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Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.
BOOM! Studios has announced a six part Giant Days series written by Allison and drawn by Lissa Treiman

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Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.
Class differences were always explained to me in terms of how pressing bills/food costs are to a person - if someone works to stay housed and fed, they're working class; if someone works more for amenities or to maintain or improve an already decent living they're middle class (and if someone doesn't need to work at all they're upper class).

Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.

wiegieman posted:

We have council estates in the States, we tend to call them The Projects as a general term. And sure, if they're notoriously poorly managed or gang-ridden in your city there might be some kind of stigma on being from there, but if you're making something of your life then no one cares. We're phasing them out for direct housing assistance anyway. The unfortunate truth is that class divisions, by and large, define people who aren't willing to exit the life they're in. Does that require a lot of work? Yes, but statistically, most wealthy people in the modern era were not born wealthy. The mayor of London is a child of Muslim immigrants.

That's going to be the case with Shauna. She's an intelligent, pretty blonde who's ambitious and works hard. She's the kind of person who won't be poor forever, no matter what accent she happens to have (unless Allison wants to write a depressing story, which isn't impossible, but this is a setting where a preteen became queen of hell so a poor person getting an education and a career in a country with generous higher education funding isn't that far fetched.)

That is a pretty typical American opinion, yes. Not necessarily wrong in the US, but certainly inaccurate in the UK.

Problem is in the UK it's nigh-on impossible to "escape" the class you were born in, due to factors like education and the like being very biased towards the upper classes - our Higher Education funding is only "generous" compared to the US (HE is free in most of Europe) and lower class kids are being priced out of university in favour of people who can afford it. In many cases - it is difficult to even maintain quality of living if you're working class in the UK. Meanwhile, the upper and middle classes will disparage you for not "working hard enough".

Even if you DO make a decent living as a working class person in the UK, you often have to deal with being looked down upon, or even outright discriminated against for speaking the wrong accent, or having poor parents. It's happened to myself, and it's happened to almost everyone I know.

In America, classes don't really define a person; In the UK, class permeates through everything. It may very well be the case with that a person like Shauna would succeed in life, yes - but her class would make it more difficult, and someone of higher class with the same experience and skills would almost certainly do better.

Disproportionation
Feb 20, 2011

Oh god it's the Clone Saga all over again.

Captain Oblivious posted:

To be honest it gets increasingly difficult to stomach any of the characters in this comic as time goes on. Almost everyone has become more and more intolerable over the last few cases.

Yup, that's teenagers.

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