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Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

Paramemetic posted:

So I have a mostly useless undergrad, I'm a firefighter / hazardous materials technician but I'm not paid to do those things. I am more interested in operations and management than the actual technician work, but enjoy all of it. Unfortunately I'm stuck in the hole of being trained but not experienced outside some pill counting and ems jobs. Mostly I'm a guy who is voluntarily between careers and wants a mid level supervisory tier job, but I'm also married with a house and poo poo so welp.

Today I got it in my head to look at military side of the disaster response / preparedness / safety and inspection career path instead of the civilian side, and I know coast guard does a bunch of that stuff. I don't want to talk to a recruiter yet because my experience when I was considering enlisting before is that recruiters are more persistent than debt collectors once they have your info.

I realize everyone is generally salty about their .mil jobs but if you don't mind humoring me, do jobs in environmental protection and hazmat safety and such exist at the officer level in the CG? How about for reservists? Should I just pursue a highly competitive GS job harder? Is this complete idiot thinking?

I realize this is a thread for guys who are already in but I don't see a recruitment / questions for dudes who have not made decisions yet thread.

I would recommend against enlisting. If you do, expect a couple of years of being a non rate and being treated like poo poo while making little money. The Marine Science Technician seems like it might be a good job, but the wait for it I think is couple years long. You are better off trying to go Officer or even better, getting a GS job. With a GS job you would at least have options to move to a different job later on at your discretion. There are officer paths that deal with environmental and ship inspections, but noble career paths are still a mystery to me. I would at least expect a year as an ensign on a cutter as a big probability. With a degree, your best bet would probably be getting a civilian job with uscg or noaa.

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Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

UWBW posted:

Bwahaha, yeah, that's me. I didn't really get any response so I thought I'd search over here.


Oh lord there's so much.

What can you expect to be put through in Basic training?
What's the most common thing that coasties get called out for?
I have a degree, and I'd love to be an IT specialist, electronics technician, or since I have experience with cameras (working for Universal) maybe a Public Affairs Specialist. Do I have a shot in hell at any of those positions?
I plan on speaking with a recruiter next month. What's some bullshit he might try to pull on me?

Basic is not that bad. Standard stuff, classes, running, whole lots of marching around and waiting quietly.

If you have a degree apply for OCS first, unless you are about to live on the street or something. There is a whole world of difference between the lives of officers and non rates. You will be treated as a kid while being a non rate. Nobody will give a gently caress about your degree and you will be given the littlest amount of responsibility while being overworked. Add on top of that a fairly standard chance that you will be put in a stupid and toxic command.

Unless you sign up to go as a guaranteed a school cook or radio guy, all enlisted start as non rates. After 3 months in your first unit and after finishing your basic unit qualifications you can put your name on the A school list. Each school has a different amount of wait time, from 4 months for something like BM to 3 years for schools like MST and PA.

Public Affairs is a tiny field. If you are willing to wait like 3 or 4 years as a non rate you might get in. Expect to travel a lot.

All the ITs I met seemed fairly content. There are some ITs on cutters, but they are mostly on land I think.

Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

UWBW posted:

Good info to know.

What's the most common thing the coast guard gets called in to do?

It depends where you are stationed.

Big cutters go on deployments while small boat stations do on call search and rescue. If you are at a sector you will not be called to do anything unless you get hit by a hurricane.

If you are an IT, you might be called to help with support to set up disaster response centers.

It all depends on your job, type of unit, and location. Aircrew and Boatwains (along with MEs and engineers) do most of what people consider Coast Guard to be. Others are support. Officers manage and get paid a lot.

If you tell me exactly what you want to do I could tell you what steps you need to take in to make it happen.

Rbear fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Oct 21, 2016

Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

UWBW posted:

I think IT might be up my alley. I love technology and software stuff, and I was one course away from a CS minor. I have a tech support job, so I think that might count for something. Plus, so many jobs in IT. So many.

It would look like something like this.

Enlist-> Boot camp (2 months)-> First unit (3 months + ~8 months wait for IT A school). Go to A school, make E-4, go to new unit as IT. Though with a degree I would still recommend officer route. Maybe you will not get to do any IT, but its more money with a better standard of living.

Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

UWBW posted:

Since I've got a degree, I have the option of going in as an officer.

What are the major differences between officer duties and enlisted men/women's duties? What do people look for in an officer?

Asking because I was speaking with my landlord, a navy man who eventually became an army ranger, and he put the absolute fear of god into me about being an officer. It sounds awful, and it sounds like everyone below you hates you.

If you act like a normal human who cares about people working for him, they will not hate you. If you are a hateable person, they will hate you as enlisted too.

Officer manage subordinates (Paperwork, setting up training) and are assigned to different duties (Navigation, Boat Boardings, Damage Control, Vessel inspections etc.) As you move up in ranks you manage more people and become more hands off on day to day missions.

OCS applications look at GPA, recommendation letters, resume, volunteer work helps. It is what you can bring to the organization. Personal responsibility is also important.

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Rbear
Jul 30, 2014

UWBW posted:

Is that all in one day? Like, do I run the 1.5 and then immediately start the pushups?

Push ups, sit ups, and the run are all in one go. The swimming section is on a different day. It is really easy.

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