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This is going to be a shitshow of a thread. Try to tell people the difference between driving after 24 hours of work and two drinks. Without bringing local law enforcement's prejudices into question. I really like the idea that one can interact with the community at a bar and use public transportation. (please let this happen)
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If it is impossible for you to get behind the mentality of someone who decided to drive drunk, you might not have the best perspective to preventing the problem of driving drunk. Somewhere in High School it became a moral panic driven into a lot of student drivers during training by gruesome videos and public speeches. This makes it an acceptable moral target for the most draconian measures from goons that normally would advocate a less punitive measures as the American justice system is incredibly punitive as it is. If anything, a slight lapse in judgment killing people might highlight how stupid it is to base our entire transit system around individually piloted battering rams that are incredibly dangerous regardless of if a drink was consumed or not. That guy earlier from Germany that advanced the reasonable solution of having a test administered by a physician before your suspension would be lifted sounds like a really decent idea focused on preventing future problems instead of repeated financial hammerings to the skull.
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Oct 11, 2014 17:43
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SedanChair posted:So, often pro-gun folks point out that cars are deadly and require just as much responsibility as guns, and are pooh-pooed by people who say "well you need a car to do things!!" The poor can't hire someone to drive for them. Generally speaking you don't need a gun to hold down a job. This is not a thread about gun arguments. Captain Mog posted:Scaring people is an effective deterrent and always has been. I'm laughing at this one. Tell me more how punitive punishment terrifies people into compliance.
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Oct 13, 2014 21:00
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SedanChair posted:An economy that requires drunk potential killers to drive cars is an unsustainable and an immoral one. I don't see any need to worry about such drunks getting to work. Guns are dangerous, cars are dangerous, but in both cases the victims are dead and I don't see how "but we need them to get to our JIAAAABZ" Are you trying to erect flaccid straw men to joust at for your own self esteem or perhaps you might be young/insulated enough to never have actually met someone that drove drunk once. I seriously agree with you half of the time when you're not trying to spin outrage out of a muddled issue.
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Oct 14, 2014 06:10
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