Korea Thread: Fumbling to take a bite of kimchi

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Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

https://news.vice.com/article/former-top-official-says-kim-jong-un-is-no-longer-in-control-of-north-korea

So apparently Kim Jong Un is ill, and I don't mean his father, either.

HA HA HA OH GOD

But seriously, it looks like the most chode-like despot is going to be gone soon. What do you think will happen to Korea in that case? Will the North collapse and become a black hole of money for the world? Or will Tom Clancy cream himself as crazed generals go balls-out nuclear against Japan?

# ¿ Oct 5, 2014 09:41

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# ¿ May 5, 2024 22:02

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

I feel like the way north korea is set up, it sorta has to implode. I can't really imagine it transitioning peacefully, unfortunately.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2014 11:41

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Neo Rasa posted:

Offtopic, but Tom Clancy hadn't actually written anything himself for about eight years. "Tom Clancy" became a brand name, there's tons of books that says TOM CLANCY: DRAMATIC TITLE in huge block letters and says "Written/Co-written by John Smith" in tiny print at the bottom. Super right wing conspiracy nuts write all his stuff which is why it got so crazy even compared to his own work. In fact a new Tom Clancy book specifically about North Korean generals going nuts and launching ICBMs at Japan is available for pre-order as I write this.

Wait are you serious?

e: Holy poo poo

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/tom-clancy-full-force-and-effect-mark-greaney/1119690302?ean=9780399173356

I want my loving royalties.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2014 05:45

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

whatever7 posted:

How come the last two South Korean disasters were both boat sinking? Was there any older major boat sinking accident from either Korea?

The boat of love

# ¿ Oct 7, 2014 06:45

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

If you missed this earlier in the year, PBS released a special on North Korea with undercover footage and poo poo. It's pretty alright.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secret-state-of-north-korea/

# ¿ Oct 9, 2014 11:28

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Dilkington posted:

About a month ago, CSIS had a big conference on Korean-unification:

https://csis.org/event/korean-unification-new-era

If you are primarily interested in security issues, maybe just watch panels C and D. A and B are really bullish projections of economic development.

Here's B.R. Myers from a few years ago, giving a lecture on his book The Cleanest Race. It's fascinating.

http://www.booktv.org/Program/11315/The+Cleanest+Race+How+North+Koreans+See+Themselves+And+Why+It+Matters.aspx

Echoing the sentiment abut his lecture and also the book. It's required reading for anybody interested in the Korean unification issues and the history of the Korean conflict.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2014 22:47

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

backifran posted:

Slightly off topic, but does anyone here want to go on an organised tour to north korea with me next year?

None of my IRL friends want to do it, and I figure nothing can be worse than a bunch of goons on the internet. This is a serious post, so let me know. I probably won't sell you to camp 22 (don't talk about this)

I'd be interested, honestly. How much have you figured the travel costs and all out to be?

Fall Sick and Die posted:

Wow a trip to North Korea!! Hope you enjoy the idea of your money going to pay directly for the lifestyles of the people in charge and the support of the government as fun tourists looking for an exciting adventure give them hard currency they're able to use to trade with China. People will be really impressed when you come back to show them the photos of a place they've never been, you will really be defining yourself as an adventurer who isn't afraid of anything!! I'm unable to go myself but I will forward this message to other goons (and maybe a few curvy goonettes ). Good luck and hope you enjoy the unique trip to a dystopian horrorland!!

Actually as a cold war history major, it's a valuable tool for me to see first-hand the situation in North Korea today. I am student-teaching a high school about the Korean war right now, and if I could see first-hand the situation there, be able to describe it more fully, the students might come away with a greater awareness of the situation and be far more inclined to donate money to help after a government collapse. It's not the same thing as visiting New Orleans post-Katrina and gawking at the destruction, it's a valid way to learn about another culture and see how they see the world, or at least try to.

Dusty Baker 2 fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Oct 12, 2014

# ¿ Oct 12, 2014 05:03

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Jack of Hearts posted:

OK, with all that said, actual bright-eyed defectors have been sentenced to labor camps in recent memory. Taking one's chances as a western tourist in a period of potential instability in NK is a 9 on the scale of 1-"let's see what ISIS-held territory is really like!"

I don't think North Korea is stupid enough to kidnap an American citizen and keep them. They tend to return them when the US gives them a stern look. I also long for the warm embrace of death.

# ¿ Oct 12, 2014 05:31

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Apparently North Korea is restarting their nuclear reactor:

http://38north.org/2015/01/yongbyon012815/

# ¿ Jan 30, 2015 18:10

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

The North Korean defense minister, Hyon Yong-chol, has been executed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32716749

# ¿ May 13, 2015 02:47

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

By anti-aircraft fire?

Doesn't South Korea regularly make up absurdly outlandish atrocities North Korea is guilty of? I wonder if there's another source.

That's also a really bad misuse of equipment and if I've learned anything from mandatory OSHA videos it's that you should always use the right tool for the job.

# ¿ May 13, 2015 07:33

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Azran posted:

Oh boy this thread is like three months old, but I got a question.

I've been reading about the North Korean regimes for the last two years (Bradley's Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader was particularly good, while Nothing to Envy, by Barbara Demick, gives a way more personal, on-the-ground experience of life in the North.) Since the death of Kim Jong-Il happened relatively recently, I haven't seen much written about Kim Jong-Un. Has he developed his own brand of hosed-up authoritarism? Do we know, from any recent refugees/defectors, what's the state of affairs over there/popularity of the new Great Leader?

You need to check this book out:

http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Leader-Escape-North-Korea/dp/1476766568

It came out in mid-2014 iirc and is by a former "government poet" who met Kim Jong Un (or the father, can't quite remember) and was rather high-ranking in society. It covers a lot of the transition of power between father and son after Kim Jong-Il died.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 21:30

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/north-korea-state-media-army-mobilised-150821003337584.html

Apparently Pyongyang is "mobilizing" their military in response to the shelling and has demanded South Korea cease broadcasting propaganda via loudspeakers across the DMZ or face military action. They have given Seoul 48 hours to comply. Or else. This time they mean it.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 04:04

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

sparatuvs posted:

Here's how it will go.

North Korea: "Back down or we'll start a war"

South Korea: "We didn't do anything"

North Korean media: Another victory for the peoples army.

no but really this time they mean it

they even said it.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 06:11

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

S. Korea warns strong retaliation amid prospect of further N. Korean attack
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2015/08/21/0200000000AEN20150821004751315.html?input=www.tweeter.com

North Korea is showing signs of launching a test of mid-range & ballistic missile in N. Pyeongan province
https://twitter.com/rConflictNews/status/634605647913467905

North Korea embassy in Beijing calling "emergency" press conference as DMZ situation escalates
https://twitter.com/rConflictNews/status/634615017887956992

# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 07:52

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

sparatuvs posted:

American jets buzz the dmz and blue house talks are a-go

Wait do you mean Panmunjom or the actual Blue House?

# ¿ Aug 22, 2015 09:12

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

The reason this time seems different to me is it's the first time in my living memory that the South has had such strong rhetoric. I thought they normally just sort of ignored NK provocations.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2015 17:00

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

wow spoiler alert dick

# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 01:38

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Koramei posted:

my bad man I'll fix that it's a good book

haha I was kidding you actually prompted me to order it off amazon. now I feel like an rear end in a top hat, I'm sorry.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 01:43

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Nintendo Kid posted:

It absolutely does when you start redirecting resources in your planned economy to statues and the like at a way higher priority then say, maintaining your electrical grid, or keeping up with routine infrastructure maintenance. Were you not aware of this?

quit statueshaming.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 03:17

Dusty Baker 2: Jul 8, 2011; Keyboard Inghimasi

Grouchio posted:

After 70 years of existence, North Korea now thinks it has the balls to take the US on.

Wishful propaganda or actual threats? I would like to hear your take.

As an American I hereby surrender to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 20:07