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  Update TimeEpisode 56 - The Faenal Showdown with ChaosArgate and hitbox stream chat. Thank you, friends. I really mean it.
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May 24, 2015 20:05
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I could have sworn you could use the longshot to stun Ganondorf so you can smack him, but it doesn't seem so. Anyway congrats on beating Ocarina of Time!
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May 24, 2015 22:24
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You can hookshot to his cape, but that's it. The bunny slippers are probably the best way for a normal person to get across though. Anyway grats on beating it and it's refreshing to know opps wrong button still happens at the very end of this whole thing. Gives me hope for Geop.
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May 24, 2015 23:01
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I'm a little surprised that ChaosArgate hadn't seen Ganondorf's spirit bomb attack before. The best way to deal with it isn't really the spin attack, just shove a Light Arrow up his nose while he's charging.
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May 24, 2015 23:19
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I never knew about the spirt bomb, or Phantom Ganon's Psycho Crusher. Or how useful Deku Nuts were. This and Chaos mode were truly informative. e: also, which video did Panzer commentate on? FeyerbrandX fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 24, 2015 |
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May 24, 2015 23:30
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YggiDee posted:I'm a little surprised that ChaosArgate hadn't seen Ganondorf's spirit bomb attack before. The best way to deal with it isn't really the spin attack, just shove a Light Arrow up his nose while he's charging. Yeah, I'm super surprised too. I was spamming the chat with variants of "shoot him" and had literally no idea the spin attack would do anything.
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May 24, 2015 23:32
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He's legit never done it to me.  Sorry if I ignored anyone in chat, I tried to do the commentary as I usually did.FeyerbrandX posted:e: also, which video did Panzer commentate on? Jabu Jabu's Belly and Fire Temple.
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May 25, 2015 00:12
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ChaosArgate posted:He's legit never done it to me. That's totally fine. If you're quick with your Light Arrows and hit him really fast, you can probably beat him without ever seeing the attack. And yeah, I totally get that the chat was going really fast and you guys couldn't read everything.
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May 25, 2015 00:30
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When big ganon does his horizontal sword slash, you can backflip over it.
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May 25, 2015 00:31
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YggiDee posted:I'm a little surprised that ChaosArgate hadn't seen Ganondorf's spirit bomb attack before. The best way to deal with it isn't really the spin attack, just shove a Light Arrow up his nose while he's charging. The Light Arrows might be the best way to respond to that attack, but deflecting all of Ganondorf's blasts with the spin attack is the coolest way to deal with it. 
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May 25, 2015 00:43
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I see that through it all, Fae and I share the same great weakness in 3D adventure games/3D platforming. Depth perception Still, good job kicking rear end Fae. It is total bullshit that Link doesn't get to go to the sweet party after doing basically all of the work though  Also, sweet Jesus I forgot how long the tennis back and forth could go for a single shot 
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May 25, 2015 01:41
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KieranWalker posted:The Light Arrows might be the best way to respond to that attack, but deflecting all of Ganondorf's blasts with the spin attack is the coolest way to deal with it. I think doing it stuns him longer too.
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May 25, 2015 02:14
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I chose a good time to start following this LP! I just caught up right as this video was posted. Good playthrough.
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May 25, 2015 03:14
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I wonder why there isn't a Legend of Zelda tennis game yet?
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May 25, 2015 03:29
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Nihilarian posted:I wonder why there isn't a Legend of Zelda tennis game yet? Because Link would always win? Or he gets disqualified for using a sword/bottle/bug net/etc.
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May 25, 2015 03:36
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YggiDee posted:Because Link would always win? Or he gets disqualified for using a sword/bottle/bug net/etc. Maybe he could try out for Lacrosse instead?
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May 25, 2015 03:43
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This was a good thread, congrats on beating the game! Also, did the single redead at the end of the escape crack anyone else up or was it just me?
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May 25, 2015 05:06
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The redead is the Marauder Shields of Ocarina of Time
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May 25, 2015 05:46
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Congrats Fae! This has definitely been the best OoT Let's Play. I can't wait for your next LP, that game looks weird as hell. And then Majora's Mask may very well be an exercise in shadenfraude.  Also, way back when I think I heard mention you and ChaosArgate might comment over the world record speed run? It's kinda insane and puts Chaos Edition to shame and is definitely worth watching.
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May 25, 2015 06:56
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I think it's implied that the castle collapse is supposed to be more like an actual castle collapsing should be, falling apart and crushing anybody in there, much like it looks like after the cutscene is over instead of just at the end of the cutscene. It's just a limitation of the N64 that they couldn't render every part crumbling to bits. If you hadn't escaped and stayed on top, you would have certainly been buried and crushed under rubble with the weight of the most of the tower. As an aside, I've read a theory that in the timeline branch LTTP is in where Link fails, it's right in that fight against Ganon, and that the reason is that Navi didn't manage to rally and assist Link. It usually gets cut close even with faries. If you lacked Z-targeting, you'd die more likely than not. Once I grasped how important Navi is like that, I gained much more of a new respect. She might be a bit too eager to help, but without her helping at all, you're facing the BAD END.
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May 25, 2015 08:23
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Faylone posted:As an aside, I've read a theory that in the timeline branch LTTP is in where Link fails, it's right in that fight against Ganon, and that the reason is that Navi didn't manage to rally and assist Link. It usually gets cut close even with faries. If you lacked Z-targeting, you'd die more likely than not. Once I grasped how important Navi is like that, I gained much more of a new respect. She might be a bit too eager to help, but without her helping at all, you're facing the BAD END. Maybe, almost... it'd have to have been a different version of this fight where Ganondorf comes in and fights you just as you enter the sword chamber, before you ever pull the sword from the stone. LttP says that in it's timeline, the Master Sword was never drawn during the Sealing War, so if it was the Navi buster that made him win, he must have decided he wasn't above killing children after all despite all previous evidence to the contrary. I was really hoping that Hyrule Warriors would take place during the Sealing War without the help of Link or the Master Sword, but alas. One day, one day we'll get a war game of some sort where we can play out the Sealing War without Link's help. Maybe Zelda can even be the player's protagonist for a change. Errr... sorry for mentioning timeline stuff. I know some of you have PTSD, so... retroactive trigger warning?
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May 25, 2015 09:00
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Hey Fae, when you were saying that Ganon was being rude, I couldn't help but think of that song by Magic! How does it go? Why he [Ganon] gotta be so rude? Don't he know you're Hylian too? ... I regret nothing.
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May 25, 2015 09:37
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Now play it again Fae, and play it properly. For those of you who don't know, the proper way to play it is to dick around for 10 hours after leaving the Kokiri Forest, exploring, collecting heart pieces, and doing sidequests.
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May 25, 2015 09:38
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I never gave much thought to that ending at the time (being ~10 and all that), but... Gannondorf isn't defeated yet, right? He's still a few months away from conquering Hyrule and reducing castle town to rubble and zombies. Why did the princess come out of hiding?
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May 25, 2015 10:46
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Dzhay posted:I never gave much thought to that ending at the time (being ~10 and all that), but... Gannondorf isn't defeated yet, right? He's still a few months away from conquering Hyrule and reducing castle town to rubble and zombies. Why did the princess come out of hiding? I think the idea is that Link is sent back further he usually does when he reverts to a child (so when he meets Zelda at the end of the credits that's child Zelda's first meeting with Link) then using his knowledge of the future he somehow convinced Zelda and the king of what Ganondorf is up to and he is captured (since Link doesn't open the door of time this time I guess Ganondorf doesn't have the power to stop them at this point) and he is later executed which leads to Twilight Princess. This does bring up an odd question though of whether Ganondorf has still done some bad poo poo by this point, or if he is captured and executed for crimes he hasn't committed yet.
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May 25, 2015 11:38
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Dzhay posted:I never gave much thought to that ending at the time (being ~10 and all that), but... Gannondorf isn't defeated yet, right? He's still a few months away from conquering Hyrule and reducing castle town to rubble and zombies. Why did the princess come out of hiding? I don't think he's "defeated" in the way its normally used -- as a euphemism for being dead -- but he's locked up in the Home for Infinite Losers or wherever it was he went. I'm not sure why nobody outright killed him, I guess because the good guys show mercy or something? I'm not really sure.
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May 25, 2015 12:43
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Being able to tell the secrets of opening the door of time before any of the royal family had seemingly taught him would give credentials as having had them give him the info somehow. This gives him a believability far beyond "Deku Tree sent me, but he's dead and can't confirm this" and "Zelda had a dream" Furthermore, Link's fought Ganondorf and knows how he fights, so he'd be far more able to help in leading a trap for the impending betrayal. They could set it up so as soon as he tries to make a move and off the king, he gets beat the gently caress down by Link and the best of the soldiers who would be prepped instead of it being a surprise attack where they weren't ready. Twilight Princess has some cutscene that covers what happens once he's finally beaten in the child time line and it involves them loving stabbing him with a sword of light trying to kill him, but he's JUST TOO drat TOUGH, so they seal him up. Zelda gives Link the OoT as a gift and then Link goes off to Termina, possibly to escape having to marry anybody
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May 25, 2015 13:19
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Faerie Fortune posted:I don't think he's "defeated" in the way its normally used -- as a euphemism for being dead -- but he's locked up in the Home for Infinite Losers or wherever it was he went. I'm not sure why nobody outright killed him, I guess because the good guys show mercy or something? I'm not really sure. They can't kill him, he's got the triforce of power. Best they can do is lock him up in the sacred realm. Thinking about it, that's probably where the dark world from LttP came from.
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May 25, 2015 13:24
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I know Fae is going to do another game first, but I can't wait until she plays my favorite Zelda game. Seriously, Majora's Mask is the best of the bunch for sheer feels induced.
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May 25, 2015 14:04
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BattleCattle posted:Thinking about it, that's probably where the dark world from LttP came from. I think that's canonically where the Dark World is supposed to come from. It used to be the Sacred Realm, but Ganon corrupted it.
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May 25, 2015 17:08
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Iunnrais posted:I know Fae is going to do another game first, but I can't wait until she plays my favorite Zelda game. Seriously, Majora's Mask is the best of the bunch for sheer feels induced. We're never gonna see any of them.
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May 25, 2015 18:17
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InspectorCarbonara posted:Do you mean in the world that child Link returns to?
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May 25, 2015 18:51
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Faylone posted:As an aside, I've read a theory that in the timeline branch LTTP is in where Link fails, it's right in that fight against Ganon, and that the reason is that Navi didn't manage to rally and assist Link. It usually gets cut close even with faries. If you lacked Z-targeting, you'd die more likely than not. Once I grasped how important Navi is like that, I gained much more of a new respect. She might be a bit too eager to help, but without her helping at all, you're facing the BAD END. It's not a theory, the Hyrule Historia flat out says the timeline LTTP happens is due to Link dying to Ganondorf in the final battle, forcing Zelda, the Seven Sages and the Knights to do it the hard way.
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May 25, 2015 21:35
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I miss when the only canon in the thread was Duck Head-canon.
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May 25, 2015 21:50
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FeyerbrandX posted:I miss when the only canon in the thread was Duck Head-canon. I now know what it feels like to have started a meme.
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May 25, 2015 23:02
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Now that I finially get to watch the final boss fight. I just want to say that not only are you TERRIBLE at video games, but that ChaosArgate is also a TERRIBLE helper. Ed: Also, I would say shame on you for not even trying to beat Ganon the right way. But you're so bad I will allow the biggoron sword (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 26, 2015 01:49
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Speleothing posted:Now that I finially get to watch the final boss fight. I just want to say that not only are you TERRIBLE at video games, but that ChaosArgate is also a TERRIBLE helper. And the chat was giving TERRIBLE advice. It was a beautiful symphony of people that deserved each other.  And to be clear I am also terrible, but at least I was purposefully lying to her.
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May 26, 2015 01:50
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Jeez, the Fae vs. Ganondorf fight dragged on for about as long as expected. It wasn't too bad a watch, since it showed a ton of stuff I never tried or even knew existed. Ganondorf's just a bastard of a fight, I ended up with a strategy of standing on the center platform, using Z-targeting, the ladder, and strict timing to dodge his ground pounds, and using sound for tennis timing cues, and finding that way easier than dealing with the shifting platforms and deadlock tennis matches. There was no way Fae was going to use that tactic, and she didn't disappoint. Thanks to the chat for details on an attack I never saw before!
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May 26, 2015 04:40
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I was hoping. Really, really hoping that you would kill him with Deku Nuts. No, I really mean it. You can totally kill him with Deku Nuts for all of the fight until you get the Master Sword back. According to the description, and I remember some of this from playing this when I was...god, 7 or 8 years old, you can also use the Longshot, other magical arrows (hello Ice Arrows! Almost being useful!) alongside a bunch of other things that do, well, anything! I always thought it was a giveaway with Navi saying "I REALLY don't know what he's weak against!": they kind of wanted you to try everything and see which one stuck for you! Also surprised you didn't bash him with the Hammer, but you still won, and thats that.  It was a beautiful ride, though. Even with the accidental/intentional misdirection from the guests/chat. Thank you for the ride, Faerie Fortune. Now back to fishing...
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May 26, 2015 06:29
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Does anyone else fight Ganondorf from one of the four corner pillars? He never knocks those down so I just pick a corner and stick to it.
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