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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:I love that these are built as chassis with body panels attached at the final stage of production - so for a while the factory workers are driving around and testing these tiny viper go-karts with no panels on them. They look adorable :3 Back when I was still an advertising/car photographer, a colleague and I did a shoot at the Viper plant, which is actually about a mile from my house. That is the coolest shop floor I've ever been on, and those pre-body Viper go-karts are just as awesome and adorable in real life as you can imagine. I desperately wanted to take one for a spin, but they weren't having it. Beautiful car, Das Volk. Congrats. Also, I totally support your "Drive it not hide it" philosophy.
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The Midniter posted:They just cut the price of a brand new Viper by $15k to bring it down to $85k. How can that dealer justify selling a USED 2013 for $92k? I feel bad for the poor uninformed sap who buys that thinking he's getting a "killer deal". The MSRP on that one was closer to $140k...so even after the $15k discount it's still a good deal. n8r posted:If Cflynn buys a viper can we have an official AI pool for how many pictures he posts of it within the first year? Probably 1/10th the number of pictures people with stanced Audi wagons post. As for my own searching, since I now make most of my income through my LLC I'm trying to find...a lease deal. Which just adds another layer of being a pain in the rear end.
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Comrade Flynn posted:As for my own searching, since I now make most of my income through my LLC I'm trying to find...a lease deal. Which just adds another layer of being a pain in the rear end. Fleet Viper The two most beautiful words in the English language.
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I love how they've gone back the the GTS style lines. Something about the headlights doesn't photograph well, I think it's the running lights that make the headlights look cheap or something. Granted, I have not seen one in person, it's likely a non-issue. Rest of the car looks amazing though. Very nice
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Das Volk posted:And when it comes to "standard equipment" on a car you really can't beat this as a feature: Explain? Does it just have mounts? Can you get a 5pt working with the stock seat?
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 Somebody was at the San Francisco Cars and Coffee this morning. The car looks great!
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Yup, I think my favorite car there was that Alpina Z1. I'm actually having a hard time finding the space to really go WOT so actual video may have to wait until I can get it on the track. Thunderhill is running some days, but I'm for sure at Laguna with Norcal SAAC the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Does anyone have any definitive information on the DB levels of the Viper? I'm worried the side pipes will be more likely to trigger the 92DB limit, and I'm curious if anyone's found any kind of solution.
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Das Volk posted:Does anyone have any definitive information on the DB levels of the Viper? I'm worried the side pipes will be more likely to trigger the 92DB limit, and I'm curious if anyone's found any kind of solution. Exhaust stacks.
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http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/605-Tracking-the-Gen-V-at-Laguna-Secaquote:Laguna Seca had a 90 dB limit and I was promptly meatballed for exceeding it at 94.9 dB, which means you get a lecture and have to sit the rest of the session out. This was after short shifting into fourth and bogging it past the sound booth, on advice of Graham Henckel. Even Bushido exceeded it in his Gen IV, whereas in the past he had never had any issues. It was foggy at times, and the sound reflects off of the fog and adds a few dB to the reading. So this meant that for the rest of the day, I had to bog it in fourth gear at partial throttle from before turn 5 to after turn 6. Yuck, what a pisser!
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Recalibrate the equipment when they're not looking.
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Is 92db a driveby or static limit? Also, the car is amazing. Do they make them blue with white stripes still, that was by far my faviorite colour combination.
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pointing the exhaust directly at the sound sensors probably isn't a very good idea. Can't you just hammer a potato into the right pipe? 
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Powershift posted:Can't you just hammer a potato into the right pipe? And send it shooting into the sensor booth? Sounds like a plan.
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Ok, plan B. Turbos act as mufflers, and would probably bring it down under 92 dB
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Powershift posted:Ok, plan B. Turbos act as mufflers, and would probably bring it down under 92 dB I will stand behind this suggestion, and second the idea.
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Powershift posted:Ok, plan B. Turbos act as mufflers, and would probably bring it down under 92 dB Bolt them straight onto the outside of the car, under the doors.
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:Bolt them straight onto the outside of the car, under the doors. And direct the airflow from the compressor into the brakes!
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Powershift posted:Ok, plan B. Turbos act as mufflers, and would probably bring it down under 92 dB This truly is the best idea.
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Powershift posted:Ok, plan B. Turbos act as mufflers, and would probably bring it down under 92 dB I dunno man. The 800HP twin-turbo Viper I saw at a local track a couple of years ago seemed to be plenty loud, it drowned out literally every other car there, including straight-piped track specials. Which is to say, I fully support turboing the Viper. Blow out the sound equipment for good.
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What a fun looking car, great decision!track day bro! posted:Also, the car is amazing. Do they make them blue with white stripes still, that was by far my faviorite colour combination. I actually liked a lot of different colour/stripe combinations on the vipers but that classic blue and white is just so iconic.
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Small update, I got the car dyno'ed. Borelli was kind enough to dyno it for free for bringing the car out during their annual event this evening. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1npMYvV-Bc
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Wow that is an incredible torque curve.
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angryhampster posted:Wow that is an incredible torque curve.  What he said.
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This makes more power/torque at idle than a BP miata does at redline, doesn't it?
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mobby_6kl posted:This makes more power/torque at idle than a BP miata does at redline, doesn't it? The power meters in it claim about 150 ft-lbs when moving off idle, so yeah. Speaking of meters, I'm only one hard right hander away from pegging it in all 4 directions:
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Time for an update. I'm taking the car to Laguna Seca next Friday, and this will be a good opportunity to get in some time on my second favorite track. Then off to LV for the SRT trackday the following monday. I've been driving the car hard and a few things have come up. One, the stock suspension is totally inadequate - it pitches, it dives, it yaws, and none of that is good. The car needs to be planted and predictable, and while it's extremely good it can be a lot better, so I'm installing MCS two way adjustables (remote reservoir) with some custom springs and upgraded swaybar links. The American Car Curse has returned a bit too, the trans is grinding into reverse unless in a gear first, and I think the third gear synchro was shot from day 1. The stereo is still screwed up too. The dealership I took it to was REALLY bad though and I've got appointments lined up for a much better place to look at it as well as a case open with the SRT team. I'll get some video of the track day up once it happens.
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It actually really bums me out that as a Viper enthusiast since they first came out for the sheer American vulgarity that it stood for compared to anything else contemporary, that on Chrysler's halo car, their one big shot, the hey guys seriously this is the best we can do to make up for everything thats happened has issues like that already popping up. Or maybe its because its low volume that poo poo is happening? I'm just trying to understand. I thought they made such a big deal out of making drat sure all the issues were polished and saying how much time and effort went in to crafting this car for its big comeback after going away for a while.
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You must be nuts to pick this over a 991 Still a cool car. I´d be afraid to kill myself with a viper. Always thought of it as a real man´s car.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:...the sheer American vulgarity that it stood for.... ...and this is why I love Vipers.
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88h88 posted:...and this is why I love Vipers. at least this one won't burn your legs when you're getting out.
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OFFICER 13 INCH posted:It actually really bums me out that as a Viper enthusiast since they first came out for the sheer American vulgarity that it stood for compared to anything else contemporary, that on Chrysler's halo car, their one big shot, the hey guys seriously this is the best we can do to make up for everything thats happened has issues like that already popping up. I suspect part of the problem with DV's car is that it was abused in the dealership. But it should definitely be better than it is considering the price. Not sure about the tranny, I've heard good things about the Tremec unit. Surprised reverse is synchronized at all.
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I once talked to a guy who did a lot of track days in his Viper and he said that the gearbox was one of the weak points - especially third gear. Has the gearbox changed much over the years?
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FullMetalJacket posted:unfortunately this one won't burn the trooper's legs when he's writing your ticket.
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DV let me drive his Viper around and I was able to full-throttle it a few times on the 101. The car just screams "relentlessly vicious", it's insane. It's also a blast. Super comfortable, incredibly grippy, shitloads of power in any situation.
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panzertape posted:You must be nuts to pick this over a 991 The only 991 you get at viper prices is the base carerra which is docile as gently caress and slow as balls, by performance car terms. It would also likely have as many quality problems.
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Lightbulb Out posted:I once talked to a guy who did a lot of track days in his Viper and he said that the gearbox was one of the weak points - especially third gear. Has the gearbox changed much over the years? I know the original was a vaguely beefed up version of the original Borg-Warner T-56 (more like the LT1 Camaro T-56 than the LS1 Tremec T-56) but I think after that car, they switched to the TR6060.
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from an SRT specialist I've been working with:quote:Tell them to order a new transmission because if they do a “70%” sheet that they would need the cost to replace it is a better option. We have replaced a transmission before already on a low mile GenV so it is not unheard of. Tell them to get on it; there is 1 on back order now (part has been updated like 6 times!) so the sooner they order the sooner they will release one for you. Have them order it as a “vehicle down” order. 
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Das Volk posted:from an SRT specialist I've been working with: Reminiscences of the Cadillac? Or does it feel more like the Corvette? C6 is going to be a bargain really soon, so the niggling defects are livable, but that kind of poo poo is inexcusable for a new, high-dollar sports car.
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meatpimp posted:that kind of poo poo is inexcusable for a new, high-dollar sports car. while a beautiful piece of hardware, its on TVR levels of fuckery.
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