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PupsOfWar posted:On no account attempt to share this information with the white person, however. All federal statistics were made up by The Democrats to keep sheeple from realizing that they long ago sold the country to The Coloreds in exchange for illegal (for some reason) votes. One important thing I learned from following politics, it is that the data doesn't matter, no matter how overwhelming. Obviously this doesn't work for every political issue. It doesn't matter if violent crime has plummeted universally, yet rates of incarceration have increased. We still need to be tough on crime and treat people like animals. Oh, and run for-profit prisons. I'm sure there's no conflict for a company reliant on imprisoning people to lower recidivism among its inmates. It doesn't matter that there's a massive (>95%) consensus of climatologists, scientists and others who know that our planet is warming at an alarming rate and our oceans are acidifying. Don't you know it was cold yesterday and you could still buy Fish at the Long John's Silvers? It doesn't matter that voter fraud is statically insignificant. And that the majority of the population doesn't even give enough of a gently caress to vote, let alone commit a crime to do it more than once. Yet we need voter ID laws because they might try to put communists in the white house. It doesn't matter that the majority of school shooters and mass shooters are mentally ill and can secure easy access to weapons. If we restrict guns to anyone for even the most sensible of reasons, then the government will start taking all our guns. And mental illness is a personal weakness, gently caress treating these people. Having a modicum of intelligence is ridiculed and everything comes down to 'gut feelings'. It doesn't matter how much information you have, how compelling the evidence is, or even if you've conclusively disproved every one of their logical fallacies. They're still coming for your guns, crime is running rampant, voter fraud is a real thing and climate change is a liberal invention. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Triskelli posted:Okay, on a list of "Things that are killing americans" school shootings are as about as statisitically significant as deaths from Ebola, but the fact that we even have school shootings when other developed nations have few to none is important. We just need to move the discussion away from "no one should ever have guns" and "it's my right to be able to walk into Wal-mart and buy a shotgun no questions asked", and being able to intercept people buying them for emotional reasons. And yes, even if school and mass shootings are a drop in the bucket compared to other causes of death, everything in our power should be done to prevent them. Other societies with comparable levels of gun ownership never remotely see the amount that we do. And the laws put into place to make sure these things wouldn't happen would not impact normal gun ownership in the least (IE: don't sell guns to people with mental illness and institute a background check when you buy a gun). There are many people who see any restrictions on guns or even gun safety as fascist and the government coming to take their toys away (and for militias and red-dawn types, they are toys). See the people that invented the smart pistol and subsequently those who recieved death threats from just planning to sell it because it could maybe possibly somehow (not really) lead to an infringement on the second amendment. These are the people that would rather have a violent, paranoid schizophrenic walk into a gun store and buy an AR-15 than to restrict his access because they might be 'next'. All because of some idiotic fantasy that they might be able to hide in the woods and play red-dawn if the government ever becomes tyrannical to overthrow it. Hint: the government has drones with IR and can shove a patriot missile up your rear end before you can shout 'Socialism'. You wouldn't even see a new-world order UN trooper. They'd just kill your stupid, fat red-neck rear end with predator and reaper drones and laugh at you. But this reality does little to dissuade them, keeping their impotent revolutionary fantasies is more important than saving lives. And for the record, I'm not lumping all gun owners in with these assholes. I am for legitimate, responsible ownership. I'm not for idiots who poo poo themselves at their own shadow and need an M-60 to feel safe. And I wasn't only drawing attention to school and mass shootings, which happen far more than they should, but also to our mental health care system. As in, we don't have one. Since prisons and county jails now hold more mentally ill people than all mental institutions in this country. A lovely consequence of 'tough on crime', fighting health-care spending and our treatment of the homeless.
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