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DJ BK posted:south korean generals salivate at the thought of getting what the north koreans have, and we can't let that happen because japan will bomb the u.s. if they are allowed to have it too I really dont think the ROK want lovely fragile awful Nork bombs that are barely truck mobile when ROK could easily build a modern bomb themselves if they felt like it. It's not like nuclear weapons are arcane magic. icantfindaname posted:How friendly are the SK and Chinese governments? Why would SK agree with China to withdraw itself from geopolitics all for the grand prize of 25 million starving refugees? Even if China gave them money to rebuild it would still be a massive headache at best The big thing to remember about reunification is that Korea has been a unified cultural nation-state for hundreds of years. The East/West German split was inflicted on a nation that had existed for less than a hundred years among a culture famous for its high degree of fragmentation, where different dialects are practically different languages. If you look at Korea from a cold war influenced western perspective you see a clear divide that the Koreans likely see as more of a temporary jurisdictional division. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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TheBalor posted:I live in Gimpo. In the extremely unlikely event that anything does happen, how hosed am I by living right by an airport less than an hour from the border? I'd keep an emergency evac bag handy just in case but any hostilities would quickly turn sour for the North. They can't compete.
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whatever7 posted:How many years do you think it will take for New York to get a faster commuter railroad to Westchester/Long Island? Probably never? Why is it that New York basically got 80% of the its infrastructure done in the 50s through Robert Moses and everything afterward is just as slow and impossible as the Big Dig? a lot of what bob moses did was unethical if not illegal quote:Although Moses was never elected to any public office (his only attempt at public office came when he ran for governor of New York as a Republican in 1934 and lost by a significant margin), he was responsible for the creation and leadership of numerous public authorities which gave him autonomy from the general public and elected officials. It is due to Moses that New York has a greater proportion of public benefit corporations than any other US state, making them the prime mode of infrastructure building and maintenance in New York, accounting for 90% of the state's debt. As head of various authorities, he controlled millions in income from his projects' revenue generation, such as tolls, and he had the power to issue bonds to borrow vast sums, allowing him to initiate new ventures with little or no input from legislative bodies. This allowed him to circumvent the power of the purse as it normally functioned in the United States, and the process of citizen comment on major public works. a true hero of the people
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JeffersonClay posted:China sees South Korea as a giant imperialist beachhead and views NK as a giant minefield/meat grinder that invading forces would have to fight through to reach China itself. woah, what's it like posting from 1955? china doesn't want a destabilization of the koreas because there's only one place for millions of NK refugees to flee towards. china's big enough now that it doesn't need buffer states to secure national defense
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JeffersonClay posted:Having NK as a buffer doesn't preclude the Chinese from fighting in their own territory, it forces an aggressor to fight through hundreds of miles of rugged terrain, being blooded the entire time, before they can set foot on Chinese territory. Defense in depth is a thing. woah i didn't know tom clancy's corpse posted here
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tsa posted:It's pretty humorous how people and moreso the Obama administration focus on Iran, a country that is hardly a good actor but is certainly not a crazy one, yet the threat of NK has consistently been laughed away or completely ignored(just check this thread for examples). Yet if the government doesn't collapse (unlikely) and China can't find some balls (highly likely) at the current rate it's only a matter of time before they make the blast bigger and the size smaller. And a delivery device to go with it. This poo poo gets easier and easier by the day, the most difficult part is the fuel and if they ramp that production up a functional nuke program (rather than experimental) could come much quicker than a lot of people seem to think. But even if we are still 20 years out (which is probably optimistic), what exactly is the plan? The current one seems to be to pray to god the regime collapses and kicking the can. so what exactly do you think would happen if north korea launched a couple of nukes at japan or the us, that somehow didn't malfunction. what would happen afterwards? why would north korea do this in the first place?
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Uncle Jam posted:What key component do you think North Korea lacks that makes them forever unable to do it? You can't export control physics. building nukes is hard, miniaturizing them is harder. north korea is a lot more isolated than pakistan ever was, making it difficult to build up the human expertise necessary to pull off such a complex project if you have missile capable nukes, you definitely take pictures of them and show them off because concrete evidence of your deterrence capacity is a deterrent in and of itself. the fact that north korea is being all "uhh yeah we have nukes, of course we do, but you can't see them they're uh sleeping" is pretty telling about the current progress of their nuclear program
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Main Paineframe posted:For this point, you don't need to look any farther than Israel, which refuses to officially confirm or deny that it does or does not have nuclear weapons (but everyone knows it does). They don't say anything about their nuclear deterrent or even claim that they have one; just coyly dancing around the subject is enough. israel's in the situation where they dont want to spur their most likely adversaries to get nukes of their own - if israel was balls out, saudia arabia and iran would be all about it however, north korea's biggest adversaries - the us, south korea, and japan, and maybe kinda sorta china - all have nukes or share nukes the big reason to own nukes is so that other people think twice before invading you. israel already has military superiority, and wants to keep that nuke secret as an ace in the hole. north korea needs to desperately catch up with nukes to secure themselves from an (unlikely) invasion and also to extract concessions, both of which would be easier if north korea could point menacingly at a credible nuclear warhead Uncle Jam posted:Yes it's difficult to do but it's possible. They launched a satellite, which is also difficult. Also, while north Korea is completely cut from the US, they enjoy business relationships with many other countries. Not only that, but NK is always inviting over foreign professors and things like PUST exist. read more carefully dude - im not saying they can't. i'm saying that north korea hasn't demonstrated any capacity greater than basically a nuclear VBIED. we have no idea how bulky the actual north korean bomb is so we don't know what they can do with it. just making a nuclear explosive isn't as hard as making one that can be strapped to a missile boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Uncle Jam posted:Yeah but the main point isn't about north korea having nukes today, but that nothing is really blocking them from moving along a path towards nukes, and it is really hard to see how anyone would block them. if you're worried about a weird isolated dictator just throwing a nuke for giggles, well, putin has thousands of them
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chitoryu12 posted:Are you talking about the "second part" being an occupation? Because I'm pretty sure most of the reason the occupation was a shitshow was because the area's instability led to a massive amount of anti-American and sectarian insurgent violence, and the US leaving created a power vacuum in a destabilized Middle East that created a place for ISIS to form. The reasons I find that unlikely in North Korea: i dont disagree with what you posted, but on the other hand, a ton of north korean state propaganda is based on the united states invading and brutalizing the populace. now very little of that was true (we preferred mass destruction of civilians from the air) and it's increasingly unlikely that your average north korean joe kim sees america in those kinds of monstrous terms, but were we to invade and if we behaved like we did in iraq we would quickly become literal Boogeymen validating all the worst fears of north korean propaganda like, saddam wasn't putting up posters of american troops throwing iraqi babies into wells iirc
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