Prison Architect - Raid Boss Level Prisoners

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Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

a worthy uhh posted:

Yeah, I didn't get as far into the plan as 'amenities'. It was more of a quick experiment to see if solo canteens was viable. Next round is going to be a real try. And that's going to all go in the Yard. They'll spend basically all day in the Yard minus Eat and Sleep. That way the staff can clean the cell/provide laundry without possibly crossing into the prisoner.

Does anyone know if Janitors try to clean an indoor yard? Or is that what a Groundskeeper would do?

They need to make a smaller serving table, that's what we are missing.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2014 17:54

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 10:53

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Pornographic Memory posted:

That sounds pretty awesome, especially when it turns into an anticlimax five minutes later when they're forced to go through the metal detector to leave the workshop, have it confiscated, and it's thrown in the trash.

Enchanted weapons shouldn't be so easily destroyed. Instead it is stolen by the guard for their own use.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2014 19:23

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Solartide posted:

So I'm actually posting this from a supermax in our state, how customizable is the archtecture? The screenshots I'm seeing have only rectangular buildings, can I recreate my irregularly shaped prison in the game?

Yeah, this happens here from time to time.

We've had guys on "hunger strike" for months at a time.

Its a square grid so no curved walls but you place the foundation, walls, etc in whatever shapes you want.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2014 21:27

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Solartide posted:

Well here is our prison, can we make this?

http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/visitors/images/aerialShots/SAC_8x10.jpg

No guard towers yet alas!

# ¿ Oct 8, 2014 21:36

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Solartide posted:

Oh that's kind of a deal breaker, that's where we fire warning shots from when we see a riot brewing.

Instead your armed guards just have to tough it out and walk around in the same physical space as prisoners. Makes riots more exciting!

# ¿ Oct 8, 2014 21:41

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Vahakyla posted:

I really hope this goon is a prisoner in the prison and not a guard. Would be really cool to imagine him using his computer or the communal computer inside the prison to playing prison games.

That would give special significance to the desire to model his prison in PA....

# ¿ Oct 8, 2014 22:23

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Solartide posted:

One more question-

Are there lethal voltage electric fences in the game?

Nope but prisoners don't climb regular fences (but they dig under) so you can pretend they are lethal.

This makes me want to have climbing fences be a thing. Let it freak the guards so if you try and climb out of the yard you're getting taken down before you make it off the fence, but if the guards aren't nearby...

# ¿ Oct 8, 2014 22:32

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

super fart shooter posted:

Well, there are a few issues that I've noticed... One is that once a prisoner enrolls in a reform program, they'll continue to attend sessions until the whole thing finishes. Even if you change their security level or schedule so that they don't have work at that time slot, they'll actually break regime and go to the program anyway. Also, prisoners will get referred into behavioral/substance abuse therapy programs even if they don't have time for it in their schedule, and again, they'll break regime to attend. I'm not sure if these are bugs or not, but there's nothing you can do to stop them. Another problem is that all prisoners are allowed to go to visitation if someone is there for them.

So basically, all this stuff means that your supermax and PC's will have lots of excuses to go and mingle with the general population, which is exactly what these security classifications are supposed to prevent. Even worse is that once they get out of their isolation unit, they may end up wandering to the wrong yard, shower or canteen, and spend the whole day in the wrong part of the prison.

The only way to prevent this is to completely seal them off with staff-only zones, and make their cell block self-sufficient. It sucks, because some of those guys could actually use the therapy programs, but there's just way to let them go that doesn't completely defeat the purpose of putting them in that security level to begin with.

Can you make them use a supermax only classroom/psych office?

# ¿ Oct 9, 2014 21:10

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Lichtenstein posted:

I have a visitation room and six telephones, but everyone's just getting increasingly more angry about family matters. What is the obvious rookie mistake I might have done?

Can they get to the visitation rooms? Check to make sure your hallway there isn't staff only or something.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2014 22:44

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Away all Goats posted:

Grants. Open the reports folder and then the grants tab. Accept the 'Basic Detention Center' and 'Administration Center' grants and just follow those. Once you complete both you will have enough facilities to accept your first truckload of prisoners. Continue to complete the grants while you occasionally allow more prisoners into your prison. Remember you can completely turn off the flow of prisoners if you feel overwhelmed.

Do this and get a psychologist so that you can look at the needs chart and use the needs chart to catch anything you've forgotten to provide.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2014 03:39

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Cemetry Gator posted:

Well, everything was going smoothly until my laundry room caught on fire.

I decided to sell my prison and let the next guy deal with hollowed out shell of a fire-damaged prison. I don't know what the inmates will do.

Note to self: disconnect laundry room from rest of prison.

Was there a riot in the laundry? I'm betting that if you've seen it, you watch the Shawshank Redemption on TNT.

# ¿ Oct 11, 2014 23:48

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Grapplejack posted:

You'd think the loving guards would be able to see the tunnel hollowed out behind the toilet if I tell them to look for it but they ALWAYS miss them, if i'm going looking for tunnels I have to dismantle the toilet.

I would love if checking the toilet during cell searches was something I could research, and the workers had to do it still.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 01:33

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

ShootaBoy posted:

So I just started playing again the other day, and the new traits got a couple of prisoners killed pretty much straight away, so my 73 days with no incidents bonus went out the window. In response I've built a max sec wing with its own yard and canteen, but the janitors refuse to bring any clothing to the 3 guys in there. Any ideas why and/or solutions?

Only prisoners bring clothes if they are assigned to work the laundry. I'd give the max-sec some work time when everyone else is safely somewhere else.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 22:23

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

a worthy uhh posted:

Not true, janitors will do laundry service.

When did they change that? Next to the tab trick, my game is really changing.

# ¿ Oct 23, 2014 22:40

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

cyclonic posted:

If you sell your prison, does the game "retain" it in any way? I assume there's no sort of "trophy room" for prisons you've sold, but is there at least something saved so you can look at it later? For nostalgia or something. To look at old prisons and laugh at how bad they are.

If you sell your prison you can keep playing it but you don't get to ever sell it again.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2014 22:16

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

CrusherEAGLE posted:

Should I start playing this now or wait for the game to be "released"? Sorry if this already has been answered.

Edit: I'm also curious to know if the game devs have actually done some real prison stuff to get experience for this game. I'm sure this has been answered somewhere.

The game is fun and playable. If you're someone who can't stand bugs or only plays games for a while then never again, you might want to wait.

Also I doubt the devs did any real prison stuff. They didn't do real nuclear stuff for DEFCON or real hacking for Uplink either. I wish they did, it would make for a humorous narrative arc.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 19:58

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

CrusherEAGLE posted:

Wait, these guys made uplink? Are you loving kidding me?

Is this a God Tier game like that one?

Uplink will always have a special place in my heart that can't be moved, but PA is by far the best implementation of the build-a-base genre I've played in a long time.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 20:04

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

CrusherEAGLE posted:

Out of curiosity, what's the "Genre" called, exactly?

I've been itching to play a game like this, at least I think. I went ahead and bought it, but I don't know if it's the exact game I'm looking for. Still, if they made uplink, then it's a pass in my book.

I did an edit that kinda placed it as "build a base" but it could also be put in the tycoon genre or simulator genre. Its technically an RTS with time controls and the ability to issue orders while paused, but its not a traditional RTS by most means.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2014 20:11

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

HBNRW posted:

I just can't wait till they allow multiple floors.

I don't think they ever will in the main game. Maybe a mod after release?

# ¿ Feb 22, 2015 17:51

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 10:53

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

mr sad posted:

I've really only just started. What do I do about these unsightly stacks of construction materials my workers leave around? Are inmates going to help themselves to these bricks and start bashing each other over the head?

Zone a storage area and your workers will take them over there when they get to it.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2015 04:41

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