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Older novels are all racist as hell, if you want a full blast of it go read something like King Solomon's Mines.
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Control Volume posted:Older novels are all racist as hell, if you want a full blast of it go read something like King Solomon's Mines.  I feel that would be his response.
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Sep 27, 2014 05:01
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This may come as a shock, but a man born and raised in early 20th century england may not have actually had a very progressive world view.
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Sep 27, 2014 05:03
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Actually King Solomon's Mines probably gets away with a lot on account of being first person, in retrospect
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Sep 27, 2014 05:10
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Contra Calculus posted:This may come as a shock, but a man born and raised in early 20th century england may not have actually had a very progressive world view. It doesn't come as a shock at all to me, but I find it very interesting that all this is lost/removed in the movies and modern interpretations as it would of course not be acceptable now.
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Sep 27, 2014 05:16
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Skandranon posted:Maybe it is? We'll probably the Gondor Rohan team up represented the UK and USA. USA being the Cowboys in horses who ride to join with the UK as their get bombed for a while. Men who fail often and blunder about but always manage to win those pesky world wars.
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Sep 27, 2014 05:56
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Anyone who thinks Tolkien was anti-Semitic should read his letters when Germans came calling to ask about a translation. TL;DR: Germany was proud of his German last name and said 'this work is very Arisch!', to which he replied pretty much 'I'm sorry, assuming you mean Aryan none of my ancestors spoke these most definitely not German languages. If you mean Jewish, well, sadly I have no ancestry of that gifted people. But if you're going to make these inquiries I'll be ashamed of my last name. I don't even live in Germany, I served in the English army, you fucks, so gently caress off.' He actually sent two letters, one of which was much more diplomatic and told his publisher 'send either of these you want, I don't give a drat'.
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Sep 27, 2014 06:02
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Dvlos posted:We'll probably the Gondor Rohan team up represented the UK and USA. USA being the Cowboys in horses who ride to join with the UK as their get bombed for a while. Men who fail often and blunder about but always manage to win those pesky world wars. Stupid Roherin congress wouldn't allow Theodin to declare war until it was almost too late.
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Sep 27, 2014 06:08
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*walks into gamestop with sixty dollars* Whoa! Tolkien was a racist, maybe? *does a 180 and walks back home* Phew, dodged a bullet there.
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Sep 27, 2014 06:25
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matrix ripoff posted:*walks into gamestop with sixty dollars* They should really take that sign down.
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Sep 27, 2014 06:32
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21 Hoot Salute posted:Edit: Talion is Troy Baker? gently caress yes! And the new villain is Nolan North. The destined confrontation!
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Sep 27, 2014 06:40
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Eponymous posted:And the new villain is Nolan North. The destined confrontation! Who is the villain, actually? I mean obviously Sauron but we can't fight him cause he doesn't have a body anymore, right? (I am not much of an LOTR person so I could be totally wrong there.) I heard some mentions in the gameplay videos that you're getting an orc army together to fight the black captains, does that mean the ring wraiths or are these different guys? e: vvvv sold, that dude looks like he owns Solomonic fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Sep 27, 2014 |
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Sep 27, 2014 07:20
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They recently made a trailer about that actually...
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Sep 27, 2014 07:22
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Solomonic posted:Who is the villain, actually? I mean obviously Sauron but we can't fight him cause he doesn't have a body anymore, right? (I am not much of an LOTR person so I could be totally wrong there.) I heard some mentions in the gameplay videos that you're getting an orc army together to fight the black captains, does that mean the ring wraiths or are these different guys? The black captains are probably going to be the main villain. Given what the trailers show, after that he heads off with his army to take on Sauron only to get buried in a pyroclastic surge that turns Mordor into the hellhole it is in LOTR. Granted, there's plenty of opportunity for them to subvert the trailers. But there's no way Talion gets a happy ending unless it's some sort of alternate universe "what if?" sort of thing. According to someone on these forums who claimed to have played an early build of the game he gets turned into a Nazgul/wraith just in time for the siege of Gondor. Presumably all those mind control powers actually have a side effect if that's true. There's even a few one liners in the gameplay demonstrations about how he's having a harder time remembering his family every time he dies. So maybe that'll be a plot point. Archonex fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Sep 27, 2014 |
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Sep 27, 2014 07:30
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Archonex posted:The black captains are probably going to be the main villain. Given what the trailers show, after that he heads off with his army to take on Sauron only to get buried in a pyroclastic surge that turns Mordor into the hellhole it is in LOTR. Granted, there's plenty of opportunity for them to subvert the trailers. But there's no way Talion gets a happy ending unless it's some sort of alternate universe "what if?" sort of thing. That spoiler is 100% inaccurate.
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Sep 27, 2014 07:47
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Solomonic posted:Who is the villain, actually? I mean obviously Sauron but we can't fight him cause he doesn't have a body anymore, right? (I am not much of an LOTR person so I could be totally wrong there.) I heard some mentions in the gameplay videos that you're getting an orc army together to fight the black captains, does that mean the ring wraiths or are these different guys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y-72GcnSDw This is the Black Captains Trailer. Showing the Three of them. We know the names of two of them, the Black Hand and the Tower. All I will say is that the Tower looks the coolest.
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Sep 27, 2014 07:51
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Pure conjecture on my part: Sauron is actually playing a trick on you the whole time and using you to both weed out the weaklings in his army and provide him with a force which follows him without question.
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Sep 27, 2014 07:51
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Dammit. This looks really cool but pretty much every game tied to the LotR licence has sucked. The timing is even perfect as I just finished platinuming Infamous and want something new for the PS4. I'm probably going to cave and preorder tomorrow after work. 
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Sep 27, 2014 08:12
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BGrifter posted:Dammit. This looks really cool but pretty much every game tied to the LotR licence has sucked. The timing is even perfect as I just finished platinuming Infamous and want something new for the PS4. Speaking of the LOTR licence, it's interesting that they've kept the LOTR name and logo out of the marketing/game. I imagine they're trying to set it apart from all the other terrible tie in games. I probably wouldn't have any interest if that logo was slapped on the box. Strange that.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:45
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I liked those gauntlet style hack and slash games they made, but that was a long time ago.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:50
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I hope you can unlock that Black Hand armor, cause drat that looks rad.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:54
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MonsterEnvy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y-72GcnSDw The third guy is The Hammer  Don't get to excited about them though reviews seem to agree that the boss fights are disappointing
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Sep 27, 2014 09:07
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Sleepy Owl posted:The third guy is The Hammer Even if they are I will probably enjoy them none the less.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:12
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MonsterEnvy posted:Even if they are I will probably enjoy them none the less. Yeah even if the fights are just combat encounters with the boss added in they'll likely be fun enough even if they aren't amazing.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:17
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ImpAtom posted:That spoiler is 100% inaccurate. Well gently caress me. Goons suck at spoiling games I guess. Disregard it then. Archonex fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Sep 27, 2014 |
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Sep 27, 2014 09:19
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I don't think I've been this hyped for a game in a very long time. It simply looks amazing in every way.
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Sep 27, 2014 13:15
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Orv posted:He was a turn of the 20th century Englishman, it's astonishing the entire thing isn't just one secret racist tirade. It's actually a religious tirade criticizing man's hubris in disregarding the old ways in pursuit of science and technology (which were represented by the One Ring), which he felt led to consequences like the World Wars.
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Sep 27, 2014 13:30
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bonds0097 posted:It's actually a religious tirade criticizing man's hubris in disregarding the old ways in pursuit of science and technology (which were represented by the One Ring), which he felt led to consequences like the World Wars. Which old ways were ok with him? 19th century, or 1st century? I have a feeling he wouldn't have been so happy losing 2000 years of technology.
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Sep 27, 2014 15:13
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Dude was basically anti-industrialism. A big part of the Uruks and why they're so evil is because they're basically mass-produced garbage.
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Sep 27, 2014 15:28
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kalonZombie posted:Dude was basically anti-industrialism. A big part of the Uruks and why they're so evil is because they're basically mass-produced garbage. The internet constantly says he was anti-war, I had a professor actually tell me he was certain the ring itself represented a round vagina and what would happen to society if we let women in the work force, and then this post I quoted is actually an idea that isn't poo poo. Does anyone here with a PC that doesn't quite meet the requirements plan to buy the game anyway? I'm a hair short of the CPU requirements and really want one of you to spend fifty bucks and report back to potentially save me from wasting fifty bucks.
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Sep 27, 2014 15:50
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extra stout posted:The internet constantly says he was anti-war, I had a professor actually tell me he was certain the ring itself represented a round vagina and what would happen to society if we let women in the work force, and then this post I quoted is actually an idea that isn't poo poo. I've got an i5-2500 and I've already ordered the game, so, tuesday night eu time i can tell you if i made a terrible mistake or not.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:04
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i5-2500k is well past the minimum requirements.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:11
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Right sorry, for some reason i assumed he was talking about recommended specs. Minimum makes way more sense.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:12
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This game has perfect timing. I'm just about up to the point in Destiny where I feel I can safely step away because I'm fully decked out in legendary gear and have that "ready for the expansion" state. A new game is much welcomed right now. I thought this game looked awesome from the start...but like others, I knew LOTR games are never very good so I curbed my expectations. A very pleasant surprise.
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The more streams I watched the more amazing this game looks - especially now that some early copies are out in the wild and regular players are streaming, versus guided tours. The gameplay looks every bit as emergent as has been advertised, I am super psyched for Tuesday. Also, it can't be said enough how great the combat animations look. Everything just flows so smoothly and it looks like an absolute blast to play.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:38
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extra stout posted:Does anyone here with a PC that doesn't quite meet the requirements plan to buy the game anyway? I'm a hair short of the CPU requirements and really want one of you to spend fifty bucks and report back to potentially save me from wasting fifty bucks. I need to get a dx11 compatible videocard first but my cpu is way below the specs and I plan on picking it up and playing it on minimum settings. My cpu is an i3 540 @ 3ghz so I have a feeling that if it is playable it will be just at the bare possible minimum allowed. Of course if the game is more reliant on gpu over cpu it may not make that big of a difference. I don't know much about the new-gen games out there but I vaguely recall they are more demanding on the gpu over cpu. I'm probably wrong about that though.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:41
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extra stout posted:Does anyone here with a PC that doesn't quite meet the requirements plan to buy the game anyway? I'm a hair short of the CPU requirements and really want one of you to spend fifty bucks and report back to potentially save me from wasting fifty bucks. I'm absolutely getting it and I have an AMD Phenom II X4 960T @ 3 GHz, and the minimum is an AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.4 GHz, so I think I could gauge just how much of a hair short you can be while still running it fine  .Edit: It's also worth noting that Monolith actually gives a poo poo about 60 fps, so the listed requirements might just represent the minimum to get that kind of framerate. Moartoast fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Sep 27, 2014 |
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Sep 27, 2014 17:44
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kalonZombie posted:Dude was basically anti-industrialism. A big part of the Uruks and why they're so evil is because they're basically mass-produced garbage. Tolkien's biography (by Humphrey Carpenter) actually was a very interesting read and I completely recommend it to anyone who's at least a little curious about the man.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:58
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MMAgCh posted:While the Shire pretty much embodied Tolkien's vision of the English countryside he'd been familiar with in his youth – pastoral, unpolluted, and so on. Just look at what happens when Saruman seizes control of it. While at the same time pouring a hell of a lot of criticism on the 'keep away from trouble and trouble will keep away from you' 'me and mine' incestual attitude that's still prevalent in the UK. Anyway it's all applicable rather than allegorical innit. 
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Thinking of grabbing the PS4 version, because while I have a nice gaming PC, after the issues I had running Dead Rising 3...I might just get a console version instead to avoid them. But has any comparison between the two versions appeared yet?
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