item they give you in basically every loving game that gives you a free midheal)

People are very bad at video games.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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jrpgs own

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Kilroy posted:

no I mean the only jrpgs that are worth a drat are the ones you played when you were eleven, regardless of whether you were eleven in 1991 or 2008, because only an eleven year old could find them enjoyable and the only thing that could make them hold up for anyone else is nostalgia

so, for example, I might find it easy to run through ffiv even now, while ffvi and chrono trigger are less compelling and smrpg is about as fun as taking a cheese grater to my balls, because by the time those came out I was old enough to realize the story was pretty hokey and the combat mechanics are shallow and boring

whereas, you are apoplectic that I would dare insult the honor of those games, while ffiv you've heard of and maybe even tried playing through once or twice, but figure it was made before square learned how to make really good jrpgs, which again, is a contradiction in terms - square never learned how to do this and neither has anyone else

meanwhile, there is a college student reading this wondering why the gently caress anyone cares about 20+ year old games when clearly ff12 was the apex of the genre

in other words:

Tl:dr :yosbutt:

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Gimbal lock posted:

So basically, you're saying that FF6, CT, MarioRPG, Earthbound, etc, are not popular because of the nature of the products, but rather because of the nature of its consumers.
Does this apply to movies too? As in, would an 11 year old generally prefer the new Star Wars movies vs the old ones, figuring that those were made before Lucas figured out how to make decent flicks or something? If the example doesn't work, what is the difference that makes this phenomenon unique to video games?

What's to be said about counter-examples where other game genres had their critically acclaimed darlings in seemingly different time periods, much like Guitar Hero and its ilk? The general consensus seem to be that music games were at their best during the late PS2 / early PS3 era; Is that also not due to the nature of the products?

you're putting too much thought into a guy making a really lost post that basically says that only dumb babies like games he doesn't like

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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Kilroy posted:

If you were eleven when those games were released then it's totally fine if you think they're the best thing ever. Otherwise, I'm sorry to inform you, you have wrong opinions about games :(

hurrr drrrrrr look if you like games i don't like your a dumb stupid baby

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