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Main Paineframe posted:A poor economy which was overly dependent on Soviet aid and is not well-integrated with the modern global economy, mostly, with aging infrastructure they no longer have the money to maintain. North Korea has electricity, it's just that most of it is hydropower that goes out every time the rivers freeze over, and the grid that distributes it dates back to the 60s. Similarly, North Korea's food problems boil down to the fact that the country only barely (if at all) has enough arable land to produce enough food to feed the population, and doesn't really have the money to import more, so the slightest disturbance to the agricultural sector (like a drought, a flood, or government mismanagement) kicks off a famine. Wouldn't North Korea's very large mineral deposits make up for this cost?
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WarpedNaba posted:They ain't that large.  Im no mineral expert so someone else is going to have to tell me if these are large or not.
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Is NK one virus away from collapse? The medical system is non-existant that small pox is still feared. I couldnt imagine what would happen if Korea collapsed. I mean refugees would create a nasty cesspit on China.
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Halloween Jack posted:Someone asked a similar question a while back. The state of health care in North Korea is terrible, with high rates of Hepatitis B and other communicable and easily preventable diseases, and meth abuse often substitutes for real pharmacology. But low population density, combined with a largely rural and immobile population (the average person is lucky to have a bicycle) prevent the kind of scenario you're talking about. What about the NK Military? Its in shambles and gets worse daily, as you said hep B is rampant. It seems like every time there is a world health risk (zika, ebola) NK regime goes into panic mode. A non moving population is sort of bullshit. Especially in the notrthern villages where people go back and forth between China the risk of disease transmittance seems high. Victor Cha discusses how "NK is 1 pandemic away from collapse" on Vice. https://youtu.be/GVWyWKdhS5s The main topic is nukes but the Pandemic ties into this.
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Its all americas fault as usual. Always good to isolate the one nation that can afford reunification.
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Halloween Jack posted:The thing is, the interests that push for war with Iran are a pretty well known quantity, but I don't hear people talk about elements in the U.S. military or intelligence community that are hankering for an invasion of North Korea. Who might be encouraging or restraining him? South Korea, most us mil vets who saw what korea did to our boys, Sif we invade SK loses its capital shortly afterbthe invasion e nortj kotans would bombard the poo poo out of seoul the moment we tried to o vade them. so its. bas idea, were better off supporting an overthrow from the inside. assasinating or incriminating key officials destroying the NK rockets onthe laun pad. were doing whats right for the threat. weve thoroiguly isolated nk from china. give itba year ornless the peninsula will be home to a new country. they cant even sell minerals to china. the ONLY thing that kept poo poo going.
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Jul 1, 2017 03:27
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half of the guys that Jong Un is killing are his most loyal guys. wr falsify things so easily. we have a domibating force on their internet. we are feeding KJU a constant tream of bullshit that creates dissention amongst his generls. the guys running sroun accusing people and wr got jkm to kill hos own uncle for gos sake. it was faked. all the "proof" KJU had for his slew of executions was FAKED.
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I hope trump nukes the loving norks. if he gets impeached gently caress it hell get pardoned and rerun 2020
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Stairmaster posted:Advanced= technology from the mid 50s well tbey said that on cnn so it must ve true super advanced Implosion weapons
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maskenfreiheit posted:They could have pulled a NK and threatened to level Moscow Which wouldnhave resulted in the entire Ukrainian high commabd to be killed by an accidental releade of VX Gas from none other that Ukraines own Military force.
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Kim ws told something easy by Puyin that is that All he has to do is not use his nukes and he will perpetually create mass havoc amongstbthe world. Test but dont use. Very simple. Darth Korea stays a country of massive drug trafficking the rich get richer and gently caress the rest. Venezueala ans North Kore aare basically the same countrtn economially. The top guy s mke $$ from drugs their soldiwrs abd police get paid and fed, the rest of the country is a human shield.Welcome to socialism. If Venexuela had nukes it would be the same poo poo. NK just had a very big headdtartm but WAIT TILL VENEZUELA HAS NUKES (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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itt we discuss Homefront Alt universes where Japan and SK side wjth NK to fight the US.A becausw thwy did a mean
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Baronjutter posted:Mexico could easily invade and conquer the US right now because the US is a declining divided nation that doesn't have a sense of unity and a majority of people don't have faith in their leader. I'm not an expert on Mexico or its culture, but I'm going to pull a bunch of stuff from my rear end and paint them as a united force fighting for strong ideals. Mexico knows it would be fighting for its very existence so their soldiers would never give up, while the american military would be risking death just to see their unpopular leader replaced with another and maybe eat more tacos. It would certainly be a difficult war but I have no doubt Mexico would win because I'm loving stupid and insane. I voted for trump for this very reson hiw much Uranium does north kroea have in mines? is it in the 4 digit tonnages? WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 20:11
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There are 15,000 pieces of artillery aimed pr at least zeroed on seoul. it Is a problem.
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cr0y posted:Is there a serious possibilty of NK doing an air burst test over the Pacific? hopefully.
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Willo567 posted:One last question: how likely is the following scenario to happen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQeQWWKKvq4
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Conspiratiorist posted:Read, motherfucker. Your ideas are terrible. This isn't call of duty 4. Al-Zakev of North Korea isn't going to launch a nuke and blow up his own country to kill americans. It's inane and a 'mad man' answer. Kim and the party are not feeble. They are as intelligent as they are dangerous. K and the boys are not going to fire a nuke, but what they will do is continue to undermine US Foreign policy while having gas trucks filled in china and russia and sent over the border. Wanna know what was more effective at hampering electricity in the 'peninsula'? It's called KI SUNG 
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100% Of countries who fired nukes in anger are now unmatched hyperpowers. so NK will fire a nuke and become Homefront villian in human form
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Too bad, with honesty yes an EMP would be the best thing NK can do... To Kill 8+ million civilians. Yes Blackout Seoul and let the Arty boys basically turn the city into a gigantic bread kneader. no city lights to guide civilians to shelters would result in a bombardment casualty scale that would rival nothing we have ever seen. However they aren't going to do this. NK would not be able to just eradicate Seoul without losing everything. Do you know what the Kim family does all day? gently caress around and play video games, watch netflix and eat a lot of junkfood. KJU's Ankles breaking or whatever is because he spends more time infront of a PC/TV than the average SA poster does. They aren't going to sacrifice the luxuries they have. Just because the mainstream audience thinks sanctions do anything. This whole tangent about NK self nuking is really stupid and goes to the same level as those who believe literally anything that has "North Korea Does..." infront of it. We should get back to the real discussion and not this EMP shrillery. Here. Write a loving research paper about it Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-YtrYGAIQ https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/873452/North-Korea-World-War-3-Donald-Trump-Kim-Jong-un-US-war-news-electromagnetic-pulse-bomb 2025: A thermonuclear device is detonated by one of the Korean satellites 300 miles above Kansas, blanketing America with an EMP [electromagnetic pulse] that wipes out its power grid and most of the electronics above ground. The U.S. infrastructure is virtually in ruins. This is followed by the Korean seizure of Hawaii and landings in San Francisco. Korean paratroopers are dropped into central United States. The economic downfall in Europe prevents its nations from intervening. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Im going to rejoon the army if we invade korea. Im honestly happy to be able to return to nk... this time with a gun
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China would be very unhappy to have nkorean refugees flood into the country. Which would happen in any offensive/nuke situation.
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Thump! posted:Can you really ‘miss’ with a nuke? Saddam kept his misiles firing for weekasafter the first invasion. And they had a fifth of NKs missile batteries. Many nukes of KjUs would be in hardened middle of nowhere places. Case in point, NK provises nuclear research assistance to other cointries, shich gives their scientists more breathing room to learn. Pakistani scie tists work with nk, nk worked with syria (till israel killed 2 of them) anyway, In that nK has a nuclear progrma similar to ours in the early 60s. I am sorry but Nk isnt stupid. They spend massive drug money to fund nukes. Quality nukes at the end of the process that arent just going to fall apart mid flight. Theyve reverse engineered our fighter avionics packages by buying smart munitoona and fighter jets from Pakistan and use the advanced tech to build nuclear guidance systems. They stock up hardened bunkers with underground rail systems that can RAPIDLY re arm thousands of conventional and non conventional missile batteries.
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Gues chimna wasnt happy with a being sanctioned to hell. Im sure the snctions were directed at china and nks "special relationship"
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fishmech posted:This is bullshit. Nukes ain't doing anything for them conventional wasn't, besides incur ever spiraling sanctions. Not true at ALL. NK strengthens its evil doer coffers with drugs and nuclear research contracts. They sell scientists time to other countries. NK enriches a lot of material that gets moved to other countries. NK needed nukes as a gurator that a "popular" overthrow would still result in an omega level response. North korea has low and mid range missiles in hardened launch sites in highly difficult to navigate mountainous terrain. Aerial bombardment isnt always the end all be all sadly in this type of terrain. They could get all of their nukes off before we could mount a proper response. They could hit japan before we were penetrating the country. Sorry. Not attainable by their conventional force in any manner. Sanctions dont mean much. Countries will still reflag to run the blockades. Sancrions just mean NK has to put morebupfront money to get the things they already hve a plethora of. They buy oil from Isis( dead)and Syria, among other players (venezuela trades drugs for oil to them) they buy remakes of many techs from china. The higher ups have loving Humvee ripoffs with american engines in them in NK. Sancrions dont work against an already criminal country with deep ties to many aspects of life outside the hermit kingdom. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Apr 2, 2018 |
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Rent-A-Cop posted:China could absorb a migrant crisis, and nobody but them was interested in bailing out Kim to prevent that. A dozen or more turnkey ICBMs disappearing is a much bigger problem for countries not within rafting distance of North Korea. 40 million north koreans with some disease straina the world hasnt experienced yet, 40 million people with no real skills. Would be the largest migration ine the history of human existence and you think that somehow china could absorb this, or would take the risk to begin with....? You think china would allow small pox to potentially run rampant through the country. You're loving nuts officer
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If you believe the estimate of 25 mil lol this number accounts for half of nk. Population census based on infrastructure capabilities doesnt account for labor camps (5mil) or most rural areaa (another 5 to 6 mil)
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Kavros posted:I know you're already being mocked for this, but which Unexperienced Diseases do you furiously imagine are apparently being housed in the DPRK? quote:infectious disease I dont suspect some mythic diseases, but Nk is a breeding ground for communicable diseaes. Wiki doesnt talk about MERS and Small pox, but both are prevailent in the country aswell. Maybe sitting in America wont give you an idea of why this is a concern, but it is. Its a main concern of china, you know the pop density is so high these diseases potentially could cause new outbreaks in the event of a mass migration. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Apr 3, 2018 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This is an absolute bonkers claim. Are you coming at this from a you don't know what you are saying angle or a super out there conspiracy website told you this angle? You are absolutely right.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Absolutely right that you made a super extreme claim super casually and that you are actually 1000% wrong, or like "you are absolutely right, it's crazy that they have all this smallpox and the government lizards keep covering it up!" ? Only North Korean soldiers are vaccinated against Smallpox out of the entire population, Even during the Korean war North Korea experienced outbreaks of the diseases I listed. To your point, The claim that Korea is a cesspit of diseases that are otherwise vaccinated against in developed countries it not extreme in the slightest. 15 Million Koreans with little access to any healthcare what so ever, and you don't have the slightest inkling feeling that there could be a highly contactable area for otherwise preventable diseases that live inside clothes/bedding for long periods of time could EVER occur? come on, what do you imagine happens in rural rear end North Korean villages, they arent living in mansions. they are living in huts. Huge amount of disease is contractable, there isnt much diversity in North Korea so everyone is very similar DNA wise. and there was never a 1950s style US mass vaccination mass DDT blasting that killed all the malaria, so yes. Contractable diseases that otherwise are eradicated? Yeah I think so. You realize there have been cases of Polio returning due to select children not being vaccinated? you don't think other disease that are Easily contractable due to the fact that they live on clothes and bedding for long periods of time? No lizards.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I still feel like I can't tell where you are on the "doesn't know what smallpox is" to "is actively into some conspiracy thing" spectrum you are falling on. Its very obviius you have a narrow minded view of how diseases are contracted. malaria is still prevailent in NK which was the point of discussing Mosquitos. Small pox lives and breeds in cramped conditiobs. Disease can spread rapidly due to the lack of gene pool diversity. Its not a conspiracy but thats a great buzzword for anything that doesnt conform to your narrow minded opinion. I dont understand what you are trying to counter here. Do you actually believe there are no diseases running rampant in NK?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:No one in north Korea has small pox no matter how cramped their "conditiobs"(???) are or how weak their DNA is. No one has small pox anywhere. No one has had small pox anywhere on earth in 41 years. You are so right dude! All 7 billion people in this world were vaccinated against smallpox and North Koreas were actually the first in line due in no part to the efforts of KJI to eradicate all diseases from North Korea.
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North korea has a great slave trade route too guys. Booming economy. great folks those koreans, love korean bbq. Glad kims giving his people a great deal.
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The cost of building north korea to match the south economically would be massive. Moon doesnt want to be the leader who hobbles his own country to build another state basically. Hed lose out, probablu go to jail lime every other sk leader and a hardliner would take center stage and defang any reunification efforts.
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Chomskyan posted:Again, North Korea ended its missile testing and blew up its nuclear test site. You can argue the value of those concessions, but to say the US has gotten nothing is unambiguously false. So is ending the testing and production of AK-47s going to reduce the amount of AKz in curculation? Nk has enough data to easily produce country defendable nuked or at least lob enough material to defeat viability of ground campaign.
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1014594751625093120 Salami tactics. Were taking this slice by slice.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Between 1950 and 1955 the USSR produced 200 warheads. With presumably more technical knowledge and understanding of the techniques to produce them than the US initially did; and so presumably North Korea might have a better idea than the USSR initially in their mass production. We have no documents showing how shoddy the craftsmanship of those bombs. Yes the soviets produced a lot of bombs, but its not hard to make a bomb that may or may not be effective, however by classification is a nuclear weapon. The US produced bombs that were very effective with a higher succees rate than the soviet model. Does n. korea have a few dozen nukes? Absolutely, but most are theater based projectiles, so not a far distance to succeed in bombing, also having warheads attached to shoddy missile design yes its a nuke, but will it work? WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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If There are north korean scientists working on nuke projects in other countries how would a deal be enforced to stop them from bringing that research back to the current program? Information is the key here not the physical tests. Nk threatening to once again begin nuclear research at home is a bullshit red herring that the american public LOVE to eat up.
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Tias posted:Do you never get tired of making poo poo up? There is no incentive for other states to train NK researchers in weaponization, and they already know how to make the warheads they have. Lmfao dude its the reverse. NK researchers are assisting other countries illegal nuclear programs. They bring their continued research back to Nk to improve upon the homefronts nuclear capabilities. Nk has nukes yes but this does not mean they are not constantly making incrimental improvements to current nuclear tech. Making poo poo up lol get a grip https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/behind-north-koreas-nuclear-advance-scientists-who-bring-technology-home-1504711605 Dude in 2012 NK literally displayed a chinese made KN-08 icbm in a parade.
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Tias posted:You have never not made a post itt that wasn't some chicken little bullshit that came to you in your last weed haze, so forgive me if I'm sceptical. In 2001, the Mossad, Israel's external intelligence service, was profiling newly inducted Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Visits by North Korean dignitaries, which focused on advanced arms deliveries, were noticed. Aman, Israel's military intelligence department, suggested nuclear arms were being discussed, but the Mossad dismissed this theory. In spring 2004, U.S. intelligence reported multiple communications between Syria and North Korea, and traced the calls to a desert location called al-Kibar. Unit 8200, Israel's signals intelligence and codebreaking unit, added the location to its watch list. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Outside_the_Box In 2004, Pakistan’s most famous nuclear scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan, admitted to have transferred nuclear technology to North Korea and other nations, a confession that led to his detainment for five years. These unnerving revelations were reinforced yet again earlier this month by another Pakistani nuclear scientist, Pervez Hoodbhoy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/india/1080927/did-pakistan-help-north-korea-develop-nuclear-weapons-india-us-japan-want-to-know/amp/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%96Pakistan_relations Chicken little poo poo
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