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KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

We're going to stop making new threads!

To commemorate this, a new thread!

(Sorry Trin, it made me laugh.)

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KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Wait, did Moffat just reinvent the Silence? :geno:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Seriously, enough with the Doctor pissing on Clara please.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Chucat posted:

I have a deskbed I can't identify with any of this. :(

Mine was on stilts. I knew what was under there: mostly books.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

AWESOME PINK :haw:

e: This episode is structurally bizarre.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

As horror, this isn't working for me. But even so, I am liking it a lot more than last episode.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Ragnarak posted:

What just happened?

Doctor imagined a monster out of nothing; turned out to have been a monster imagined out of nothing.

So I guess it really was a kid under the bedspread.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

So wait, if the barn was attached to an orphanage, where was the orphanage when the War Doctor turned up?

And why the hell did they build an orphanage in the middle of the desert?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

If the Doctor was raised in an orphanage, where does the House of Lungbarrow fit in? :can:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

DoctorWhat posted:

Who said it was an orphanage? [/virginnewadventures]

Jerusalem posted:

Re: the "orphanage". Unless I missed a specific bit of dialogue, everything was left vague enough that it could have been anything really. Maybe those were his parents (or an Aunt and Uncle) and "the other boys" were siblings (or cousins). Maybe he was staying at some kind of camp. Maybe it was a Gallifreyan boarding school. Maybe it WAS an orphanage: the obvious parallels are there between him and young Rupert's situation.

I could have sworn blind they said something explicit. :shrug:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

DoctorWhat posted:

The BBC EDAs are distressingly uneven and the Doctor's characterization is repeatedly infringed upon by amnesia subplots and other sillyness.

That said, anything by Kate Orman or Lawrence Miles is gonna be at leasf READABLE, and oftsn brilliant.

You mentioning her has jogged my memory. Is it just me or is the plot of Time of the Doctor lifted straight from Unnatural History? Only with all the interesting bits removed.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

He doesn't look human, we look Time-Lord.

Gallifreyan. :colbert:

(I've always liked to think of Gallifrey as a dream of Edwardian Britain, in the same way that the Daleks are a dream of the Nazis, so the Time Lords-as-braying-toffs/the Academy-as-Oxbridge/Eton angle appeals to me.)

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Jerusalem posted:

I know this isn't what you mean AT ALL, but I'm tickled pink at the idea of the top item on the agenda post-independence being negotiating an agreement for the continued use of Peter Capaldi in Doctor Who :3:

Pfft. He'll be the only leverage Big Eck has.

We'll charge you rent on the accent.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Why am I watching some goddamn game show instead of Who. Who decided to poison my eyes with this filth?!

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Very dapper in that suit, Coleman.

e: Woman in shop = Missy?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

I wasn't really looking forward to this one, but it's got a good pace going if nothing else.

e: briefing by crappy youtube video. Spoke too soon. :sigh:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

This is. Really not very Who. Tone-wise, I mean.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

thexerox123 posted:

Since when does Who have a consistent tone?

:shrug:

Eh. It has a broad-ranging tone, but I think this is outside that range. It's compellingly novel, at least.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Kin posted:

So is this a human bank? It seems very human for a bank that only holds money for solar system owning types.

It seemed even more human when everyone went "*gasp* something alien" in a bank known as the "Greatest bank in the Galaxy".

Would it kill them to, you know, have a few more aliens in it, maybe looking a bit more like, you know, aliens?

Welcome to Doctor Who. :geno:

Kin posted:

Hell, Farscape had ridiculous levels of puppetry and animatronics on alien characters that were only used in one episode.

They had a partnership with the Jim Henson company, mind.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Oh yeah I didn't see that one coming. :geno:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnope, didn't like it.

Felt very thing and rushed in places, and basically every single last emotional beat was entirely unearned. Far from the worst episode, and probably better than Deep Breath/Robots of Sherwood, but as far as I'm concerned this was empty filler.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

DoctorWhat posted:

presented without comment, except that i read that thread with rapt attention

"The Time Traveller's Wife"

he's loving with us, he's got to be

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Oh, it looks like the show's on late tonight (20:30). And Peter Capaldi was on the Graham Norton Show last night, apparently.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

"It's assembly! Go worship something."

That shouldn't have made me laugh nearly as much as it did.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Do police actually give a gently caress about kids being out of school south of the border?

e: :stare: That's a bit gory

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

It's all gone a bit James Bond.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

NOT ALL ROBOTS NEED TO SPEAK LIKE DALEKS

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Oh Clara.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Missy being part of an organisation makes her infinitely more interesting to me.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

I think that was a fairly solid episode? I feel agreeable but not feverish with fanglee.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Payndz posted:

This episode had some (mildly) amusing moments, but it's cemented something that's been developing all season: the show's become The Misadventures Of Clara rather than Doctor Who. This week, Clara has a big date with her hunky co-worker, but her wacky time-travelling neighbour space dad friend throws a spanner in the works once again! That crazy Kramer Doctor, what will he get up to next?

Matt Smith's stories often had sitcom-esque scenes, sometimes to excess, but this year's gone all-out with it and it's getting tiresome. The Doctor's seemed less like the hero of his own show than the zany comic relief.

So we've gone from "Clara isn't getting enough characterisation" to "CLARA IS GETTING ALL THE CHARACTERISATION :byodood:"

I'm calling this a victory.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Glenn_Beckett posted:

Okay, seriously, how are we not all going monkey brain insane over Chris Addison?

I literally did not realise that was Ollie Reed until the AV Club pointed it out. He looks and acts like a completely different person!

Now I am going monkey brain insane over Chris Addison.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

We're on.

e: Oh hey look, yet another threat to the entire Earth/human race. :effort:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Jerusalem posted:

I really can't stand this character :sigh:

That was some pretty atrocious acting right there.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

So, because I am a giant nerd, I ran the numbers and, unless I hosed this up, for the moon to have a surface gravity the same as Earth's, the Moon would have to increase its mass by a factor of almost exactly six.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

I think I like this episode.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Yvonmukluk posted:

When the Doctor does a holographic display of the thing, did it look like a dragon to anyone else?

I was thinking Beholder. Mostly because it was rolled up in a ball, I guess :v:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Alright, they lost me with the egg laying

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Sighence posted:

Welp, Capaldi and Coleman still sell it, at least. Which one of the usual suspects is responsible for this... scrambled mess of a plotline?

Peter Harness. I don't think he's written for the show before.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Jerusalem posted:

Edit: Case in point, the scene where the planet turns out all the lights to vote for the destruction of the moon. That scene should have been amazing and full of despair and or agonizing on the parts of the audience POV characters watching. Instead it was just.... there.

I hardly think it's fair to pin that on Harness, that was 100% the director's fault.

Actually, after some reflection I think I'm going to lay all the blame for this at his (Paul Wilmshurst) door. Him and Courtney's actress (a good child actor is a rare and wonderful thing, sadly). There's a version of this episode out there where the first forty minutes of so are a capable but not spectacular romp with a nice quirky sci-fi premise and some good solid pathos, before the last five minutes suddenly flip everything upside down and you see the cleverly hidden thematic through-line that brings everything together. That potential, which I think is definitely there in the script, was hamstrung by acting that couldn't sell the emotional beats and directing that couldn't land that final reversal.

I think I'd still give it a B-grade, though, it's not Deep Breath.

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KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/10/kill-moon-review.html

quote:

This was the single best episode of Doctor Who ever.

Oh, Sandifer :allears:

KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Oct 4, 2014

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