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Pandasmores posted:Holy poo poo thats loving metal as gently caress. It's like a curve. In places where everybody is doing serious war stuff, it takes an outrageous amount of effort to really stand out, where in a place where any doofus that runs a bake sale is America's hero of the day the bar is pretty low. You have to do something special to get an award. What defines special is how special the people you work with are.
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Pandasmores posted:Holy poo poo thats loving metal as gently caress. Our junior galley watch captain got a nam for making cookies and managing inventory while the nukes who worked 3x the hours doing emergent repairs got dick. Awards are presented on a major curve and are subject to all kinds of stupid politics.
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Oct 24, 2014 16:36
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I've got a pic somewhere of me shooting that dual 50. Those things loving own.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I've got a pic somewhere of me shooting that dual 50. Those things loving own. Dual 50 club checkin in, that thing was loving amazing to shoot while we were in the gulf. It's good to be friends with gunner's mates when they have ammo that needs to be used. It feels like the loving thunder of god going off right in front of you  Anyone in here shot a Mk. 19? That one's on my list of things I really want to shoot. 
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orange juche posted:Are you on the Ford? I got propositioned by the detailer to come there for my next billet, as I still have 24 months left on my contract. I'd be working in N6/ADP/Printer Bitch, but how is the command from your perspective as the most run down motherfucker on the ship? Honestly this command is probably the best command in the Navy in how they are honestly trying (but things outside of the command's control) to give us a generally good life. I mean, the biggest issue we have is the sheer new things we need that no other ship needs, and how relatively new most of the department is (I'd argue that over 50% of the department is straight out of prototype)
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orange juche posted:Dual 50 club checkin in, that thing was loving amazing to shoot while we were in the gulf. It's good to be friends with gunner's mates when they have ammo that needs to be used. It feels like the loving thunder of god going off right in front of you Most MK 19 stories end with "And then I somehow launched a shell about 400 yards further than I meant because gently caress those sights and now some Iraqi dude got himself a car port instead of a guest bedroom"
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Oct 24, 2014 21:53
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orange juche posted:Anyone in here shot a Mk. 19? That one's on my list of things I really want to shoot. Hollywood ruined my expectations- you see giant-fireball-explosions and then you get to the range expecting to see that only to find out it's a huge disappointment. That said, it's kinda cool hearing it "thunk" away. Scary part is if immediate/remedial action is applied and catching a projectile made by the lowest bidder. TsarAleksi posted:but it's pretty common to see a first term sailor with 2 or more NAMs prior to tranfer. I have still to see a NAM from my first term and it wasn't for lack of [actual hard] work.
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germskr posted:Hollywood ruined my expectations- you see giant-fireball-explosions and then you get to the range expecting to see that only to find out it's a huge disappointment. My first NAM was my last. Got it 7 days into Separation Leave.
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Vriess posted:My first NAM was my last. I never got mine. LPO was such a piece of poo poo. I mean, I never wanted it, but the fact that she left that poo poo sitting makes me SO ANGRY.
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Speaking of NAM stories (prototype command BTW), we had one girl get a NAM because there were a bunch of students drunk at a Dennys and she checked on them, told them not to raise hell, and made sure they had a safe way home. NAM. Buddy of mine was hanging out at a friends house with kids and a pool. Looks down and sees a kid at the bottom of the pool. Dives in, brings the kid out, gives him CPR and the kid starts breathing again. NAM. Man, what a large scope a NAM has for acceptability.
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itsrobbiej posted:Speaking of NAM stories (prototype command BTW), we had one girl get a NAM because there were a bunch of students drunk at a Dennys and she checked on them, told them not to raise hell, and made sure they had a safe way home. NAM. lol yeah saving an infants life isn't worthy of a nam. that poo poo needs a COM. Homegirl deserves a nam for hitting all the checkpoints for safe alcohol use. poo poo isn't a bronze star or anything Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 16:55
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Oct 25, 2014 16:57
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Saw a bunch of airmen get NAMs for phoning in some Navy ball poo poo, followed by a bunch of EOT LOCs for production supervisors. Same award ceremony. Nothing surprises me, really.
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I don't have any NAMs and hah gently caress trying to go out of the way to get one. If a NAM finds me it won't be because I went out looking to get one. Didn't they take away the award points for NAMs on the advancement exam anyways? Or was that the Good Conduct medal?
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orange juche posted:I don't have any NAMs and hah gently caress trying to go out of the way to get one. If a NAM finds me it won't be because I went out looking to get one. Didn't they take away the award points for NAMs on the advancement exam anyways? Or was that the Good Conduct medal? It was the GCM
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Nick Soapdish posted:It was the GCM GCM: "Congrats on exceeding our expectations, you reprehensible proletariat hoi polloi scumbag! Good job showering regularly unlike the rest of the
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I kind of enjoy end-of-tour awards boards. Not so much slap fighting over who gets a NAM for being a CFL or whatever, but once you get to the bottom of the list and the suggestions come out for the shitbags. Handshake of appreciation? Maybe a Chief LOC? We don't want anything printed on the fancy paper, normal printer paper is fine.
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Unless I get a point or two towards my advancement idgaf As someone who has never been NJP'd the whole no points for good cookie is kind of lame but whatever
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The percentage of Sailors getting NJP is way down from the old days, so if almost everyone has good conduct medals, it kind of makes sense to drop it from consideration. Besides, with the way poo poo works nowadays, if you get a NJP in your first term you're pretty much hosed and getting booted out via C-WAY.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I kind of enjoy end-of-tour awards boards. Not so much slap fighting over who gets a NAM for being a CFL or whatever, but once you get to the bottom of the list and the suggestions come out for the shitbags. Handshake of appreciation? Maybe a Chief LOC? We don't want anything printed on the fancy paper, normal printer paper is fine. EOT FLOC represent.
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Commands have a weird sense to what the people within them want. Prime example: Sets up retarded barracks clean-up when the barracks are already cleaned by broke dicks from base commands. Regardless of if the patient is wrong, the patient is always right. Sets up watch in an empty building because "you never know when the cleaning people are going to collapse", has automated fire alarms/boiler gauges/immunizations locker monitor but they must be checked in such a way that the duty driver checks them and not someone that's actually in charge of that equipment and trained on its maintenance. All clinics mandated to have people answering phones at the same time as central appointment hotline, because you never know when they may transfer the patient to the clinic directly. This would be fine, if some of the clinics on the list weren't referral only clinics and closed off to the dependents that usually are awake at 5 AM to get their narcotics. Having what appears to be rank favoritism, where an E-3 is held and punished to a higher standard than someone at E-5.  "But why are you guys hating the Navy so much? Don't worry it's different at other commands!"
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I think my favorite response to any complaint about command climate was, "There are worse commands to be at. You're lucky not be at one of those." Is that really the right metric to be going by?
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DustyNuts posted:The percentage of Sailors getting NJP is way down from the old days, so if almost everyone has good conduct medals, it kind of makes sense to drop it from consideration. Besides, with the way poo poo works nowadays, if you get a NJP in your first term you're pretty much hosed and getting booted out via C-WAY. Yeah. Concern is that with perform to serve, etc. giving a guy NJP is a death sentence. It used to be a fairly effective way to just correct someone that was a little messed up but had potential.
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Pandasmores posted:Commands have a weird sense to what the people within them want. Prime example: I got my master chief to admit that the only reason we still had watch sections is that the chief's mess felt like sailors should stand duty. We sat at a desk and transferred people to a nursing advice line or the ER depending on what was wrong (which could be easily and more efficiently handled with a phone tree), did an hourly wander around the building (which was also externally patrolled by USMC base security and contract base police, whatever they were called) and recorded numbers off a bunch of gauges (all of which were automatically recorded by a computer system that would call the contract maintenance people if they were outside of the normal values). Three people at a time, 4 hour watches (plus two hour long duty musters and overnight on-call) every six days. Obviously, this is an absurdly easy duty, but still. The whole point of the duty section existing was to have people be on a duty section. Boggles the mind how anybody ever reenlists.
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ActusRhesus posted:Yeah. Concern is that with perform to serve, etc. giving a guy NJP is a death sentence. It used to be a fairly effective way to just correct someone that was a little messed up but had potential. To be fair, an NJP is the kiss of death for your career pretty much. You may have good evals, 2 pins etc and be a supervisor over a bunch of people, but if you get an NJP, then your spot will go to the guy who does the same thing as you, without the NJP. The chiefs usually try to handle the minor fuckups at DRB, if it's a decent CPO mess. The return gently caress ups after having a DRB cut them slack and recommend dismissal of charges have earned the NJP. orange juche fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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orange juche posted:To be fair, an NJP is the kiss of death for your career pretty much. You may have good evals, 2 pins etc and be a supervisor over a bunch of people, but if you get an NJP, then your spot will go to the guy who does the same thing as you, without the NJP. yeah, that was my point. NJP numbers are down because conventional wisdom says, if you want them to have any prayer of staying in, you can't give them an NJP.
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krispykremessuck posted:kill all YN2s Counterpoint: NCCs put in charge of YN2s should be first against the wall. How is the rate supposed to manage all the other rates' careers objectively the worst in the entire Navy?
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Octopode posted:How is the rate supposed to manage all the other rates' careers objectively the worst in the entire Navy? Because their oversight is managed by another NC and nobody else. Our last two sucked, and a lot of people got hosed over. Our current one currently translates all requests to Tagalog and the replies back to English which probably explains why our most qualified personnel didn't get their extension requests in on time. Also, this NC managed to take English literally when she plugged her phone in to the back USB port on the SIPR computer and when asked why she plugged in a PED to a computer that had a sticker on the front saying "Do not plug PEDs into USB ports" only applied to the front. Nevermind the fact that there was a PED in the SIPR room to begin with. Go Navy.
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Idk my NCC is pretty decent, she put in my c-way approximately 30 minutes after I dropped the evals on her desk. That's pretty much the fastest turnaround time I have ever seen for anything in the navy, so maybe she doesn't go up against the wall.
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If your NCC had the correct BOL access she wouldn't have needed copies of your evals. I submit C-WAY without any input from the Sailor except a signature on 1 sheet of paper. Boom. If the NCC wasn't prior Admin, they have no business running an Admin office. Too many NCs don't even know how to properly format a basic letter. Our community is consistently undermanned at E-6, which pressures us to admit people that may not really be good at the job. Hopefully these people will get fired and reverted back to their old job after their first 6 months - there are a few per year that do. That, and it attracts people that want to convert for the wrong reasons (100% advancement to NC1). We have a new NC school curriculum and there's actually student attrition this time around, which is an amazingly good thing. Sorry if you have/had a lovely Career Counselor. If you need something and don't trust your CCC, just ask here and I'll try to get you an answer.
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DustyNuts posted:If your NCC had the correct BOL access she wouldn't have needed copies of your evals. I submit C-WAY without any input from the Sailor except a signature on 1 sheet of paper. Boom. Let me tell you about my NC1 that is actually a Tomahawk tech. Also I'm going to second what DustyNuts said about him helping you out. He was super helpful when I was transferring my GI Bill benefits to dependents when my admin office told me to basically get hosed.
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Wait hold on there's career counselors that actually hold the rating?! Where do these exist? I love how Dusty is our resident Navy admin dude that solves poo poo in one post that we spend months arguing with our chain of command back and forth about and getting all kinds of wrong answers from everyone.
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DustyNuts posted:If your NCC had the correct BOL access she wouldn't have needed copies of your evals. I submit C-WAY without any input from the Sailor except a signature on 1 sheet of paper. Boom. Counterpoint, my CCC is technically at a different command, I am under a separate UIC from about 85% of the people I work with because I am a detachment from Misawa. The billet is permanently allocated to where I am, but as a detachment, admin has to jump through a lot of poo poo to get me hooked up right. There should be a CCC for my det, but there isn't, so the NCC for the other command is the best I've got as far as that goes. She does a pretty decent job, as she actually cares about helping people. orange juche fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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It never ceases to amuse me that the Navy made enlisted careers so difficult too understand and manage that they had to create a rating and pay actual sailors to help.
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orange juche posted:The billet is permanently allocated to where I am, but as a detachment, admin has to jump through a lot of poo poo to get me hooked up right. This also baffles me. You're "from" Misawa, but not stationed there, permanently. WHY THE gently caress?
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Lol, apparently all my friends that get BAH at their other commands say that barracks manning is never anywhere near the percentage for manning, the commands are actively looking for people to get out of the barracks just to not have to deal with barracks room failures so it's not loving over their weekends reinspecting. Meanwhile, my chit is sitting in a folder in the admin office where an RP2 is running things over the YNAN waiting to up 1% to meet the 95% manning. There's a bunch of chits behind mine, but it's the next one up to go to the CMCs desk and even though the CMC has signed off on 2 others, they haven't gone to the base CO in god knows how long. Doesn't surprise me that you guys have NCs that have no business handling important paperwork, hell the Navy's drug counselors are primarily from non-medical ratings and last I heard they were trying to make it an NEC for NCs. I guess having people that get the NEC and then booting them out because they can't compete with other people when the C-Way or whatever the hell it is comes up/don't make Chief because they aren't working in their rating any more. Also Poopkitty lol, you can get stationed in Gitmo but if you go there from another command you're considered "deployed" hahahaha.
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Pandasmores posted:Also Poopkitty lol, you can get stationed in Gitmo but if you go there from another command you're considered "deployed" hahahaha. JAG was giving IA deployment credit to people working out of DC. *eyeroll* Actual e-mail sent to another JAG "Congratulations on answering your nation's call and volunteering for this very dangerous billet. Would you be interested in subletting my condo while I am in Iraq? Please respond soonest, and God Speed."
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Pandasmores posted:Lol, apparently all my friends that get BAH at their other commands say that barracks manning is never anywhere near the percentage for manning, the commands are actively looking for people to get out of the barracks just to not have to deal with barracks room failures so it's not loving over their weekends reinspecting. Meanwhile, my chit is sitting in a folder in the admin office where an RP2 is running things over the YNAN waiting to up 1% to meet the 95% manning. There's a bunch of chits behind mine, but it's the next one up to go to the CMCs desk and even though the CMC has signed off on 2 others, they haven't gone to the base CO in god knows how long. Honest question. Why are their drug counselors if it's a zero tolerance Navy? Do they only help with legal drug misuse?
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poopkitty posted:This also baffles me. You're "from" Misawa, but not stationed there, permanently. WHY THE gently caress? Now you know how I feel.
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