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nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Elendil004 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmllwTKtqU

A completely unbelievable story if not for the fact that it happened. 36500 is still around too, which is impressive (albeit maintained by the aux).

Yeah they brought the 36500 over to woods hole as it made its way around a few years ago. Just to think how they stuck so many people in there was pretty impressive.

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nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

What the gently caress is up with these god drat nonrates with anthropology degrees that some how think the college makes them special. I just had one ask me not to call him a dude because he identified as gender neutral. :wtc:

Hahaha that's loving hilarious.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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So does that mean you're in charge of one person?

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

Looks like I'm going to England.

Sounds like it should be a cool experience at least. MK I'm guessing?

Just heard that now if you're above the cut for E-7, it's going to be a requirement to go to Chief's Academy prior to putting on the anchors :chiefsay: .

We're so loving Navy and we don't even know it-isn't that what they do with Navy365 or whatever the gently caress they call it?

edit: Oh, and now doing your PCS travel claim through TPAX is going to be a thing...because really, the YN's had one loving job after they disposed of all their other duties, so they decided to stop doing the one travel claim they had to do, so now it will be on you. I guess they do weigh-ins and bitch about that 2 months out of the year.

nwin fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 20, 2015

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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De Nomolos posted:

Gonna jump in here. I was GS at HQ, but we moved for family reasons. I'm considering the reserve route now, because I miss that job and we have a number of billets open nearby at Eliz. City or Portsmouth. I actually tried to do AFROTC in college but was advised against it at the time since I'd taken antidepressants in high school (that's not an issue anymore and I'm 31). I thinking (hoping) that with my experience in the GS equivalent of storekeeper or yeoman, I could qualify at the least for the Direct Entry PO program and hopefully qualify E4.

My only issue at this point is how selective things are right now. Not that CG is facing the draw down the other branches are facing, but it's a small force and I assume I'll need to stand out in some way. I'm physically ready right now and frankly I should have done this when I was working GS.

Anyone else gone in this route?

They still have the direct entry program? I've never known anyone that went in that way.

So are you going to try and get a GS job down in elizabeth city and also drill at one of those units as a reservist?

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Paramemetic posted:

So I have a mostly useless undergrad, I'm a firefighter / hazardous materials technician but I'm not paid to do those things. I am more interested in operations and management than the actual technician work, but enjoy all of it. Unfortunately I'm stuck in the hole of being trained but not experienced outside some pill counting and ems jobs. Mostly I'm a guy who is voluntarily between careers and wants a mid level supervisory tier job, but I'm also married with a house and poo poo so welp.

Today I got it in my head to look at military side of the disaster response / preparedness / safety and inspection career path instead of the civilian side, and I know coast guard does a bunch of that stuff. I don't want to talk to a recruiter yet because my experience when I was considering enlisting before is that recruiters are more persistent than debt collectors once they have your info.

I realize everyone is generally salty about their .mil jobs but if you don't mind humoring me, do jobs in environmental protection and hazmat safety and such exist at the officer level in the CG? How about for reservists? Should I just pursue a highly competitive GS job harder? Is this complete idiot thinking?

I realize this is a thread for guys who are already in but I don't see a recruitment / questions for dudes who have not made decisions yet thread.

Speaking mainly from the Officer's side of things...yes there are jobs which you could work on the management side of those things, but it's very niche and not at all guaranteed. The other thing to look at is, unless you want to do a couple years for some experience and then get out, you're going to have to make yourself well-rounded in that career path to stay competitive to get your 20 years in.

So yeah, jobs in environmental protection and hazmat do exist-one route you might consider is going OCS-then trying to get a Response-Ashore job lined up, either working in the Incident Management Division (IMD) (Pollution response and being a representative of the Federal On Scene Coodinator during major spills) or getting a job on one of the Strike Teams (Atlantic, Pacific, or Gulf) where you deploy to major spills and are on call. With these, like I said, it's niche, and you would be expected to fulfill other duties. Like if you went IMD at a Sector, you're not just managing the pollution division; they'll expect you to qualify in the Command Center as the Operations Unit or Command Duty Officer, both of which are required in that specific career path.

For reservists it's a complete crapshoot as an Officer-you're essentially just trying to manage the reservists and you will rarely if ever utilize your qualifications but instead ensure that your personnel are getting qualified.

It seems more likely that if you went for a GS Job, your position description would enable you to take a much more direct line at what your job is. None of the Officer stuff to deal with and collateral duties-instead you do your main job. Not too sure of any CG-related jobs that would offer HAZMAT, etc., like you are looking for though.

nwin fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Dec 15, 2015

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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I honestly have no clue...you pulled it up using that new site right? Joint transcript request or something?

My uneducated guess would be that your electives will be fulfilled and not much else.

I would assume it depends on the school. My guess is that AMU or Excelsior would waive a ton of classes to get you to waste your money there, where if you submitted your transcript to Harvard they would laugh. That's a complete shot in the dark though.

Are you still going overseas to that exchange program?

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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In other news, Yorktown still blows.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Wow that blows-sorry to hear that.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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#learntofuckingfloss

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Elendil004 posted:

I'm still fighting with the VA about how bad CG dental was when I got out. Just got my senator involved but even he's stonewalling me.

Maybe if you hadn't eaten your way out of the CG, your teeth wouldn't have been so bad.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Elendil004 posted:

That might have been preferable. Although I don't know if weight programming out would have meted an honorable so maybe not.

Haha yeah I dunno-I think they keep their 9/11 gi bill.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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It's funny going to the Chief's Mess now for beers, because holy poo poo are some of these guys loving alcoholics who hate everything.

Krispy-SK question for you. Have you ever heard that you need to be designated in writing by the CO of the unit in order to have business cards? I'm not just talking having legit cards ordered for you, I'm talking even being able to get the printer paper cardstock that you can print your own cards with. Apparently the CWO F&S is adamant about it. If I wasn't TAD I'd just go in there and ask where in the FRRM or other policy is says that. If it is legit, it's no big deal, I plan on just making a huge loving memo with everyone's name on it and watching the Captain laugh while they sign it.

nwin fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 20, 2016

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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krispykremessuck posted:

So while it does say that the CO's determination is required, I'm going to say that in my opinion it doesn't rise to the level of individuals needing to be designated specifically in writing. As an example, to meet the requirement of the CO having determined, a note, local instruction, or e-mail (it counts) saying, "These positions in the [whatever] Division have a mission requirement to interface with the public sector, and shall be authorized to locally produce business cards."

There may be further guidance in the HSAR, SAP Handbook, and other places, but typically they all mirror the same thing. Keep in mind, most SKs, including F&S warrants have no actual background or experience in budget execution beyond the actual procurement actions. They tend to make poo poo up based on hearsay or policies that haven't been updated (or worse, cancelled) or superseded. If you confront them on this, they'll try to weasel around it or worse stonewall based on being the last line in the sand. In that case, take it up to the district budget officer, or if you're under a different sponsoring agency, take it to the area or HQ level.

Coast Guard poo poo isn't really my wheelhouse anymore, but Budget Execution sure as gently caress is, and 99% of people in the SK rating have no loving clue how appropriated funding works / is designed to work. They're mostly just button-pushers.

This is awesome-thanks.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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krispykremessuck posted:

The memo, e-mail, or whatever could be even more vague. It could just acknowledge that the M Division (I'm guessing) has a generally externally-facing job and requires perforated card-stock. It's likely that the people in the supply office have literally no idea what you guys do, since they probably never leave their bubble. Procurement poo poo is pretty checklist driven at his point, they may already have a space on the checklist for that, which in that case they could just walk the PR over to the command office and ask for the CO's signature. They're making it into a bigger deal than it is, but it's because the person in charge is scared to deal with it.

But yeah -- if they didn't provide you with the actual guidance/policy (verbatim), that's a garbage response from supply. I suggest bringing that up at the next staff meeting. It was a big problem when I was in, and it was a big problem here when I first took this job. Policy questions should be answered with policy. Not an interpretation of policy, not what they think. The policy itself. At that point an interpretation of the policy can be made -- but those can and probably should be challenged if the interpretation doesn't stack up with the wording.

Yeah, he just got there this summer and he's very into policy, but it's good to see it should be a simple fix of just drafting a memo for the CO's signature that says we're acting in that capacity.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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ElMaligno posted:

the same could be asked about the other mil academies.

And academies/colleges in general. Kids are going to try and cheat to make things easier.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Nice, my CDO board is Monday.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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UWBW posted:

Coming to this thread for advice...

I'm in my early 20s, have a mostly useless degree in communication, and thanks to traveling to a few other countries I'm feeling like I could do better than my current dead-end IT job. I've been around boats my whole life, and I live on one of the great lakes, about a mile from my local CG station.

Where can I get some real-talk about life in the coast guard, without bias?

What do you want to know?

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Alright, so there's more to the coast guard than just search and rescue...if you're at a sector, there are a variety of ratings and jobs out there as well (marine science technician does pollution response and vessel inspections for compliance, also deals with waterways management ensuring permits are filed correctly, etc).

The IT route? You can be an IT, sure. Advancement is slow in that rating because there aren't a lot of them and the ones that are in, stay in. Your first tour or two would deal with standard IT stuff: phones, computers...no real networking or anything more than likely.

If you go the officer route, the only way you are guaranteed IT is if you go direct commission (DCO). You would need an IT degree more than likely, but it may be an option for you.

Tons of stuff out there, but if you're into IT and that's it, then there are your options.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Dingleberry posted:

Anybody have any thoughts on the civie side marine inspector positions?

Yeah I work with them pretty routinely. Are you talking about the CAMI (civilian apprentice marine inspector) positions or the ones that start as gs-12? I've got insight into both.

The CAMI is a good program, with some caveats. You start as a gs-7 in a bigger port and once you earn enough quals, you get gs-12, but they will move you to somewhere they need a gs-12...you may only have a few choices to choose from. If you go in as a gs-12, then you'll generally stay in that location.

What do you want to know?

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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UWBW posted:

Since I've got a degree, I have the option of going in as an officer.

What are the major differences between officer duties and enlisted men/women's duties? What do people look for in an officer?

Asking because I was speaking with my landlord, a navy man who eventually became an army ranger, and he put the absolute fear of god into me about being an officer. It sounds awful, and it sounds like everyone below you hates you.

My general thought is people are people...there's bad and good enlisted just like officers. Treat people the way you want to be treated. Sounds like your landlord had some bad experiences.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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UWBW posted:

His basic thesis was "If you become an officer without enlisting first, you will get no respect."

Not true at all-it's how you carry yourself.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Dingleberry posted:

I applied at a west coast port and got a call back on it; I'm considering it at this point but wondering what the schedule is like. Do they allow compressed/alt work schedules(i.e. 10 hour days 4 days a week or do they keep it 8 hours five days?
Reason I ask is my primary residence is one and a half to two hours drive from the USCG office. I own a condo 25-30 minutes from the office. My plan would be to live at the condo like a monk(no cable, focus on work, exercise/lift for recreation) during the work week and go home weekends and the occasional weekday and suck up the drive... having the mrs, two little ones, and dogs and cats in condo would not be feasible. I think my wife would be fine with me being gone most of the week(she was used to me sailing and I think we got along better when I was gone more ) If I could do 4 tens say, it'd be better as I'd get more time with the kiddos which is truly important to me...
Up until recently I was sailing as a merchant mariner(tugs as a mate then mate on hopper dredges) then took a job doing something completely different.
Don't really want to get back to sailing per se but would like to get back into something related.
I know it's the gs-7 apprentice deal to start...

That's going to be unit specific and I'd recommend asking for the Position Description for the job. Based on what I've seen at two separate units now, that hasn't happened. The general workday is something like 7-3:30, and as a civilian, you're kept held to those standards.

Generally as a gs-7, they expect you there five days a week and to get qual'ed up. However, there are telework agreements available and some places may allow for flex schedules.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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UWBW posted:

What do Coasties do when they aren't out saving lives? Sit around reading books? Serious question.

Also, I've heard Officers are given a poo poo-ton of work, and the job is hard as hell until you get up the food chain. What exactly does an officer do that enlisted men can't/won't?

We have a lot of different missions besides search and rescue, so let's take your station at the great lakes for example...

When they don't have an active case going on, they could be training or conducting maintenance on the boats. They could also be out doing recreational boat boardings as part of the law enforcement mission. They could also be out on the boats doing armed escorts of large ferries in your area, things like that. If there's none of that to do, they might be studying for the next advancement test.

Who are you hearing about the Officer thing from? The reason I ask is because 'it's hard as hell until you get up the food chain' couldn't be farther from the truth. Higher ranking officers are often working longer hours and have even more responsibility than a lower ranking Officer.

Again, related to all the different missions we do, it's going to change what Officers vs. Enlisted do.

Officers will never be at small boat stations, except for some of the large (think New York, D.C., or Seattle) stations, and even then, it will only be the Commanding Officer and MAYBE the Executive Officer in charge of the unit that will be officers.

For search and rescue, Officers can fly the planes...there are enlisted personnel who service the planes and jump out of them though. Officers will generally be in charge of the larger boats (110' and above), where enlisted will not.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-duty-careers/enlisted-opportunities/advance-through-training

Men will be expected to perform:
29 push-ups in 60 seconds
38 sit-ups in 60 seconds
Run 1.5 miles in under 12:51
Sit and Reach 16.50"
Complete a swim circuit
Tread water for 5 minutes
Jump off a 5-foot platform and swim 100 meters

40 deaths in 2014 seems crazy high...maybe in the last 20 years or something...the main people that die in the line of duty seem to be aviators though.

Edit: Jesus Christ I don't think we've changed our PT requirements since before when I joined in 2006.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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God drat am I sick of Virginia...3 more loving weeks.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Crash74 posted:

throw a hamburger at a bm1 in the parking lot of the liberty lounge and get an alcohol incident lol

haha did that happen when you were here for something? I try and stay far and away from the liberty lounge these days.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Yo

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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My life's not too bad-got picked up for grad school so I'll be doing that for the next two years.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Good because I wasn't about to go in and help you.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Elendil004 posted:

I figured the guy who just got qualified would have known it.

All I saw was your name and that you were asking for something and had a blanket denial statement typed out.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

We need a new thread someone do the honors because i cant figure out how on this loving awful app

Yep, I can't figure poo poo out in this app, either. If no one else makes one, then I'll try tomorrow or the next day :effort:

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

Id almost rather keep this one rolling we are what nine pages deep after a year. Id say gently caress it if you cant read nine pages you probably shouldn't post. Maybe a thread refresh once a decade.:shrug:

gently caress it-might as well keep it then.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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drat you haven't been an SU that long, but OU will be good. Guessing they're losing people for transfer season and want to qual people up.

All done with CDO myself-total qualified watches:4 haha. They sure got a good return on investment there!

Just sifting through grad schools now-been accepted to every one I applied for, so just time to make a decision on where I want to be for the next two years.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

Whose ready for a 13% budget cut.

I picked a hell of a time to get picked up for grad school!

I at least hope our pay and BAH stay in-line with DoD...that would be a cluster if anything like that were to change.

Edit: just imagine how pissed of ADM Z must be right now.

nwin fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 3, 2017

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Melthir posted:

All the Os are going to get turned into non rates and we are going to get rolled into the navy.

Well we can operate under the navy in times of war and one can only assume where we'll be in a year or two, so it's not exactly a stretch!

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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When I went a year ago we got out most days around 2 and sometimes before then if scenarios were wrapped up, but I talked to an OS that went through a few months ago and they nixed it.

Decent course overall.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Elendil004 posted:

nwin was stationed in Woodshole and I was stationed (and still live) one town over.

The area is decent, about an hour to Boston, traffic in the summer but plenty to do if you like beaches, boating, summer poo poo. Pretty dead off season but again not so far from a major city as to be a desert.

Yeah as an OS you'd be stuck in woods hole. The small town around it folds up during winter.

Wilmington is awesome. Great weather, college town, beautiful beaches and the water is great and warm. I'd go back in a second.

nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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Wilmington is awesome if you're single.

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nwin
Feb 25, 2002

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ElMaligno posted:

im too old for college girls.

Wilmington is awesome if you're single.

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