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DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.
Lose your license permanently once your combined BAC of all violations passes 0.4%

Provides some leeway for people unlucky enough to be convicted of the laughably low, yet still illegal, 0.08% violations and punishes those quickly who drive while obviously intoxicated with 0.2% BAC.

After your third 0.08% infraction, maybe it's time to stop driving after any drinks because you clearly suck enough at driving to continually get pulled over.

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DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Nevvy Z posted:

To be fair most people advocating for doing these things are also advocating for these things being made viable options for everyone.

You ever been outside the big city? A single bus stops in my town twice a day. Once in each direction. There is no "viable option". The advocates you talk about only can achieve prohibition.

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Wade Wilson posted:

If you can't afford to do either, you probably shouldn't be drinking to begin with.

So prohibition, but only for the poor.

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.

Wade Wilson posted:

No. More along the lines of "stop making stupid decisions" or "Plan to get wasted when you also have a place to sleep it off" and not "Get wasted, attempt to drive self home" because that is beyond moronic.
How many drinks qualify for your version of "wasted"?

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EDIT: We've had "Drink Responsibly" campaigns for decades, where (outside of ads for specific products) the emphasis is on having a Designated Driver or a nearby friend's place you can crash at without having to drive there. It should be at the point of near-instinctual conditioning by now, kind of like the "look both ways before crossing the street" types of conditioning we're all put through as kids.

What does "nearby" mean to you? half a mile? two miles? ten miles? Sad how so many people can't appreciate just how sparse most of America is. A DD making a two hour loop to drop off a car full of people who each had four beers during a Monday night football game just isn't ever going to happen, no matter how livelihood destroying your make the prospect of losing a license for blowing a .08.

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