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Looks like 38north.org can't handle all this talk of war. It ran out of bandwidth and is unreachable 
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Stairmaster posted:North korea already has a nuclear strike capability. It just won't let them hit anything farther than japan. I'm not saying you are wrong, but do we actually know that NK has the ability to put a nuke on any kind of missile? For all we know the nukes they have could be the big gravity bomb type like fat man or little boy dropped in WW2. In which case I don't see how NK could actually use them.
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Apr 25, 2017 04:14
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chitoryu12 posted:A preemptive nuclear strike would be the fastest path America gets to becoming a pariah state and/or Trump being impeached. Americans are far stupid to impeach Trump over anything he does or will do. A pre emptive nuclear strike on NK will just play into his tough guy image and every insecure middle aged white guy in the country will be thrilled we finally taught those commie bastards a lesson.
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Jul 27, 2017 01:26
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Baronjutter posted:Why are people so scared of North Korea? They ain't going to do poo poo, just let them have their little kingdom, they aren't going to nuke anyone because it's suicide for them. Either China takes them down from the inside or outside or the regime finally falls apart after ??? generations. OMG North Korea could get a single nuke to maybe hit *americans*. A bunch of countries have nukes that can hit other countries, why are we worrying about closing the barn doors at this point? They aren't going to nuke the US, they aren't going to invade the south, they're going to sit there being a lovely dictatorship and making a lot of noise but little else. Forget the nukes. Do you know how many people would be killed from chemical weapons launched into Seoul and maybe Tokyo if we attacked NK? This doesn't get talked about enough. NK has huge stockpiles of WMDs including crazy poo poo like VX and more than enough ballistic missiles to launch it with. You might think it would be suicide and so therefore it wouldn't happen , but we don't know what the hell the Regime would do if it felt it's existence was in danger. I guess you probably don't care about thousand, probably tens of thousands of civilians killed in Seoul or Tokyo because they aren't American. Well I hate to break it to you but we base our military in these countries and the governments certainly do care. So if we want to get all cowboy and nuke Pyongyang we are going to need their approval and I highly doubt they will want to sacrifice their civilians for it.
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Jul 27, 2017 01:33
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Conspiratiorist posted:The ultimate goal for NK is to get the US off the Korean Peninsula. I can see the North threatening to invade the south and if the US intervenes say goodbye to a large chunk of LA.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:57
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I'm pretty sure South Korea could defend itself without us right?
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Jul 30, 2017 22:46
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I've always been curious how a post Kim regime NK (or maybe just "Korea?") Would handle the sudden inflow of the modern world. Like would the people be completely overwhelmed with the advancements the rest of the world has made while they were stuck in the 50s? If Korea was reunited would the northerners. Be able to travel freely down south? I cant imagine what a northerner would think seeing Seoul for the first time. Although I guess we know from defectors what that would be like for them. I know the closest comparison would be the German reunification after the wall fell, but I don't the think the east Germans were anywhere near as far behind as the NKs are.
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Aug 10, 2017 03:29
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Burt Sexual posted:And lost the totality of little credibility he had since being elected, meeting with the g20, trying to get legislation passed, etc etc I don't think you understand the "Today Trump became president" meme
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Aug 12, 2017 04:35
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maskenfreiheit posted:Sadly no 😓 People that never watch the news and decide to tune in on any given day would probably think WW3 is around the corner.
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Aug 29, 2017 22:14
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817 posted:Well let's calculate just how deadly a North Korean artillery retaliation against Seoul could be by using the East Ghouta gas attack as the baseline. Thanks for bringing up NKs chemical weapons. I don't think this gets talked about enough. Also they have a lot of short range missiles (think scuds/frog missiles) that can hit anywhere in Seoul, and im sure they have the warheads to deliver chem weapons. So we have to add that to the equation. But wouldn't the population density of Seoul vs Ghouta also be a factor? There's a big difference between a chemical weapons attack in a densely populated metropolitan city vs a bombed out hellhole like Ghouta.
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Sep 3, 2017 17:57
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So did this missile fly over Japan again?
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Nov 28, 2017 19:58
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So the US is sending F22s and F35s to South Korea for joint wargame training. Of course like usual this pisses off North Korea and I kid you not this is how they responded: "The stealth fighters which the enemies boast so much of will not escape the fate of a tiger moth," the North Korean commentary said. OH poo poo THEY HAVE TIGER MOTHS!! http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/03/asia/north-korean-us-tensions-wargames-intl/index.html
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Dec 4, 2017 01:30
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Willo567 posted:You know what? Everybody's right, that was loving retarded of me to say It was the gooniest thing I've read in a while on this dead comedy forum and it made me laugh. Plus your heart is in the right place.
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Dec 21, 2017 02:38
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Another North Korean soldier defected to the south: http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/20/asia/north-korea-soldier-defection-dmz/index.html
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Dec 21, 2017 03:58
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EasternBronze posted:What about the threat of unlimited nuclear proliferation? A regime that only cares about its own survival would totally sell a nuclear warhead to an international terror group, thus resulting in the biggest excuse the US ever needed to take out said regime.
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Dec 22, 2017 03:56
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EasternBronze posted:This exact reasoning could be used to discount much of what NK has done over the last year. At this point literally anyone can be anyway. It's an old technology, and the only real limiting factor are the political considerations.
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Dec 22, 2017 05:01
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EasternBronze posted:So what exactly is your point? That non-proliferation is pointless and anyone with a few billion dollars should be allowed to get as many as they want? Should we go to war with every single country that begins a fledgling nuclear program?
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Dec 22, 2017 05:59
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EasternBronze posted:If it comes down to that, yes. Every new nuclear power added increases the chance of global armageddon. So if Canada decides to start building nukes, do we invade them as well? It fits the definition of increased nuclear proliferation. Or should we ignore it when it's our allies doing it. Would it be good for Saudi Arabia to build the bomb? They are an ally after all.
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Dec 22, 2017 08:30
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FourLeaf posted:For real though. Israel has the exact same "if we're going down we're nuking the rest of the world with us" policy The quote of a crazy author is not official government policy for the millionth time.
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Dec 23, 2017 05:24
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:China is a rouge state that trades extensively with the rest of the world. China is not a rouge state. They are not a rogue state either. You really think the #2 economy in the world is a rogue state?
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Dec 24, 2017 05:18
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mlmp08 posted:-A thing no one said. A thing a LOT of white people say and feel actually...
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Jan 10, 2018 20:11
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Willo567 posted:I doubt a military parade would be enough for the U.S. to strike North Korea It would be a great place for an decapitation strike though. Kim sitting on the podium would be a perfect target for a JDAM. Not to mention it would probably take out a large part of his senior military leadership too. Of course the nukes would probably still fly after that. Im sure there's a policy in North Korea to launch everything if Kim is taken out.
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Feb 1, 2018 04:31
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FourLeaf posted:The latest controversy seems to be the cheerleaders. Who is that mask supposed to represent? A young Kim Il Sung?
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Feb 11, 2018 12:05
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OhFunny posted:China and Russia actually vetoed the resolution approving use of force to enforce the sanctions on North Korea and China is not happy with this latest move by the US. Lol what cooperation?
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Feb 24, 2018 21:26
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nelson posted:My guess is it’s all a big bluff to enhance negotiating position. No way S. Korea agrees to invasion. This is a big hurdle that I think doesn't get talked about enough. Like ok, we all know Trump would be crazy enough to attempt a preemptive strike without consent from SK. But who knows what would happen if he did. Would SK let them use airbases? Would SK let them continue to their ports for supplies? I would imagine SK would have to sign off on any US attack on NK for it to go smoothly. But with potentially 100s of thousands of it's own citizens lives on the line I think the bar for justifiable military action is a whole hell of a lot higher for SK than for Trump. And Trump might not have that kind of patience.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:34
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Willo567 posted:Didn't Russia say that they would retaliate against a nuclear attack on any of their allies? Youre thinking of China. China said if we started a war with NK, they would retaliate against us. However they also said if NK started a war, they would wouldn't intervene.
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Mar 2, 2018 10:20
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mobby_6kl posted:Have you seen Trump? He's incapable of maintaining good relations with Canada, Australia or the EU, how can this possibly not end in disaster. He gets along really well with dictators. He's very envious of them.
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Mar 10, 2018 04:27
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I feel like no matter where the Trump - Kim meeting happens is going to be a huge point of contention. I think maybe the only place that would make sense would be on the North/South Korea border?
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Mar 10, 2018 06:00
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R. Guyovich posted:it's whoever the workers' party elects. there isn't some big mystery to it That's like saying the British parliament elects the next king. I mean yeah, on paper the workers party elects the the leader of NK but everyone knows its basically a monarchy. If Kim Jong Un has a son that he chooses to be it's next leader, then that's who the party will vote for when the time comes. Barring any unforeseen circumstances that is. That's the way it's always worked in NK, so any other scenario well no one knows how the leader would be chosen.
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Mar 10, 2018 06:57
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R. Guyovich posted:oh well if EVERYONE knows then it must be true. I'm not claiming to be an expert on NK politics. But if it works any other way than I described than please correct me.
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Mar 10, 2018 12:42
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Fojar38 posted:Personally I would give Trump a nobel in exchange for permanent peace on the Korean peninsula Yeah for all his many, many faults if Trump actually blunders his way into achieving legit peace on the Korean peninsula then I hate to say it but he would totally deserve a Nobel.
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Apr 27, 2018 05:52
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Burt Buckle posted:I don’t know how Nobel prizes work, but wouldn’t the South Korean and Chinese leaders deserve more credit than Trump as it currently stands? Are Nobel prizes like super bowl rings where even the waterboy gets a ring? I think Obama got a Nobel for just getting elected
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Apr 27, 2018 07:17
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I have to say, it must be really weird to have the dictator of an enemy country that speaks your language. I'm talking about the South Koreans when they get to hear Kim Jong Un speak. As an American, most of the leaders of our enemy countries have spoken different languages and so the threats they make we usually only hear through translators. Which takes some of the bite out it to be honest.
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May 3, 2018 08:12
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Vladimir Putin posted:Honestly trashing Pence was probably a bit over the top. It’s like they were trying to find out how far they could push it came out out as being a bit unreasonable even for them. They weren't wrong. Pence threatening regime change ala the "Libya model" if NK didn't make a deal with them was dumb as gently caress.
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May 24, 2018 15:12
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Vladimir Putin posted:Go back to why we are in this situation in the first place and why there are two countries. NK and SK are one country artificially separated by the peculiarities of the Cold War, like east/west Germany. And the Cold War has been over for decades. The only thing really stopping the reunification of NK/SK is the desire for the Kim family to remain in power using brutal methods. There’s many ways to a ‘one Korea’ and all of the outcomes DO NOT involve Kim. The government of a reunited Korea cannot involve Kim, nor his family, nor anything related to the current system of government in NK in any meaningful way. You know you're advocating for war on the Korean peninsula right?
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Jun 7, 2018 07:36
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Uh oh, they might resume the thing they never stopped doing.
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Aug 29, 2018 05:09
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There's definitely been foreign assistance to NKs nuke and missile program throughout the years, both voluntary and involuntary. The Pakistani nuclear scientist A Q Khan is believed to have offered nuclear weapons assistance to North Korea. And recently some North Korean agents were arrested in Ukraine for stealing rocket plans.
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Sep 12, 2018 08:44
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LeoMarr posted:Uh my problem is that a foreign dictator literally brought good looking women in to a very high level meeting solely for subterfuge? What does Pompeos wife think when he cant keep his eyes off either of them and its documented? Kind of eye opening isnt it? Lol wtf. One of those "bitches" is Kim's sister, who is about the closest thing to a vice president in North Korea. She's there for every official event including the Olympics and the Singapore summit. The other lady I'm pretty sure is Kim's translator. You know, something you might need when conversing with people that speak a different language. They weren't brought in to be eye candy. Fuckin dope.
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Oct 10, 2018 09:20
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So now that the second Trump/Kim summit broke down the logical conclusion is NK is going to go back to testing nukes and missiles right? I mean that's how they got Trump to the bargaining table to begin with.
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Mar 1, 2019 20:37
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If any of you liked the show "The Americans" you might really like the Korean movie "Red Family". It's about a group of North Korean agents that live covertly in the South posing as a South Korean family. It's a good movie with lots of plot twists and it's very dark and sad at times.
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Mar 3, 2019 10:29
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