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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

I want a few more USB ports. Should I just buy a USB 3.0 hub or a PCI card? Pros/cons to either? Recommendations?

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

fishmech posted:

Buying a USB 3.0 PCI Express card is probably a better idea if you have room rather than slapping another hub on your existing 3.0 ports. Less liklihood of getting something that is flaky that way.

Any recommendations?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

I have digital photos from the late early 00s residing on an equally ancient HDD that I know is playing with fire.

What's the best media to use for long term archiving? I realize hardware standards change and who knows if something today will even be around/legacy supported in 2030 but I'd appreciate best guesses right now. I'm also a little leery of online hosting because who really knows if even Amazon will be here 20 years from now and if they do what their terms of use will be.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Thanks guys appreciate the ideas and will do some more digging.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Mrs. Slidebite and I are getting a safety deposit box at the bank and I want to make another backup of important stuff (photos, documents) and stick in there as well. This will be in addition to the stuff I have at home on my HDD.

Is an SD card pretty safe for copying everything on an leaving it for potentially years? Should I maybe go to an SSD? I am presuming a mechanical HDD is not.

I know from a question earlier we were talking about tape and stuff but I am just looking for a reasonable bit of redundancy for not a crazy amount of $$. Probably about 500GB to 1TB in total.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Yeah, the M-Disc was mentioned earlier too. Maybe I'll by a few of those to try out. Thanks.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Are there any motherboards available online, prefer new, suitable for Sandy bridge/2500k? Preferebly avail in :canada: for next to nothing? My looking on Amazon for P67/H67 isn't turning up much. Nothing fancy, in fact the more basic the better. Won't be overclocked.

I want to resurrect an old P67 with a flaky mobo (onboard sound/microphone kept going on/off on their own multiple times a second) but everything else on it seemed fine. Have a decent PS, DDR3, CPU, cooler, hell even a GTX780, just an appropriate motherboard and IO I'm missing. Not fussy on form factor, it's in a huge ATX case.

e: Does H61 support 2500k? I think it might? If so there may be a few choices
ee: Looks like there are quite a few chipsets... sorry been many years since I gave sandybridge even a thought
https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i5/i5-2500.html

slidebite fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 22, 2022

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Yeah, kind of discovering that.

I don't really need the computer as we have 4 in the house, but I could do something with it... maybe have life with my father in law that had his old circa 2007 thing die.

I did find a chinese no-name on Amazon
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B09H75B1KJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AAEAGYFC0R5V9&psc=1

might do the trick. I'd rather a ship-by amazon due to returning if it's junk.. but it looks like crap like this might be around.

Appreciate the thoughts.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

JnnyThndrs posted:

Could you disable the onboard audio in the BIOS on your old motherboard and use a $10 USB sound card instead? That’s the direction I’d go if I could.

A 2500K is a much better processor run at 4.3 or so on a P67/Z68/Z77 board rather than be stuck at 3.5 or whatever on a cheap non-OC mobo.
It's actually the microphone port, and I tried to disable it in device manager and it keeps trying to "refresh" if that makes sense. Kind of like the autodetect sensing something every second. There is nothing just for just it in BIOS but I suspect it will be tied into the general HD Audio setting which is there. I think I did try disabling it during my trouble shooting, but to be honest I don't remember. Not keen on buying a sound card but really, that's not a bad idea. Certainly would be cheaper/easier than re-buiilding the PC I suppose. Everything else on it does work fine.

Actually, it does have a GTX780 on it, does the card have an audio processor on it? Her monitor doesn't have HDMI though... so that's another problem. The USB/cheapo sound might be the way to go. I'll investigate that a bit. I already ordered the AIO PC for her as a replacement, but it wouldn't be bad to have ready to go for ~reasons~

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Yeah that was one of the first things I tried once I realized it seemed to be related to the mic. I tried that... was trick to do as it kept "refreshing".. that along with her audio not working. It's almost like a intermittent "short" on the motherboard thinking someone is continually plugging something in... I still think I did try the BIOS before but now I'm second guessing myself. I'll try that today.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

I never tried a driver roll-back or see if there was a semi-recent update that might have done something. That's a good idea. Not sure how long it was doing this as Mrs. Slidebite only noticed when she went to play Zuma the other day.

It's an old MSI P67-G43 (I think?) and it's been pretty good until recently, if dated.

I did try the physical plugs repeatedly, no beuno.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Oh I can absolutely disable the audio in BIOS, that's no problem, but it's ALL audio, including mic and speakers. And I just did it and it worked. Nothing detected for audio devices anymore so the endless device manager auto-detect is now stopped. I wasn't keen on that because, well, audio output is nice.

Disabling in device manager did nothing, it kept trying to "autodetect" like every second.

I think the cheapo USB soundcard is a reasonable thing to try, I did find one for $10. Might just do it so I have a backup.

Something like this should do the trick, hey?
https://www.amazon.ca/Sabrent-External-Adapter-Windows-AU-MMSA/dp/B00IRVQ0F8?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Well, for $10 wth. Ordered it. Ironically it'll probably get her after her new PC lol

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

JnnyThndrs posted:

Could you disable the onboard audio in the BIOS on your old motherboard and use a $10 USB sound card instead? That’s the direction I’d go if I could.

A 2500K is a much better processor run at 4.3 or so on a P67/Z68/Z77 board rather than be stuck at 3.5 or whatever on a cheap non-OC mobo.

The $10 USB sound thing seems to work like a charm. Still replacing the computer, but will keep it as a spare or give it to the in-laws as theirs is probably on last legs. Thanks for the advice.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Can you grip the bottom of the pin with needle nose pliers and push up? You are 100% sure there is for sure nothing to turn on top of them?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Crosspost from laptop thread. Probably makes more sense here:

slidebite posted:

Question to AMD APU laptop owners:

Are windows supplied drivers the recommended go to or should I get drivers right from AMD? Is there a way to get the drivers from AMD without the software package? Just basic drivers without all the software?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Is there such thing as a USB hub which can be used between 2 PCs? For example, let's say something like a KVM but without the monitor connections, just sharing keyboards/mice between 2 PCs located close to eachother. Doesn't even need to be USB 3.

Amazon search is just showing USB hubs with a single USB-cord to the PC, but I'd like 2 cords to PCs, maybe with a physical switch to go between the PCs.

Make sense?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Exactly like that. Thanks

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

TheParadigm posted:

Does thermal paste go bad(ins storage?
I haven't bought a retail package of thermal paste in some time, but the last one I bought had an expiry date on it.

I still used it 3 years past date and it seemed to work fine, ymmv, etc

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Question about large capacity (18tb+) HDD for local bulk storage.

Is there a difference using a NAS or "Datacenter" drive (WD Red, Ironwolf) as a local SATA drive?

I presume not, but I'm really not sure what the difference is.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

wash bucket posted:

If you're just throwing them in a PC you won't notice a difference. NAS and datacenter hard drives usually just have longer warranties and are presumably built to be more reliable since they're used in equipment that could run continuously for years.

Though they might be a little noisier since nobody cares about that in server hardware.
Ok, so seems safe to use either way. Thought so, but appreciate you guys confirming.

quote:

killer internet

FWIW my MSI gaming laptop had Killer internet and it was hot garbage. This is several years ago but there was a utility to remove all the "killer" features and just make it a boring old NIC and it worked fine.

I think they were right from MSI in my case, under driver updates or whatever.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

If it is obviously porn, don't even look at it. Just delete the folders. Depending on your relationship, it's probably better to just not know what kinks they had.

e: And who knows, depending on how pervy they were the media archive might have all of a sudden become very manageable. :buddy:

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Professor Shark posted:

My father in law wants a new computer and my wife wants to buy one for him. She plans on spending $1000 CAD, however this computer will mainly be used for clicking on pop ups and accumulating malware, so I feel that something in the lower price range would be more suitable. Is there a good prebuilt computer for ~$500 CAD?
Assuming Windows and no gaming or anything like that? Sounds like a perfect candidate for one of N100 powered mini-PCs with a secured up browser and ublock.

Similar to this:
https://www.amazon.ca/500G-TRIGKEY-S3-Computer-Graphics/dp/B09T33K67R?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

If you want something with more oompf, there are now some really nice Ryzen powered units as well.

I bought a N95 Trigkey on a whim and it's been fantastic for what it is. If it wasn't for gaming, it would do 99% of my daily routine which consists of browsing, shitposting and maybe the odd circa 2000 gaming. It's now my HT/streaming PC after retiring my old 4th gen i3 with GTX760 .

There are many manufacturers of these minis but it seems to generally come down to I/O port choices. The trigkey above is a little anemic with just standard USB but I've seen them with full USB-C including video out so you can power/video with 1 cable if you have the right monitor.

Windows installs are generally clean with little to no bloatware (other than standard MS crap) from what I understand.

Just an idea.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Well, yeah, but the OP doesn't sound like they're concerned about performance. For browsing, whatever, it's perfectly fine for everything.

And they're brand new, tiny, generally no bloat, W11 without hacks, hardly any power, prime returnable if it blows/breaks.

And in :canada: where he seems to be, depending on his spec, possibly have more RAM and a larger SSD/M.2 than a retired fleet office machine.

Besides, the N100 is certainly not awful. It's probably somewhere around 6-7 gen i5 performance.

It's pretty much perfect for a scenario like they're asking for a dad/grandpa computer. I'd personally go for one over a used/refurb but to each their own.

But yes, a refurb is certainly an option although tbh my super quick amazon search actually shows the mini options cheaper than the refurbs most of the time with Prime.

If he wants to go $500+ he could get something Ryzen powered w/32GB which would curb stomp many desktops and capable of some semi reasonable gaming.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Ok Comboomer posted:

Nah, it’s clicking buy on eBay and having it next day/week

just find a reseller with a good rating and a lot of sales (ie the first couple of results) and don’t think about it, modern machines with zero moving parts aside from the fan(s) are basically bulletproof. And you’re getting something from a name brand with a support network and broad familiarity in North America instead of a no-name Chinese brand that nobody’s ever heard of with a SEO nonsense name.
As a long term consumer of refurb items, not even all that long ago I would have 100% been on board with your advice. But, I honestly have a hard time recommending a several generation used PC when something brand new on the current OS out of the box is available which fits the bill for similar $$ for someone with needs like this.

If you're concerned about a Chinese brand nobody has heard about, then, using your advice just buy one from a seller that has tons of sales and reviews OR buy one from a brand that has been around for some time.

A Mini PC sounds pretty much perfect for this kind of user. If they really wanted to spend ~$500, they could get a great, brand new little PC with decent a (non-e waste) keyboard, mouse and monitor and still have some money left over.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Anything to avoid for a M.2 pci card? Brands/styles to look for? Or just get whatever is cheapest?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Yeah those kind of things exactly, thanks.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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MarcusSA posted:

I’ve always used GFE because it’s just easier 🤷🏻‍♂️
I've literally never installed GFE. Am I missing out on anything?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Thanks, sounds like I'm not missing out on anything and I *hate* creating accounts to use purchased devices/hardware.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Print what? 8x11 sheets of B&W text? Business presentations with color? 5x7 photos? Large giclee artworks? 3D printing?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Printer thread:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3862377

But yeah, Brother laser. They are pretty solid for color and BW home usage.

I personally buy the name brand toners as well but they last me so long the expense isn't much of an issue,

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Could it have to do something with defender scanning every file?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

I've had portable USB drives do wonky behavior like that too, but the very same drive shucked and used as a native SATA drive be fine, so my hunch is questionable SATA-USB interfaces in some of those, even name brand setups.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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:colbert:

Are you talking about hardware for *your* needs or a flight sim PC for MSFS? Or a little of both? If your system is older and rocking a 1080ti, it might be pretty anemic for MSFS too.

MSFS is very power hungry. It'll take whatever you can give it. X3Ds are the reigning champ and last I checked the Nvidia cards (3080+-4070+) had the edge over AMD, but that may have changed.

On a PC, it's a matter as beefy of a PC and graphics card that your budget allows and desired resolution will also greatly impact.

You might want to post in the Games sub Flight Sim thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3942445

Actually, maybe consider buying her an Xbox and keeping your computer if you're generally happy with it? I understand MSFS runs on an XBox reasonably well, but I've never used one so I have zero clue how it works with the controller, but I'm pretty sure you're going to want some input accessories.

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