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NK is such a deluded shitstorm of a country that it's almost impossible for it to improve its situation on its own. I'd say its fair, and I'd say it is just going to get worse. If their collapse wasn't such a massive problem for everybody involved I'd say it would have already happened...I mean it has been subsidized throughout it's entire existence, first by USSR/China, now USA/China/SK. One of the famines would probablly resulted into a revolution without external aid.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 00:08 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 17:14 |
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Pretty sure South Koreans are big enough fans of their democracy and human rights that they'd rather not unify at all then have some weird inferior part in their nation. I don't know why there couldn't be a transitional period of decade or two where NK is still a separate entity under international observation during which US/China/SK bring it up to bare minimum of infrastructure/economy for it to actually be a viable other half of unification.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 01:13 |
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...I always thought fan death is some surreal internet joke about Koreans...
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 09:47 |
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TheImmigrant posted:Wiki's piece on Fan Death meshes with what I remember.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 11:19 |
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I'd like to visit Korea but my melanin count is pretty high and I heard it's racist as poo poo there...
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 20:48 |
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whatever7 posted:I disagree with you guys arguing semantic of NK's worker quality. Once SK absort NK, it will give a major demographical boost to Korea, and it will emerge as bigger and stronger nation than Japan 20 years later. Well like India and China can tell you, more people isn't always better. And I'm pretty sure the combined population will be smaller then Japan's.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 22:07 |
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whatever7 posted:First of all, how is it not good for China? I...uh...are you aware of the concept of overpopulation? Do you think China instituted one-child policy because they hate children? It's not so good for India for the exact same reasons it was bad for China or still is for a shitload of African/Asian nations - increased population growth without accompanying equivalent economic rise is not a good thing for reasons that should be obvious. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Oct 16, 2014 |
# ¿ Oct 16, 2014 22:44 |
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whatever7 posted:I actually have heard this year that NK outsourced programmers to China, the project leader could communicate in English. This was a shock to me, because it implied the NK state machine and higher educational system had not deteriorated. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_North_Korea#Higher_education
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2014 01:46 |
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RuanGacho posted:I've never understood the attitude that the US is able to build anything infrastructure or economy wise when we've been actively trying to let roads go to gravel for over a decade now. You're pretty decent in doing it in other countries where you actually have willing partners, etc. Marshall Plan, Japan, and so on. SK would probably be running things on the ground anyway, and SK has a very good semi-recent track record of building up economy/infrastructure, as does China. And no, I think for a long while American politics were pretty stellar in comparison to the rest of the world. Then the Republican Party went batshit insane and neoliberals started basically stopping anything that didn't line the pockets of them and their friends. The "rebuilding" of Iraq was headed by the unholy combination of both and well, the result was about what you could expect. You would have had better results just dropping 10% of the money wasted from planes over Baghdad and promising to drop the rest if the Iraqis overthrew Saddam and held free elections. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Oct 17, 2014 |
# ¿ Oct 17, 2014 22:50 |
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WarpedNaba posted:Works for corporations, who's to say it won't work for countries? Well it's not like we have a particular lack of examples for countries...
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2014 06:51 |
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Baudolino posted:Very often they do. In fact most of europe is comprised of quite poor nations with almost no economic growth where you must rely on yourself and your family or perish. Don`t assume it`s like Sweden everywhere. "Most of Europe"? European Union is "Most of Europe" and I wouldn't characterize any of them with that description. Sure, there are regional differences, but it's not like United States doesn't have those.
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