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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

That three-way fight was probably carefully choreographed and looked really neat. Too bad it involved three people in black suits against a dark background.

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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I think I've gotten my people mixed up. Who was getting sworn in as mayor at the start of this season during Moira's funeral?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Aphrodite posted:

Moira's funeral was last season. That was Blood.

I think I saw a Youtube clip of it, which is why I remember seeing it more recently and assumed Blood had to be alive after Summer Glau died. I'm following something like six dramas at once right now, so I guess I slipped a brain cell or two.

Bruceski fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Nov 2, 2014

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

They should have checked the arrows for fingerprints.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Clearly Felicity's dad is Wells from Flash.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I think Felicity's there as sort of an on-demand specialist anyway. So far the only work we've seen her doing is repairing a hard drive everyone else thought was scrap and being a sounding board for the boss.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

JohnSherman posted:

She does if the job is an excuse for the current CEO to hit on her.

I still can't decide if the guy is actively hitting on her or just clueless about how it looks because his brain is focused on ten other things.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rocksicles posted:

i had a female friend ask me on facebook yesterday if i watched Arrow, i said, "yeah, how good is The Flash?"
"What's a Flash...?"

Women and comics...

Flash needs a salmon ladder to get that demographic.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Drifter posted:

I'm saying that I'm wondering how long that she will continue to be crap. FOr the next rest of the season? It was easy to wave away Thea and her six months of training because of the season break.

And ot be honest, I'm not exactly looking forward to watching Laurel beat up drunk people at bars - because those are the only people who couldn't kick her rear end - or watching anyone babysit her while she hits people in the head with her baton. I'm just curious how they're going to deal with her.

This season she'll be crap, next season she'll get skilled but be alcoholic again, and in the last season she'll be skilled and sober but inexplicably run over a kitten every time she gets into a car.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Hypocrisy posted:

I really like Roy for just coming out and saying that he thought he killed Sarah.

I agree. Good on tem for not making it secret angst for 20 episodes. Of course now Laurel still thinks he did, and everyone else thinks he might not have, and if this show didn't move its plots at Arrow speed I'd be afraid they would keep this drama for a while.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Maybe Felicity put a large electromagnet on the other side of Sarah, and pulled the arrows into her.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Detective No. 27 posted:

I have two theories who the killer could be.
1. Ollie's Japanese handler guy in Hong Kong whose name escapes me at the moment. I don't know why he'd do it, but there's still lots of Hong Kong flashbacks to get through.
2. Tommy Merlyn. Sure, he had a building fall on him, but death didn't stop his father from coming back, and they have ties to Ra's, whose entire gimmick is coming back to life.
3. Harrison Wells.

Firing from a wheelchair would explain the odd angle.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

The trailer after the show was all about the crossover on the 2nd. Is Arrow skipping next week?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Aphrodite posted:

The weather is going to knock out my signal for the episode tonight.

drat it Barry you were supposed to fix this like 6 episodes ago.

Being late is like a superpower of his.

Am I the only one who assumed that Ollie was too self-absorbed too notice Barry's feelings for Iris and instead was warning him off of Felicity because Ollie's a dick like that?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Some Numbers posted:

Arrow needs a between-series show where every episode is "what is X person doing right now?" and has guest stars reprising their roles.

Only if it has a full half-hour of Slade sitting in his cell waiting.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

There weren't multiple boomerang puns, there was just one and it kept coming around again.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Two Tone Shoes posted:

Please.

Deathstroke would just trip him.

In the dead of night Slade breaks into Star labs, sneaks past a sleeping Wells and ties the shoelaces of Barry's suit together.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

By the way, I assume I wasn't the only one who started singing Eye of the Tiger when the last episode ended?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC52KBgm5dY for uncultured swine who didn't get the reference.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

MildShow posted:

It'd probably be more palatable if they did an "only mostly dead" thing and that Lazarus Pits have super healing properties or something.

"There's no time, we need to get him to help before he goes completely dead!"
"A Lazarus pit?"
"No, Miracle Max."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I can't even get people to stop pronouncing my state ore-gone, so Ra's isn't a fight I'm willing to pick.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

devoir posted:

That can't be Amell on the end?

He'ss off Scrooging it up in the Arrowcave.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Between Raysh Al Ghul and Shee Na Whee I'm hoping that the season ends with both past and present Oliver mispronouncing their names to piss them off and make them slip up.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Aphrodite posted:

Right, but I mean did they ever go into detail?

I'm just curious if like... she washed up in whatever country Nanda Parbat is in and was found there, or what.

I believe they've said that some of the flashbacks either this or next season will involve Sara and the League, but I could have been mistaken or that could be fan speculation. Between this show, Flash and AoSHIELD I simply can't keep things fact and fancy straight anymore.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

That link between the two shows really helps flesh the universe out a bit. It's the same reason I like the MCU and Agents of Shield all tying into each other -- even when they're not hamhandedly cramming in references to each other it just feels like the world is bigger than where the camera happens to be looking.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Sober posted:

Would be hilarious if the show was called ATOM for a while coming out of the holiday, and Oliver was relegated only to the last 5 minutes of each episode while Ray Palmer basically hires Team Arrow (Roy included).

I was disappointed they didn't have an ATOM or AESENAL title panel to put up at the end of the episode.

Flash's trailer for the next season: *scenes of Barry running fast and the Rogues*
Arrow's trailer for next season: "Oliver Queen is dead. See you January 22."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I think we need a gif of this moment (without the text of course), Ollie's expression is priceless:

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I did not expect that they could make "Malcom Merlyn did it. Again." a plot twist I wouldn't see coming, but there ya go. Can't believe I fell for the old "I didn't kill Sarah" trick.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Boogaleeboo posted:

He gets increasingly chumped as time goes on and every writer wants to show how cool Dick or Tim is, but generally speaking Batman is the only person that gives him a run for his money. Which is why he wants the Bat-D in his daughter and Batman to take his position. And Batman is a loving crazy person. Like Ollie actually has a life and occasionally tries to think about the bigger issues behind societal decay and what drives people to crime in the books, Batman just works out and kicks poo poo in the throat harder. It's perfectly fine for Ollie not to be able to walk all over the greatest killer that has ever lived, because that's all Ra's is or will ever be. He's a man even his family calls "The Demon", would anyone really want to give up all he did to be that good? It's perfectly fine for Ollie to go "Fuuuuuuuuuuck that" and just get like 9 people together to drop him. It's not a character flaw to want to be more than a best killer you can be.

I half expected that when Ollie got backed up against the cliff Diggle would show up in a helicopter with a pistol.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

"My name is Barry Allen, and one month ago I was asked to fill in on this voice-over thing."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.


Wait, that mountain was supposed to be in Nanda Parbat?

"You have 12 hours to put your affairs in order, then one hour to fly halfway around the world and climb a loving mountain?"

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Eddain posted:

Master of deception.

So CLEARLY I cannot choose the photoshop in front of me.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I loved the delivery, like Ra's knew exactly how it was going to end from the moment Ollie walked into the room and how he almost felt bad about having to kill someone with so much left to live for because of Merlyn.

"You seem a decent fellow, I hate to kill you."
"You seem a decent fellow, I hate to die."

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Whalley posted:

That line delivery was goddamn impeccable. Anyone else on the planet would have said it dismissively or as a brag; he just sounded disappointed and tired and it said so much about this version of Ra's Al Ghul. Up until then, I kept telling my wife "dammit, why isn't Pedro Pascal playing Ra's?" and then just that one single line sold this actor, and character, to me so loving hard.

His "I killed my first man when I was seven" speech was great too. Not boasting, not glorifying it, simply a statement of necessity.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Rocksicles posted:

Lazy editing, isn't the signage on the wrong side for America?

That's what clues you in? The side of the road the backwards speed limit sign is on?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Mr Beens posted:

When are we back on air?

Flash Jan 20, Arrow Jan 21

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Arrow gets Starling City, Flash gets Central City, Atom gets Feli City.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

When you use the Speed Force near a Lazarus Pit it gives some people superpowers. Problem solved.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

VDay posted:

Didn't see anyone mention it but Amell is on Kimmel tonight.

Kimmel? Did he lose a bet?

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

That was a great fakeout having Barrowman there as well though. I really thought it was Malcom's leg in those promo shots. Instead he just did a little once-over of the mountaintop.

"I could check for a body but I'd have to climb aaaaaalll the way down there. Meh, my scheme works even without a corpse."

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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Chile peppers are superior to chili.

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