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The seemingly mute son is quite the normal Chatty Kathy when with the nerds. He acts like a kid of his age is supposed to. This show is really silly but doesn't come close to the retardation that is Under The Dumb.
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Robnoxious posted:The seemingly mute son is quite the normal Chatty Kathy when with the nerds. quote:This show is really silly but doesn't come close to the retardation that is Under The Dumb. I'm giving up on this show for now.
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Oct 21, 2014 09:02
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uublog posted:Don't be sorry! This show suuuuucks If you're not already, go watch Forever instead, that show is awesome and deserves more viewers than it's getting. Watch the whole thing, aside from the mild fantasy twist it reminds me of early Bones, before it stagnated and went to poo poo - appealing charismatic characters with great chemistry together, engaging crime mysteries. It also has a kinda Elementary vibe to it.
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Oct 21, 2014 09:09
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The Lord Bude posted:If you're not already, go watch Forever instead, that show is awesome and deserves more viewers than it's getting. Watch the whole thing, aside from the mild fantasy twist it reminds me of early Bones, before it stagnated and went to poo poo - appealing charismatic characters with great chemistry together, engaging crime mysteries. It also has a kinda Elementary vibe to it.
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Oct 21, 2014 09:12
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Josh Lyman posted:Agreed. Forever still needs to refine its mystery storyline process, but it's an infinitely better show than Scorpion. It's also a good deal better than Gotham. I'm enjoying it at least as much as almost human last year - hopefully it lasts longer.
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The Lord Bude posted:It's also a good deal better than Gotham. I'm enjoying it at least as much as almost human last year - hopefully it lasts longer. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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I had such high hopes for Gotham and scorpion. Are studios taking scripts from anybody these days? If so how do I submit my show ideas/ scripts. It's a sad day when "reality" tv is written better then drama shows.
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Oct 21, 2014 11:34
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I liked them having to use the super old computers but that guy was the least convincing "super manipulator" I've ever seen.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:49
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Josh Lyman posted:Yeah, I've cut off Gotham. Forever got 3 more scripts ordered, but the series is still likely to be cancelled. Ratings are pretty terrible, 1.1 last week. You know gotham was a teeny bit better this week - It's started embracing the camp. I'm going to keep watching.
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The Lord Bude posted:You know gotham was a teeny bit better this week - It's started embracing the camp. I'm going to keep watching. Gotham was a lot better. During the "angrily shout questions at a guy while guns are drawn on him" after a guy gave a short villain monologue about his plans and mentioned altruism Gordon is yelling demanding answers and in the same angry tone and gun drawn Bullock yells "What's altruism?!"
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The Lord Bude posted:You know gotham was a teeny bit better this week - It's started embracing the camp. I'm going to keep watching. Every time I begin to lose hope in that show I remember that Agents of Shield started out really bad (such that the writers later gave a nod to it by making Skye's real name Mary Sue) and very slowly got better with each episode until it became great.
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I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show.
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Oct 22, 2014 03:05
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Gawain The Blind posted:I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show. New thread title.
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Oct 22, 2014 04:28
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Gawain The Blind posted:I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show. The thing I hate most about this show is the loving "Inspired by the real life of Walter O'Brian" that precedes every episode and just puffs up his ego and his bullshit claims. If anything good comes out of this show it'll be some bullshit interview with O'Brian where he gets savaged for his nonsense or some newspaper digs into his claims and very publicly discredits everything he says.
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Oct 23, 2014 16:09
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Hahahahaha they somehow conned Linda Hunt into being in an episode. Can't wait to watch her overact everybody, you guys!
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Gawain The Blind posted:I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show I hate this show. I keep meaning to hate-watch this show but I can never muster the courage.
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Oct 24, 2014 14:56
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TheChad posted:I keep meaning to hate-watch this show but I can never muster the courage. Do it, it's great. The thought of the "ancient nuclear reactor" that is guarded by the Marines but has not a single nuclear engineer on side, because they couldn't be arsed to hire a new one after the old one quit and moved to Pennsylvania and still has fuel rods in it even though it's supposed to be "cooling down" to be dismantled in 8 years makes me smile. As little extra - the reactor computer system can only be updated by using an analog antenna for some reason (the reason is that they wanted a showdown in the backyard of crazy guy with big antenna).
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GaussianCopula posted:Do it, it's great. Ok I managed 15 minutes of it before I was forced to stop and rewatch some leverage to cleanse my palate.
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Oct 25, 2014 11:15
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GaussianCopula posted:Do it, it's great. Yeah, that was just painful and I managed to sit through The World is Not Enough's bad physics.
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There are much worse shows out there than this that break a lot more basic TV rules than even Scorpion could ever even aspire to do - yes, that's a compliment and probably the only nice thing I will say about this show. It's pretty much middling TV for most intents and purposes and probably just pisses off internet nerds more but otherwise probably wholly inoffensive otherwise to everyone else and just good enough that it isn't utter poo poo. There are literally worse shows out there that do things actually much worse than Scorpion. Trust me, there is nothing a whole lot wrong in the actual construction of the show despite it never being a show that will ever amount to much except "it exists" and "it obviously doesn't represents nerds right at all" and then people who gravitate to internet message boards will forget it even exists after a while. That being said, it's not even worth hate-watching here at all. And I've hate-watched all of Dexter and the most of Glee up to season 5 and those are probably something you'd rather spend your hate-watching time on. First off, if you strip away the impossible technobabble/logistics/fake nerd talk/whatever, it pretty much is just any other procedural and I don't ever see it ever amounting to much, but at least the dumb technical poo poo they make up at the end of the day is at least internally consistent enough with it's own dumb logic that no one outside of internet message board posters will really question it beyond the basic premise of "why are they even doing that at all when IRL, X, Y or Z would've already been done?" Secondly there really has to be some behind-the-scenes poo poo from IRL Walter O'Brien and how he probably has some say over the stories because if you look up who probably runs the show, it's probably not him. It's probably not Kurtzman/Orci (who are probably hands off and just collect cheques) either and even with all the poo poo people give them, they at least have a better standard than what I've seen, so the last and obvious choice is the creator and probably the actual day-to-day EP Nick Santora - IMDB his credits and see how much writing he's done - he either has a lot of dirt on people or I don't know. One other issue I have is if you're going to have a "team", you kinda want to showcase them instead of leaving everything to basically being constantly secondary characters that solely revolve around Walter. I mean, go ahead and do it if you want, but (I don't want to say lazy writing) it's probably not going to win anyone over seeing as the cases-of-the-week aren't going to work out to be technical accomplishments in any sense of the word. I'll be nice again and say the pilot was actually done right at the very least - yes, we all know what they all did in the pilot is utter bullshit, but let's be fair here, at least they all did show off their poo poo with the time they were given vs. the 4 following episodes where it's been minimal at least. Again, let's quote: pentyne posted:So, for the list Look at that list again, because Walter is probably the only one who's fleshed out at any bit and the rest are one- or two-note characters, despite the fact they occasionally get enough screentime, except they're there to just explain something to someone who doesn't understand something in nerdspeak immediately. And Walter's history only pops up briefly in that episode with the guy with an infected daughter and is any momentum is dropped after that [because nerds can't express themselves] (there isn't any lazy writing because at least his sister shows up, Paige talks to him about it that episode, but any real arc just falls flat). Actually, let me take a second with that episode, because it showed hints of what the other team members backstories or skeletons in their closets but those even fall flat or just get shotgunned out and fail to really connect. -Sylvester has some fun moments in that episode (scared of germs but has to go through a biohazard room) but the money thing at the end was weird (nothing specific about why he's funny around money except he just is) and hasn't been mined at all otherwise but at least he's fun to watch -Happy is finally defined as having anger issues but they never come up BUT has that line about how she doesn't trust people over tools juxtaposed with her tool breaking at the end which is smart BUT there's no pathos there so that's that and she's still filler in the team since her expertise is never brought up -Toby has the ex-wife and gambling issues and has that phonecall from her at the end but seemed like empty payoff for nothing since it never comes up except at the start then at the end -and Paige is there for her son and seems like the only consistent one among them with Cabe (regular people, right?) but right now they mostly exist because of the show's premise more than anything. In the end these don't really do anything except show these 2-dimensional characters as nothing more than 2-dimensional and don't do anything with them except remind us about them at the end because the attempt to make it seem like they are more than that fall flat with nothing concrete to expound on. At least TBBT tries to make the audience empathize with the cast (despite it being a sitcom and having the biggest sperg in Sheldon Cooper) and shows they are just like ordinary people who want to aspire to be better and connect with other people (I mean everyone except Raj have partners now more or less) and be happy. No one in Scorpion really has anything to convince us they are just people who just happen to be super smart or are trying to be better people most of the time (because apparently they are better off being lost in their poo poo unless you nag them out of their mind palace). I'm sure they fleshed out the rest of Scorpion's characters FOR REAL somewhere in the show's bible but there hasn't been any of it show. Again, simplest way to do this would be to just have a case that for one reason or another hits home for one of the team and they are the protagonist of the episode - or rather the one who strives the hardest to make sure they solve whatever job they have. Except they don't and I think that's pretty much a waste of time and it's all on Walter to rally the team at the eleventh hour (and their Walter-centric episode fell flat there anyway). Because at least they would be perfect opportunities to showcase that teammate, their expertise, a chance to show their personal demons/issues/past and watch them overcome them and become better people. If that's not there then I'm pretty sure I'm just going to clock out eventually. I mean the freaking Vegas episode was practically supposed to be Toby's episode - and I'm not going to try to suggest how I would've written it at all - but the issues I had with it were that he wasn't really that central of a character to it even after Walter got arrested (since they all try to pay his bail, Toby fucks up the gambling anyway, Walter ends up getting the big final vital clue and Toby is just captured and that just plays itself out anyway as a passive character), and nothing else about him ever really comes up except we learn he's a fuckup while gambling and we already knew that and nothing really else. This week's episode with the former Scorpion member was played kind of safe because in the end Walter's decision was RIGHT ALL ALONG anyway despite the other guy's POV making Walter seem like a bad guy and the dude ends up being the mustache twirling villain who masterminded dumb poo poo just to prove a point that he's supposed to be better than everyone else. It had a few good points like Walter struggling with the team and the actual team not reduced to being distracted spergy idiots during an emergency (so we can get through the plot already). Cabe's thing about being trapped and exposed to radiation kinda fell flat for me even though Robert Patrick can bring some gravitas because it was him kissing his daughter's photo, unsure of his fate, immediately followed by him washing up on beach and tipping his imaginary hat at some ladies in bikinis as he walks out of the water (which was amusing enough at least). And don't get me started on them trying to pair Happy and Toby - mostly because the former probably has trust issues (she trusts tools more than people, but it's not really expanded on despite it being easy drama to mine) and Toby is still not entirely over his ex-wife (because he keeps calling her trying to make up for it and all that poo poo and it's never really explored so in a way he can't get over it and move on), and that's just probably the basics, anyway (not gonna editorialize on if the actors could pull it off convincingly or not). Or it could all happen and a mess and fallout could come out of it, but I also don't trust they'd go in that direction ever or handle it properly.  TL;DR - I swear I'm not getting too angry, but that's my stupid 2 cents on this dumb show. I mean, maybe I'm being unreasonable but my argument is that if your plots are going to be dumb as poo poo at least make the main characters interesting, and Scorpion is failing at that. I mean, I'm looking at the first 10 or so episodes of Leverage's first season (synopses on Wikipedia, alright?) but at least they seem to have a bunch of character-focused episodes there already, if not covered them all at least once.
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I am tempted to introduce myself as "Hi, I'm mcbexx and I have the fourth highest IQ ever recorded" just to find out how many people would punch me in the face for it.
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Oct 26, 2014 09:36
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The show is regularly shedding viewers, by episode 10 they might be in the ratings range where cancellation is on the table.
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pentyne posted:The show is regularly shedding viewers, by episode 10 they might be in the ratings range where cancellation is on the table. CBS gave it a full season pickup, actually. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/10/27/cbs-gives-full-season-orders-to-scorpion-madam-secretary-ncis-new-orleans-stalker/320228/ CBS hands that poo poo out like candy though, even loving Stalker gets one.
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pentyne posted:The show is regularly shedding viewers, by episode 10 they might be in the ratings range where cancellation is on the table.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:23
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pentyne posted:The thing I hate most about this show is the loving "Inspired by the real life of Walter O'Brian" that precedes every episode and just puffs up his ego and his bullshit claims. I love that part, O'Brien has an IQ of 194, Einsteins was only 160. So with 30 more IQ points on Einsten all he did with his life was live in some Steven Seagal-esque fantasy world where he saves the world from terrorists. It's gold. Woden fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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My name is Walter O'Brien. I'm smarter than everyone, including Einstein, who is the only genius a non-genius muggle like you has heard of. When I was eleven, I totally hacked the government and made broccoli and bed times illegal. Now, I run a team of geniuses tackling world-wide threats only we can solve because we're so much smarter than you people who will never understand us, i'm talking to you Sheila Goldstein from Miss Walker's eighth-grade english class. I bet you totally regret calling me a fat nerd now that i'm an international secret agent cause i'm so smart. Toby's the mentalist except not as cool. Sylvester's socially awkward and funny because he's a fatty. Not that there is anything wrong with being husky, Sheila Goldstein. In some cultures its a sign of being in good health! Happy can weld things and she's a girl so that's like totally crazy and awesome. She also wants my dick cause all girls want my dick now cause of how smart and handsome I am. Agent Gallo is a gruff but fair father-figure who always approves of me and never tells me he's disappointed because I didn't make the football team, DAD. And Paige? Well, Paige isn't like us. She's a useless foil that we can explain things to because otherwise you people wouldn't even understand what we're doing cause we're so smart. Especially me. Her kid is smart too so of course he never talks and can't handle normal stuff because that's how smart people are! Together, we are Scorpion. SHKOW SHKOW, LIGHTNING AND SKULLS. Scorpion is the coolest name EVER.
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Gawain The Blind posted:Toby's the mentalist except not as cool. You loose points for not working in an American Pie poo poo Break reference. And I can't stop watching this show. Its like a car accident I can't look away from the mangled bodies.
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Gawain The Blind posted:My name is Walter O'Brien.
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For the life of me I cannot understand how Walter O'Brian has crafted this mythos around his life and gained so much attention that he was able to get a major US network show made. Everything I hear is that he's more or less completely full of poo poo, that nothing he claimed can stand up to any scrutiny, and all he does is constantly repeat the line about having a 195 IQ and being emotionless because his left brain is so incredibly powerful it shut-off his emotions. Literally everything about his reputation cannot be easily verified and as people started looking into it they just discovered more bs that he tried to brush off as not deigning to stoop to their level to defend his claims. And by "everything" I mean literally everything. Look at the corporate website. LOOK AT IT! http://scorpioncomputerservices.com/ It's like a 2004 cautionary tale of how not to create a corporate web page. There are 2-3 store restaurants that have webpages that look more professional. I'm beating a dead horse, but I am desperately awaiting for someone to break down the entire Walter O'Brian saga and expose him for fat piece of poo poo that he is.
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pentyne posted:I'm beating a dead horse, but I am desperately awaiting for someone to break down the entire Walter O'Brian saga and expose him for fat piece of poo poo that he is.
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Sober posted:CBS gave it a full season pickup, actually. Stalker is loving great.
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Wandle Cax posted:Stalker is loving great. Nope.
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What's the best custome for a socialy awkward genius kid to wear on Halloween? You are right, a brain! My working theory how this show came to be is that Walter O'Brien/Scorpion Computer Services got the job to upgrade a system for CBS and he found pictures of Les and the the Chenbot having a threesome with their security guard and uses those to blackmail them into giving him the show. I dont see this show getting a second season and hope todays ratings will be down by a lot after it's now longer anchored by TBBT.
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This show has managed to cram everything I hate about poo poo tv shows into one perfect formula. What a spectacular turd. I can't believe the writers manage to put on a serious face at their jobs without the constant threat of breaking into laughter and screaming "what am I doing here jesus loving christ".
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pentyne posted:For the life of me I cannot understand how Walter O'Brian has crafted this mythos around his life and gained so much attention that he was able to get a major US network show made. EB-1 Visas are given to PhD students. The whole thing is more trumped up than the resume of a college athlete.
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I skipped last week's episode with the nuclear reactor but for some reason, I watched this week's episode with the art theft. God drat this stupid show. What a waste of Shohreh Aghdashloo. No more relapses.
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Josh Lyman posted:"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has certified Scorpion as being of National Interest to the United States economy and granted him an Extraordinary Ability EB 1-1 Visa (also granted to Albert Einstein and Winston Churchill)." How did the Department of Homeland Security manage to grant him his visa in 1993? I mean, they were founded in November of 2002 which makes it a bit difficult, but maybe Walter invented a time maschine for them so they could give him the visa in 1993.
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Josh Lyman posted:"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has certified Scorpion as being of National Interest to the United States economy and granted him an Extraordinary Ability EB 1-1 Visa (also granted to Albert Einstein and Winston Churchill)." Walter probably fell for the Who's Who scam and has a copy prominent on his shelf.
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Josh Lyman posted:I skipped last week's episode with the nuclear reactor but for some reason, I watched this week's episode with the art theft. I didn't particularly like the framing device with the psych mostly because it just involved scenes with all the other team members basically worshiping Walter in an episode already centered on Walter trying to be a better person (which they did fairly well by the end imo). And you already spent like 5 episodes with everyone worshiping Walter already. We get it, Walter O'Brien.
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