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ReidRansom posted:Until/unless they build war robots. Or stop being so stubborn about immigration. Both are probably equally unlikely. Haha Japan will be building army pf robots to take care of their retired people.
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whatever7 posted:Haha Japan will be building army pf robots to take care of their retired people. http://www.parorobots.com/
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How is President Park doing as President (how powerful is the South Korean presidency for that matter?) and how bothered are people about her being a dictator's daughter? Is she trying to follow in his footsteps?
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whatever7 posted:Actually China may push for "1 country 2 systems" in Korea now that I think about it. Or just two countries that are on terms that don't require a giant landmine deathpit between them. At any rate, China will have the fact that literally anything is better than Juche going for them. Like you could open the box from Hellraiser and suck the entire country into a world of pure sadomasochism and that would still be an improvement.
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How friendly are the SK and Chinese governments? Why would SK agree with China to withdraw itself from geopolitics all for the grand prize of 25 million starving refugees? Even if China gave them money to rebuild it would still be a massive headache at best
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ReV VAdAUL posted:How is President Park doing as President (how powerful is the South Korean presidency for that matter?) and how bothered are people about her being a dictator's daughter? Is she trying to follow in his footsteps? This is pretty anecdotal but... I don't think she's going to be too ambitious beyond following in President Lee's footsteps of corporatism, whitewashing daddy's legacy and dealing with North Korea's poo poo. The administration seems to be spending a lot of time this year just making sure people don't blame the government too much for the Sewol ferry sinking fiasco. I live in Korea and witnessed a marching protest in Seoul last week (mostly in response to Sewol), but the police response, while numerically strong, is basically just huge lines of young guys in bright yellow uniforms holding plastic riot shields looking bored or marching around in a lite show of strength. My Korean boss told me Park had to fire one of her aides because he kept addressing her in public in a super-honorific (as if to royalty) manner, but her identity as the daughter of a strongman isn't all that significant to people anymore compared to Sewol happening on her watch. Stories relating to it are still front-page news. When she was elected, I had an early-30s Korean friend tell me "Now I know how you Americans feel when Bush was re-elected." Korea has a rapidly aging population (birth rate lower than Japan's! Wow!) and demographics played a big part in the election results. The political power gap between generations will probably only continue to widen as the elderly use their voting power to keep the conservative Saenuri party in power, so as long as they can find someone who can keep his eyes uncrossed long enough to make short addresses on the state-controlled news networks, I think there's no reason to double-down on an unpopular leader.
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Thank you for the insight. You have to wonder with the Super-honorific thing if the mistake was doing it all or just doing it in public.
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Ceramic Shot posted:This is pretty anecdotal but... Hehe at least she is doing better than Benazir Bhutto.
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DJ BK posted:south korean generals salivate at the thought of getting what the north koreans have, and we can't let that happen because japan will bomb the u.s. if they are allowed to have it too I really dont think the ROK want lovely fragile awful Nork bombs that are barely truck mobile when ROK could easily build a modern bomb themselves if they felt like it. It's not like nuclear weapons are arcane magic. icantfindaname posted:How friendly are the SK and Chinese governments? Why would SK agree with China to withdraw itself from geopolitics all for the grand prize of 25 million starving refugees? Even if China gave them money to rebuild it would still be a massive headache at best The big thing to remember about reunification is that Korea has been a unified cultural nation-state for hundreds of years. The East/West German split was inflicted on a nation that had existed for less than a hundred years among a culture famous for its high degree of fragmentation, where different dialects are practically different languages. If you look at Korea from a cold war influenced western perspective you see a clear divide that the Koreans likely see as more of a temporary jurisdictional division. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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gently caress you Otomo, I'd trust a robot over a tired, overworked orderly any day of the week.  Also here's a real gem that was posted 'Live from Seoul'! http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk03600&num=12385 My favorite part is that it only takes a few paragraphs before veering into open propaganda: quote:Scholars have three criteria for measuring change in a communist state. The first is the restoration of private property, the second is the acknowledgement of profit, and the third is the introduction of the market system. These three are like a trinity that explains a single characteristic of capitalist economy from varying angles. This is because there must be a market for profit to occur and the conceptualization of profit is not possible without the recognition of private property. Marx-Engels did away with all three from mankind. Scholars do not have any measurements related to the personal liberties or quality of life guaranteed for citizens because
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Is South Korea - sorry I mean False Korea - building an army of autonomous humanoid Samsung-branded terminators as a precautionary measure?
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DancingShade posted:Is South Korea - sorry I mean False Korea - building an army of autonomous humanoid Samsung-branded terminators as a precautionary measure? Ha, of course not! However, if a private citizen chooses to contract the building of one or more death robots from his preferred manufacturer, this is well within the the parameters of a properly functioning Serious question: how likely is it that one of the exiled/estranged older brothers might suddenly be welcomed home? Similarly, would they really entertain the idea of letting big sis run the show?
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I am saddened that many see the downfall of the ultimate realization of dialectical materialism as a cause for celebration. Humans are social beings in nature, and Juche gives proof to this truth.
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Mr. Horrible posted:Ha, of course not! However, if a private citizen chooses to contract the building of one or more death robots from his preferred manufacturer, this is well within the the parameters of a properly functioning quote:Serious question: how likely is it that one of the exiled/estranged older brothers might suddenly be welcomed home? Similarly, would they really entertain the idea of letting big sis run the show? China is keeping one of Kim3's older brothers well fed and live in Macau. It's more of a "Plan C". Kim3 have killed off the part of the Kim family that had good relation with China. This guy's son is on Wechat. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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None of the other Kim children really have a power base either, though. Any one of them would likely face the same problem that Jong Un has. Recall that Kim Jong Il spent decades under his father building and consolidating his, and largely during more prosperous times, while none of his own children have had that same opportunity. The best another Kim could hope for would probably to be installed as a figurehead puppet for either whoever has currently accumulated the most political capital if they felt for some reason they couldn't or would rather not be the public face of the government, or for a Chinese-backed government. But even then it probably doesn't last. If Jong Un is really out, it's probably over for the main branch Kims.
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drilldo squirt posted:So who do you think broke Un's ankles? Have to admit, this was my first thought.
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This is probably not a remarkable incident, but it does deserve note: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e736_story.html quote:Warships from the rival Koreas exchanged warning shots Tuesday after a North Korean ship briefly violated the disputed western sea boundary, a South Korean defense official said. Sounds like a game of "Does this bother you? I'm not touching you."
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ReV VAdAUL posted:How is President Park doing as President (how powerful is the South Korean presidency for that matter?) and how bothered are people about her being a dictator's daughter? Is she trying to follow in his footsteps? Lots of old people are nostalgic for Park Chun-hee. She did well enough to get elected, anyway, although I guess the Sewol thing gave her some image problems.
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How come the last two South Korean disasters were both boat sinking? Was there any older major boat sinking accident from either Korea?
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whatever7 posted:How come the last two South Korean disasters were both boat sinking? Was there any older major boat sinking accident from either Korea? The boat of love 
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whatever7 posted:How come the last two South Korean disasters were both boat sinking? Was there any older major boat sinking accident from either Korea? South Korea has a proud history of ferries sinking and killing a vast amount of people every ~20 years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_Korean_ferry_disasters
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South Korea's defense ministry just announced that North Korea is actually planning to invade this year: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/north-korea-planning-war-against-south-unify-two-koreas-says-seoul-1468788
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:South Korea's defense ministry just announced that North Korea is actually planning to invade this year: That won't go well for North Korea.
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I live in Gimpo. In the extremely unlikely event that anything does happen, how hosed am I by living right by an airport less than an hour from the border?
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With the South Korean Warship that sank was any credible explanation given for how an aging NK sub slipped into the middle of a training exercise with the US Navy, sank a warship and got away clean?
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:South Korea's defense ministry just announced that North Korea is actually planning to invade this year: Sounds really silly now I'm typing it out, but I think I'll wait for confirmation from the North.
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TheBalor posted:I live in Gimpo. In the extremely unlikely event that anything does happen, how hosed am I by living right by an airport less than an hour from the border? Depends, how do you feel about the Kims?
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ReidRansom posted:Sounds really silly now I'm typing it out, but I think I'll wait for confirmation from the North. Unironically quoting the IBTimes should feel silly.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Depends, how do you feel about the Kims? The glorious Juche ideal must spread to all nations!
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ReV VAdAUL posted:With the South Korean Warship that sank was any credible explanation given for how an aging NK sub slipped into the middle of a training exercise with the US Navy, sank a warship and got away clean? Diesel-electric subs, even old ones, are really loving quiet and difficult to detect, especially if you aren't actively looking for it. It's wouldn't even be the first time one has snuck into the middle of a USN combat group undetected. I don't know if that's the official explanation since militaries tend not to like talking about their vulnerabilities, but it's most likely the actual explanation.
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As I understand it, Canadian subs regularly do that sort of thing during joint training maneuvers for the same reason. And I can only suppose that it's the type of thing that you want the relevant crew members to have experience dealing with.
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Theris posted:Diesel-electric subs, even old ones, are really loving quiet and difficult to detect, especially if you aren't actively looking for it. It's wouldn't even be the first time one has snuck into the middle of a USN combat group undetected. I thought it was an old sea mine? Did any NK submarine captain receive unusual promotion afterwards?
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Koramei posted:The USN has laughable submarine detection capabilities too, so it's really not that unbelievable. That's not true at all. The USN has some of the best detection capabilities in the world. The North Koreans used a midget submarine to launch a surprise attack against the ROKS Cheonan while the USN/ROKS were conducting exercises ~75 miles away. We're good, but we're not 75 miles good. whatever7 posted:I thought it was an old sea mine? Did any NK submarine captain receive unusual promotion afterwards? A defector reported that the crew all won "Hero of the DPRK" medals, but who knows if it's true or not.
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Zeroisanumber posted:That's not true at all. The USN has some of the best detection capabilities in the world. The North Koreans used a midget submarine to launch a surprise attack against the ROKS Cheonan while the USN/ROKS were conducting exercises ~75 miles away. We're good, but we're not 75 miles good. Is it bad relative to our naval spending or just not bad at all then? I've read no shortage of people complaining about it (which evidently I took to be a very authoritative source).
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Jagchosis posted:South Korea has a proud history of ferries sinking and killing a vast amount of people every ~20 years The survival rate is improving, at least!
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Koramei posted:Is it bad relative to our naval spending or just not bad at all then? I've read no shortage of people complaining about it (which evidently I took to be a very authoritative source). The truth is that if you know what you're doing with a diesel-electric sub you can make yourself incredibly difficult to find. The downside of course is that you can't do it for very long or very far from home and once you start moving you're easy to find again.
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