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Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
thread still alive

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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Should be.


Tried it in VR and its great. Simpler aircraft makes it more natural to run in VR over DCS.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
I haven't bought it yet, but Battle of Normandy is officially out of early access. Looks like a good module for later-war German, British and US planes. They also advertise big changes to the damage modeling for all planes. At some point I'll stop being too old and tired to play this game.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
I hope this brings the ability for a Battle of Britain scenario within Great Battles. It would be cool to do a full war scenario from start to finish.

I know CoD exists but GB is superior imo if only for the UI and controls.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

dialhforhero posted:

I hope this brings the ability for a Battle of Britain scenario within Great Battles. It would be cool to do a full war scenario from start to finish.

I know CoD exists but GB is superior imo if only for the UI and controls.

I wholly agree, but the devs have said it's not going to happen as they do not want to compete with CloD. :(

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
This is the first IL-2 module I didn't buy early access. Idk I just really want them to do pacific theater at this point. I don't really need more German/American planes.

I'll pick it up when it goes on sale.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Popete posted:

This is the first IL-2 module I didn't buy early access. Idk I just really want them to do pacific theater at this point. I don't really need more German/American planes.

I'll pick it up when it goes on sale.

While I did but it on early access, I echo your sentiments about the planeset and theater. I've had some fun with the razorback Thunderbolt, but the rest of it is really ho-hum. I just cannot seem to really get into this game. I go in spats where I'll play a bit, but then I drop it for ages. I didn't realize for three or four days that Normandy had dropped.

I think the core issue is that single player is an afterthought and that's all I really play. Sure, they've added career modes and the advanced QMB, but the core SP gameplay is boring. The braindead AI, enemies with omniscient spotting, and the goddamn awful radio calls ("ROUGHMAN. 2IMONfirebailingout") all conspire to make me put the game away pretty quickly after dusting it off.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
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So the C-47 is a thing now :toot:

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer
Seems like they may be gearing up to announce the Pacific theater is coming next. Their recent dev blogs talk about spending a lot of time upgrading the engine to keep pace with other flight sims.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

Popete posted:

Seems like they may be gearing up to announce the Pacific theater is coming next. Their recent dev blogs talk about spending a lot of time upgrading the engine to keep pace with other flight sims.

Didn't Jason just come out recently to adamantly denounce the idea of Pacific stuff? They've said for years that they don't have enough flight data on Japanese planes to develop them to their "exacting standards" or some such... and carriers are absolutely impossible™ right? I would absolutely love to see a Pacific campaign with or without carriers, but they've been pretty forthcoming in saying that they're not interested in it despite the fact that quite a few of the Allied a/c present in the early war Pacific campaign have already been modeled.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
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Honestly just replacing CoD by having it be in the Great Battles series would be fine by me. Massive bomber formations from early to late war would be rad as hell.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Gewehr 43 posted:

Didn't Jason just come out recently to adamantly denounce the idea of Pacific stuff? They've said for years that they don't have enough flight data on Japanese planes to develop them to their "exacting standards" or some such... and carriers are absolutely impossible™ right? I would absolutely love to see a Pacific campaign with or without carriers, but they've been pretty forthcoming in saying that they're not interested in it despite the fact that quite a few of the Allied a/c present in the early war Pacific campaign have already been modeled.

So this was from a recent devblog. I suppose it's probably not Pacific but I'm curios what the new theater will be if it needs to be refreshed in the public memory.

quote:

Fourth, we have already started the creation of the technical design documents for the new aircraft and one of these aircraft is already in development. The work on new pilots models is already underway. The pre-production of the new map has started - our designers are doing various research on the new area. This work is very extensive and complex because the chosen theatre of war is very interesting and visually appealing. But the reference documents and materials are not easy to come by. In fact, as it was before in our team experience, it looks like we'll not only create a new memorable realistic combat sim, but make a contribution to the history as a science by uncovering new data. At the very least we'll do our part in refreshing the public memory of these events.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011

Popete posted:

So this was from a recent devblog. I suppose it's probably not Pacific but I'm curios what the new theater will be if it needs to be refreshed in the public memory.

Maybe they're referring to the aerial combat depicted in the 2012 documentary 'Iron Sky'? I don't think the theatre has been touched by anyone else since then :v:
(But yeah, hopefully the Pacific will get some attention sooner or later. Even if there aren't any carriers and it's just using island-based airfields, or something)

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer
I'll hazard a guess and say I think it will be the air war over China. Wouldn't require carriers and they already have the P-40 and I-16 for China to use.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





My guess is Italy. No one knows poo poo about Italy. Less than Africa. China sounds cool too though.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011

Popete posted:

I'll hazard a guess and say I think it will be the air war over China. Wouldn't require carries and they already have the P-40 and I-16 for China to use.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Hopefully they do Spain at some point, too. I don't know about you, but I'd love to fly an I-16 over the streets of Madrid!

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Why do they say it’s impossible to do carriers?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer

Major Isoor posted:

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Hopefully they do Spain at some point, too. I don't know about you, but I'd love to fly an I-16 over the streets of Madrid!

Spain would be very cool! Not so hot on Italy myself but I think that's also a likely candidate.

I really just want to get back into the Pacific even if it starts with China and no carriers. Get me into a zero again.

I wonder if they're worried about doing carrier battles properly with the maps just being large stretches of open water and not very conducive to making a campaign. I think if they did something centered around Guadalcanal that could be really neat too and maybe you don't need carriers? Although Rabaul is pretty far away so I doubt you fit all that on one map.

Popete fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Nov 24, 2022

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Not implementing carriers is just a means to hide from having to code a carrier working properly.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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MrMojok posted:

Why do they say it’s impossible to do carriers?

because waves iirc

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003

MrMojok posted:

Why do they say it’s impossible to do carriers?

"~x#reasons#x~" to paraphrase.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
Given DCS implementation of carriers they could be right :v:

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer
After much hype IL-2 has announced it's next big project.

Operation Overlord

quote:

At the player’s disposal is a map measuring 346 by 311 kilometers (the area, therefore, is almost 108 thousand square kilometers), on which there are about a hundred unique airfields. The British coast, a significant piece of Normandy, and the strait between them are completely accessible for flights. Chronologically, the career mode covers the period from April 15 to August 22, 1944. That is, it will be possible to take part in preparations for the landing, and in D-Day itself, and in subsequent battles until the actual completion of the Normandy operation, and the assault of allied troops deep into the continent. The situation at the front and the appearance of the terrain will change as the game time moves in accordance with how real historical events developed. For example, flying over the beaches after landing, you will notice how temporary wharves are being built on them to help the transfer of the bulk of the troops. The weather also, where possible, repeats the real one, according to archival data. In other words, the game offers the maximum historically reliable immersion in the era, achievable with the currently existing technologies.

You can play as an American, British, or German pilot and choose from a large number of real-life squadrons that took part in the Normandy operation. You can choose an ordinary pilot who is responsible only for himself and his crew, or become a flight commander and get virtual subordinates at your disposal. In addition to the already familiar types of objectives, such as intercepting enemy aircraft, escorting your own, and bombing targets, there will be new ones that have never been seen in Sturmovik before.

Eight new aircraft (plus two premium ones) will be available for piloting. It might seem to be not much, but it should be borne in mind that in the modern Sturmovik some modifications of the aircraft are considered variants of the same model and are switched in the vehicle settings, right in the hangar. In other words, in some other flight simulators, and even in the classic Sturmovik of the 2000s, this set would be considered two or even three dozen aircraft.

Gotta say, I was really hoping for a new theater. Not sure why they went with another D-Day expansion after they just put out Normandy. Kinda disappointing.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer
How many BF-109 variants are even left? I'm pretty sure they're just making up new ones at this point.

Alikchi
Aug 18, 2010

Thumbs up I agree

Bf109 Q7 with 50mm cannon and RATO pods

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Grimey Drawer
I'll leave it up as a monument to me being bad at reading but apparently that was just an ad for Battle of Normandy and not a newly announced expansion.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





There's no way this is the poo poo they were talking about before right?

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Popete posted:

I'll leave it up as a monument to me being bad at reading but apparently that was just an ad for Battle of Normandy and not a newly announced expansion.

Man, I don't blame you, because I read that fuckin thing three times to figure out what they were actually announcing, if anything.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Squiggle posted:

Man, I don't blame you, because I read that fuckin thing three times to figure out what they were actually announcing, if anything.

Glad I'm not the only one. Also didn't Battle of Normandy come out months ago? Kinda odd to put out a press release announcing it now and then give it an alternate name.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Honestly? I STILL don't know if that's announcing something new or not

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
That is Paradise Garage levels of "hella words about nothing."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5laG1E0Q4b8

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

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Squiggle posted:

Honestly? I STILL don't know if that's announcing something new or not

I asked on their forums and a moderator confirmed it was just a Battle of Normandy ad.

Kind of funny cause everyone has been waiting for them to announce their hyped up next theater/battle/project.

Chuck_D
Aug 25, 2003
I don't have high hopes for the future of the series since it was bought out and the new owners drove Jason out.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

Popete posted:

How many BF-109 variants are even left? I'm pretty sure they're just making up new ones at this point.

Sadly we got like forty to go. Some of them just had a different radio.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
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Probably going to get back into this for a bit since I decided to gently caress around and buy a couple throttle quadrants and a yoke so I can fully immerse myself in a c-47.

Anyone want to do some bombers/sky-truckers with me soon? Would be cool to have about 3-4 A-20s or HE-111s or just massively resupply all airfields in Finnish with cargo and then some fighter escorts, too.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Popete posted:

Glad I'm not the only one. Also didn't Battle of Normandy come out months ago? Kinda odd to put out a press release announcing it now and then give it an alternate name.

the most significant thing about the announcement is that they seem to be focusing on making a campaign thats similar to the ones in Rise of Flight

but iirc the devs did an interview and didnt want to say what the next major theater was until they were sure they could do it

itll be another decade before we see pacific campaign probably even though that'd be the easiest thing ever to map once they figure out carriers lol

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
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Assuming they won’t do a BoFrance or BoBritain or North Africa so they don’t compete with CloD, that leaves Italy, the Balkans, and China.

I would assume Italy first since it may be less new assets to create and it is more known and fits with the EuroTheater. And there are those weirdos who like Italian planes.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
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Italian planes ate like Italian cars and if you don't like them you just don't like planes or cars :mad:

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

Italian planes ate like Italian cars and if you don't like them you just don't like planes or cars :mad:

Tell me more about the love for, and quality of, Fiat.

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Shine
Feb 26, 2007

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dialhforhero posted:

Tell me more about the love for, and quality of, Fiat.

Fix... it... again...

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