Trabisnikof posted:

They need to make a smaller serving table, that's what we are missing.

Lichtenstein posted:

I have a visitation room and six telephones, but everyone's just getting increasingly more angry about family matters. What is the obvious rookie mistake I might have done?

Megasabin posted:

I bought this game, did the tutorial, and feel completely lost on how to start a prison from scratch. I have no idea on what is required for even a basic working prison, what is a feasible building size to attempt right from the start, what areas are crucial and what aren't (warehouses? garbage dumps?), etc...

Admittedly the OP does warn the tutorial is terrible. What is the best way to actually learn to play this game and be able to build a prison from scratch? Is there a good LP series, should I just watch all the dev alpha videos in order, etc...?

Cemetry Gator posted:

Well, everything was going smoothly until my laundry room caught on fire.

I decided to sell my prison and let the next guy deal with hollowed out shell of a fire-damaged prison. I don't know what the inmates will do.

Note to self: disconnect laundry room from rest of prison.

DropsySufferer posted:

Pornographic Memory posted:

I've never had a prisoner use a lighter to set fire to my prison so I guess I stand corrected

Grapplejack posted:

Does anyone know of any traits to look for when trying to recruit a CI? And do you just dump them into solitary for a few days and hope for the best?
Also should I have toilets and beds in my solitary rooms

Nettle Soup posted:

Sometimes prisoners just hang around in the center of the room screaming about food and rioting when the food is right there.

Megasabin posted:

3. How do I prevent prisoners from running out of the holding cell when a guard opens the door to bring another prisoner in?

Coolguye posted:

With a potential option to add in a large Window ($200) to fight Freedom need increase,

ShootaBoy posted:

So I just started playing again the other day, and the new traits got a couple of prisoners killed pretty much straight away, so my 73 days with no incidents bonus went out the window. In response I've built a max sec wing with its own yard and canteen, but the janitors refuse to bring any clothing to the 3 guys in there. Any ideas why and/or solutions?

Fans posted:

They said anything on Gangs recently? I'm going to hop back on when those go in but they don't sound nearby.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Yeah, currently, the game starts to chug after a few hundred prisoners. Adding additional plots of land is usually the worst performance hit, but hopefully they do another performance-improvement pass one of these months.

nielsm posted:

Meanwhile, mine love to hang out at the Deliveries area, which is precisely where they are needed the least.

Cemetry Gator posted:

The only rule is no free range prisons. Fuckers will just make an escape attempt.

I trusted you guys. And you made a run for it the first chance you got.

superoxen posted:

Got the game a couple of days ago, and after about 8 hours of mostly dicking around with the planning tools and maybe 2 hours of actually building, I've settled on a block layout and schedule that seems to work pretty well.

One thing that's driving me crazy is that I apparently can't designate the area between the perimeter fence and the structures as staff-only - I guess because it's outdoors? I tried zoning it as a yard/storage and that didn't seem to make any difference. I had a couple of staff doors installed in the fences around the main walkway near the front gate, but my staff kept opening it for prisoners who decided to just bumble around out there for no reason, so I closed it off. I'd like to be able to set a guard dog to patrol the perimeter to check for tunnels. Is there some trick I can use to keep the guards from letting prisoners out there?

The REAL Gtab Fan posted:

The prisoners go into the room and idle until a serving table becomes available. If a prisoner is going across the room to grab a plate then the table is 'in use' by that prisoner. They can only be used by a couple of prisoners at a time. Once they grab a tray then it opens up.

Of course I am probably completely wrong but that's what it looks like to me but I am also dumb.

I usually put my serving tables right next to the entrances because of this.

StarMinstrel posted:

Is it possible to build more modern, communal cell blocks in this game? Say a block where you have a central lounge, bathroom and then separate rooms? All I see is individual 2x3 jail cells.

RattiRatto posted:

One think that bothers me is the fact that the teacher is always late. Since my classroom is not close to the entrance, it always start the lesson one hour late. Is there a way to make it arrive earlier?

nielsm posted:

A thing I only really learned about after getting involved in the bug tracker/dev forum for PA, is the TimeWarpFactor.

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

I keep running the same prisoner education class, a bunch of people have completed it but none have passed. What's the deal?

Pornographic Memory posted:

I'm making a new prison finally and the new features are pretty cool. I wish there was a way to clear this gigantic backlog of parole hearings, though - I've got four of them going a day but with ~150 prisoners, I've already got 34 prisoners looking to get paroled and counting.

Also the chapel makes it super easy to get prisoners with low recidivism rates, because each and every visit to a session of Spiritual Guidance counts as a completed reform program. It's a good thing only 1/3 of prisoners feel the need to worship or you could make fat stacks paroling guys and cheat your way to a good prison grade.

uXs posted:

As for tunneling prisoners, surround the cell blocks with perimeter walls, but leave a door open somewhere out of the way, and have dogs patrolling between the cell blocks and the outer door. They'll beeline for the 'gap' in the perimeter wall but your dogs will always find them.

RattiRatto posted:

Yea i tried that tactic as well, it really didn't work out very long, as the protective stance population dropped drastically. They only sleep at night.

What you can do is to build a separate cafeteria for the yellow people

quote:

- Prisoners in solitary confinement or locked-down in their own cells will now have meals brought to them
This should prevent prisoners starving to death in solitary.

tater_salad posted:

I don't have a shrink yet so I cant see tgeir needs I had like 5 dudes get injured because they were rioting.

I had all the basics... shower yard with bench food.. maybe I need a bigger canteen.

My struggle right now when playing is making my prison scalable to support more prisoners I make a kitchen then its a huge pain to make it bigger for more prisoners.

tater_salad posted:

I guess I didnt approach right.. I was more along the lines of sim city and keeping the same prison.. not sell prison build bigger one

Pornographic Memory posted:

A simple search is unlikely to uncover a tunnel unless the prisoner is in the act of digging it while the search is being performed. Order the toilets in the cells most likely to be the tunnels' origin dismantled - dismantling the toilet that is the starting point of a tunnel will reveal any connected tunnels 100% of the time.

Stereotype posted:

I'm annoyed that CIs don't warn you about them though. It should be harder to keep a huge escape tunnel that has been under construction for months by a whole cell block secret than the shank or the fork someone stole from the canteen that morning.

Senso posted:

Or Jacques Mesrine! Wait no, we need full-on escape attempts, even including outside help. By truck, by helicopter, by smuggling or disguise. That would be a good way to keep the player on its toes.

wilderthanmild posted:

I am noticing two distinct problems with prisoner behavior. One is that I had guards letting prisoners outside the prison walls, causing escapes. This was because I had a perimeter area with an entrance outside the prison, but not into the prison. I assume they are going to pick up contraband in that area, but when they notice they are outside, they flee. I was really confused the first couple times the guard in the "airlock" opened both loving doors to let a prisoner basically just run away.

Ellieanna posted:

So today, I noticed my prison cooks just refuse to cook meals.

I have food in the kitchen.
I have deleted and readded both the fridges and the cooker (stoves).
I have 1 space between the kitchen and the canteen.
I even created a second path from the entrance incase it was getting the food to the kitchen.

My cooks just refuse to cook meals. Ever.

I have flipped 1 of my serving tables incase they were backwards.

I checked the logistics to see if that was the issue, it won't let me draw a line to my cell areas, but to an area that is connected, and I can only draw to 1 spot. This spot happens to be in my chapel. It's the only spot I can connect it. No matter where I click, it goes to that spot.


I can't seem to figure out how to fix this, but the riots from starvation is getting annoying. Anyone have any ideas? It used to work the last time I played, and I haven't changed my style at all. They were making meals in the beginning of this prison with this layout. When the logistics ability appeared, they stopped working and now I can't seem to fix it.