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Zero The Hero
Jan 7, 2009

Whitest Russian posted:

Is there a particular reason for it over the Phanteks case? I wanted to get the Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX but it did not include a place for an optical drive.

Idk but I'm liking this case a lot. Apparently it was meant to be pretty customizable, where you could choose different options for the side windows or things like that, but I'm not actually finding anywhere that will let me customize it....

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KwegiboHB
Feb 2, 2004

nonconformist art brut
Negative prompt: amenable, compliant, docile, law-abiding, lawful, legal, legitimate, obedient, orderly, submissive, tractable
Steps: 32, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 11, Seed: 520244594, Size: 512x512, Model hash: 99fd5c4b6f, Model: seekArtMEGA_mega20
I would appreciate a look over to make sure all the parts fit correctly as this is my first time building a PC.
I believe I'm happy with this build, though I'm all ears if anything stands out.

What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming, Streaming, Video Editing.
What's your budget? $1,500, the below price is fine but no more.
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.45 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.24 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card ($489.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Stryker M ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1528.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-30 19:19 EDT-0400

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

KwegiboHB posted:

I would appreciate a look over to make sure all the parts fit correctly as this is my first time building a PC.
I believe I'm happy with this build, though I'm all ears if anything stands out.

What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming, Streaming, Video Editing.
What's your budget? $1,500, the below price is fine but no more.
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.45 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar NAS 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($124.24 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card ($489.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Stryker M ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1528.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-30 19:19 EDT-0400

Here is a tweaked spec:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($127.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.45 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.57 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($308.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1333.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-30 20:18 EDT-0400

1) I changed out the RAM for something faster and cheaper.
2) I changed out the HDD for a cheaper one, you don't really want one with NAS firmware in a desktop anyway.
3) I switched the video card to a GTX 970, the 980 is only 10%-15% faster overall and not really worth the extra cash over the 970, the 980Ti is well worth the extra money but adding one would put you over your budget. I went with an EVGA one because EVGA has a program called "Step-Up" where if a new video card comes out within three months of your purchase you can exchange your old card for a new one for the difference in cost between them. New cards are expected to be announced at Computex at the end of May so if the GTX 1070 or whatever comes out in June or July you could pay a bit more and get a much faster card for only $50-$100 on top of what you pay now.
4) I added a much better case, it should be way easier to work in for a first time builder.

KwegiboHB
Feb 2, 2004

nonconformist art brut
Negative prompt: amenable, compliant, docile, law-abiding, lawful, legal, legitimate, obedient, orderly, submissive, tractable
Steps: 32, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 11, Seed: 520244594, Size: 512x512, Model hash: 99fd5c4b6f, Model: seekArtMEGA_mega20
Thank you very much, I hadn't heard of this Step Up program, this sounds perfect. Likewise for the ram and hard drive.
You already have plat and an av, is there some other way I could repay you? Been reading this thread for the last couple weeks and you do a lot to help people out.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
I'm wanting to make a small mini-itx Plex/file server, and to that end I've put together this preliminary build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($58.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Intel BXTS15A CPU Cooler ($27.97 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI H170I Pro AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung SM951 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($102.40 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $491.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-30 22:15 EDT-0400

Since there aren't going to be many concurrent plex transcodes/streams I felt i didn't need a super powerful processor, and I'm going to add hard drives when i need them (I have one 2gb that'd id move over. The reason I added that SSD is for the OS so I don't have to partition space on a 3.5" or take up one of the limited sata ports for a 2.5" ssd. I know there are only four ports on that board, but I figured if I ever got to the point where I needed a 5th hard drive I could upgrade the size of one already there or add in a pcie sata card. For the case, I'm considering either that bitfenix (which I love the look of) or a node 804 (which I also love and use for my main PC). I plan on just having linux so no windows needed. Does anyone have any advice on whether the pentium is "good enough", the SSD is unecessary, or anything like that?

e: Also, should I consider a 750ti or 950 for GPU assisted encoding or would that only work for windows and/or decoding?

Watermelon Daiquiri fucked around with this message at 03:57 on May 1, 2016

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming and Streaming.
What's your budget? $650
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1600x900

The PC I've been using has been alive for 6+ years and it's starting to show it's age in terms of playing games and doing anything in general. I'm hoping to scrounge up some money in a few months and figured 650$ could do for a good minimum budget for a gaming PC.

I'm looking to replace literally everything in this PC case I have and get a complete upgrade. I am hoping for a PC that can run games like Diablo 3 and Overwatch at 60+ FPS at max settings if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $649.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 03:34 EDT-0400

One thing I noticed while searching for parts was that the site claimed that the estimated wattage was 293W, is the 450W power supply a bit overkill?

E:Forgot to put in fans. these still work but will also be replaced if possible. Do I even need any fans??

Dizz fucked around with this message at 08:50 on May 1, 2016

Gamesguy
Sep 7, 2010

^^
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-D3HP ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.42 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($278.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $689.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 05:07 EDT-0400

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

KwegiboHB posted:

Thank you very much, I hadn't heard of this Step Up program, this sounds perfect. Likewise for the ram and hard drive.
You already have plat and an av, is there some other way I could repay you? Been reading this thread for the last couple weeks and you do a lot to help people out.

Ehhh, I already had someone send me a $50 Amazon gift code once, so don't worry about it, I'm just glad to help. :)

Dizz posted:

What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming and Streaming.
What's your budget? $650
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1600x900

The PC I've been using has been alive for 6+ years and it's starting to show it's age in terms of playing games and doing anything in general. I'm hoping to scrounge up some money in a few months and figured 650$ could do for a good minimum budget for a gaming PC.

I'm looking to replace literally everything in this PC case I have and get a complete upgrade. I am hoping for a PC that can run games like Diablo 3 and Overwatch at 60+ FPS at max settings if possible.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card ($214.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $649.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 03:34 EDT-0400

One thing I noticed while searching for parts was that the site claimed that the estimated wattage was 293W, is the 450W power supply a bit overkill?

E:Forgot to put in fans. these still work but will also be replaced if possible. Do I even need any fans??

Here is an updated build with a few other changes:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H170A PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($116.76 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $655.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 08:32 EDT-0400

1) We update the CPU/Mobo/RAM to newer models, these parts are roughly equivalent to the parts you had chosen in your original build.
2) I changed out the HDD for an SSD, the SSD will make a huge difference in the overall performance of your computer and in any games with loading times or stream loading will also make a huge difference.
3) I switched the video card to a cheaper model of 960, this also gives you access to EVGA's step-up program if you decide you want to upgrade to a new card in the next three months, new cards are expected to be announced at the end of this month at Computex so if something catches your eye you could upgrade this card for the difference in price between this one and the newer one.
4) I changed the PSU, the higher capacity of this one will help if you upgrade to a high powered video card in the future and gives you a little more headroom, this one also has a 5 year warranty so it should be quite reliable.

Siliziumleben
Dec 4, 2003

The scientists' findings were astounding! They discovered that the powers of the Metroid might be harnessed for the good of civilization!
What country are you in? :hitler: Germany :hitler:
What are you using the system for? Gaming, streaming, programming, image and video editing, browsing the web, basically anything you can do with a PC
What's your budget? 1000€-ish
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

My old gaming PC has treated me well since I bought it in 2010, but it's time to say goodbye. I'm targeting a new build that'll last me through the next 5 years of 1920x1080 gaming at non-maximum, non-minimum graphical settings. You can see from the parts I've picked that I'm planning to do some overclocking, but I don't plan to go crazy with it. PCPartPicker doesn't have half of the poo poo I'm looking to buy since I'm a filthy Yuropean, so here's a manually written list:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K, 4x 3.50GHz @ €226.10
Memory: 1 x Kingston HyperX Fury DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-2666, CL15-17-17 @ €72.00
Graphics: ASUS STRIX-R9380X-OC4G-GAMING, Radeon R9 380X, 4GB GDDR5 @ €239.95
Mainboard: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming @ €148.11
Display: iiyama G-Master GB2488HSU-B2 Red Eagle, 24" @ €248.25 - not sure about this one tbh, but I want a 24" with AMD FreeSync and there aren't many other options
CPU cooler: EKL Alpenföhn Brocken 2 @ €39.15
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 PCGH-Edition @ €119.90
Power supply: Cooler Master V-Series V550 550W @ €99.84
Total: €1193.30 holy smokes

Stuff that's not listed (like storage) I'll be reusing from my old build. I feel like I've done my research on this build, but I figured I might as well post it here before I make the purchase to see if there's anything obvious I missed.

Siliziumleben fucked around with this message at 15:17 on May 1, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Siliziumleben posted:

What country are you in? :hitler: Germany :hitler:
What are you using the system for? Gaming, streaming, programming, image and video editing, browsing the web, basically anything you can do with a PC
What's your budget? 1000€-ish
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

My old gaming PC has treated me well since I bought it in 2010, but it's time to say goodbye. I'm targeting a new build that'll last me through the next 5 years of 1920x1080 gaming at non-maximum, non-minimum graphical settings. You can see from the parts I've picked that I'm planning to do some overclocking, but I don't plan to go crazy with it. PCPartPicker doesn't have half of the poo poo I'm looking to buy since I'm a filthy Yuropean, so here's a manually written list:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K, 4x 3.50GHz @ €226.10
Memory: 1 x Kingston HyperX Fury DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-2666, CL15-17-17 @ €72.00
Graphics: ASUS STRIX-R9380X-OC4G-GAMING, Radeon R9 380X, 4GB GDDR5 @ €239.95
Mainboard: ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming @ €148.11
Display: iiyama G-Master GB2488HSU-B2 Red Eagle, 24" @ €248.25 - not sure about this one tbh, but I want a 24" with AMD FreeSync and there aren't many other options
CPU cooler: EKL Alpenföhn Brocken 2 @ €39.15
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 PCGH-Edition @ €119.90
Power supply: Cooler Master V-Series V550 550W @ €99.84
Total: €1193.30 holy smokes

Stuff that's not listed (like storage) I'll be reusing from my old build. I feel like I've done my research on this build, but I figured I might as well post it here before I make the purchase to see if there's anything obvious I missed.

Hmmm, you should go with some DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200, some games like GTAV or The Witcher 3 see significant frame rate gains from faster RAM, also you should be able to find said RAM for around the same price as the set in your current list. I would definitely go with a higher wattage PSU considering the overclocking, 550W with that video card and an OC on the CPU is not enough, 650W-750W should be safe. Other than that it looks good, though I can't comment on that CPU cooler since I have not seen it reviewed.

Siliziumleben
Dec 4, 2003

The scientists' findings were astounding! They discovered that the powers of the Metroid might be harnessed for the good of civilization!

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Hmmm, you should go with some DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200, some games like GTAV or The Witcher 3 see significant frame rate gains from faster RAM, also you should be able to find said RAM for around the same price as the set in your current list.
I figured I'd probably not benefit much from faster memory clock rates due to not having a high-end GPU in the system. I'll take your advice and go with the G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM kit 16GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-16-16-36 @ €83.04 instead, though.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I would definitely go with a higher wattage PSU considering the overclocking, 550W with that video card and an OC on the CPU is not enough, 650W-750W should be safe. Other than that it looks good, though I can't comment on that CPU cooler since I have not seen it reviewed.
Alright, I agree that 550W was probably aiming too low. I'll go with the 650W variant of the PSU I originally picked: Cooler Master V-Series V650 650W ATX 2.31 @ €109.62.

Thanks!

Siliziumleben fucked around with this message at 17:37 on May 1, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Siliziumleben posted:

I figured I'd probably not benefit much from faster memory clock rates due to not having a high-end GPU in the system. I'll take your advice and go with the G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM kit 16GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-16-16-36 @ €83.04 instead, though.

Alright, I agree that 550W was probably aiming too low. I'll go with the 650W variant of the PSU I originally picked: Cooler Master V-Series V650 650W ATX 2.31 @ €109.62.

Thanks!

Hmmm, I'm not sure how much you would benefit without a very powerful GPU, but at the same time you have to consider that the RAM will likely stay in your system for the life of the computer while the GPU is likely to be replaced a few times since GPUs keep getting faster and faster. Also any reason you're not getting this set? It is cheaper and timings don't make much difference with DDR4.

That PSU should be fine, the V-series are good PSUs.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming, web
What's your budget? ~$1000 but see below because I may not be wanting a completely new system
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.30GHz 43 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8Z68-V LE (LGA1155) 24 °C
Graphics
BenQ G2400W (1920x1200@59Hz)
FujiPLUS (1280x1024@60Hz)
1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (EVGA) 56 °C
Storage
931GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 26 °C
111GB OCZ-SOLID3 ATA Device (SSD)
Optical Drives
ATAPI iHAS324 B ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

Here's a system I built 4 years ago or so. Honestly it's still running stuff that I play decently, but I haven't really bought any newer generation titles either (the last one was Wolfenstein and it ran OK at medium high settings). I'm wondering if I'd be able to keep it relevant with a Graphics Card upgrade only. I run 2 monitors just to keep chat and support windows up while using another application on the main screen.

Basically, I had been in the habit of building a new computer every few years because the tech took much bigger leaps each time, so I'm looking around to see if I'm due for a full system or just a new part or two. Thanks.

Dramatika
Aug 1, 2002

THE BANK IS OPEN
Throw a GTX 970 in there and' you'll be good to go, or if you can wait a bit wait for the next gen NVIDIA cards to release as they are going to be much better bang for your buck. I don't know that a 2500 is worth upgrading from at this point unless you are really feeling a CPU bottleneck - you'd get better performance out of a new chip at the same speed, but I don't know that it's enough to justify a whole new build.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
Clock for clock a new i5 isn't that much better than what you have, if you do want to upgrade it make it a 6600K so you can overclock. Try an EVGA 970 and keep an eye out for possibly using their step up program to cheaply upgrade to a 1070. (EDIT: Or just wait for the 1070 as Radish suggests) Then you can build a system around a 6600K if you you end up needing more CPU performance.

HMS Boromir fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 1, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

The Ferret King posted:

What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Gaming, web
What's your budget? ~$1000 but see below because I may not be wanting a completely new system
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1920x1080

Operating System
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500 @ 3.30GHz 43 °C
Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8Z68-V LE (LGA1155) 24 °C
Graphics
BenQ G2400W (1920x1200@59Hz)
FujiPLUS (1280x1024@60Hz)
1023MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 (EVGA) 56 °C
Storage
931GB Seagate ST31000524AS ATA Device (SATA) 26 °C
111GB OCZ-SOLID3 ATA Device (SSD)
Optical Drives
ATAPI iHAS324 B ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

Here's a system I built 4 years ago or so. Honestly it's still running stuff that I play decently, but I haven't really bought any newer generation titles either (the last one was Wolfenstein and it ran OK at medium high settings). I'm wondering if I'd be able to keep it relevant with a Graphics Card upgrade only. I run 2 monitors just to keep chat and support windows up while using another application on the main screen.

Basically, I had been in the habit of building a new computer every few years because the tech took much bigger leaps each time, so I'm looking around to see if I'm due for a full system or just a new part or two. Thanks.

Well, the i5-2500 is finally getting a little slow these days, especially the non-k models since you can't overclock to help close the gap, also newer CPUs will deliver much better minimum frame rates which is really what matters. A GPU upgrade would no doubt do quite a bit and is certainly the better choice if you are on a tight budget. However I would recommend holding off on a new GPU if you can, new ones that should be much faster than anything we have right now are expected to be announced at Computex which will happen at the end of this month so now is a bad time to buy a GPU if you can help it. Holding off will also give you more time to ruminate on the choice between a new system and just a new GPU.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

Which would be better for gaming going forward,

ddr4 3200 cas 14
ddr4 4133 cas 19
ddr4 3600 cas 16

Is there some benchmarking of mhz vs latency for games where any of this matters (witcher 3, GTA V?)?

E: found this http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-performance-speed-latency .. So I suppose I should be calculating their true latency

E2: 3200 = 8.75ns, 3600 = 8.88 ns, 4133 = 9.19 ns. For reference, ddr3 2400 at 10 cal is 8.33 ns. So what does this mean in practical terms? I'm guessing it's "buy the cheapest one and upgrade sooner"

fozzy fosbourne fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 1, 2016

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

I'm wanting to make a small mini-itx Plex/file server, and to that end I've put together this preliminary build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($58.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Intel BXTS15A CPU Cooler ($27.97 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI H170I Pro AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung SM951 128GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($102.40 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $491.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-30 22:15 EDT-0400

Since there aren't going to be many concurrent plex transcodes/streams I felt i didn't need a super powerful processor, and I'm going to add hard drives when i need them (I have one 2gb that'd id move over. The reason I added that SSD is for the OS so I don't have to partition space on a 3.5" or take up one of the limited sata ports for a 2.5" ssd. I know there are only four ports on that board, but I figured if I ever got to the point where I needed a 5th hard drive I could upgrade the size of one already there or add in a pcie sata card. For the case, I'm considering either that bitfenix (which I love the look of) or a node 804 (which I also love and use for my main PC). I plan on just having linux so no windows needed. Does anyone have any advice on whether the pentium is "good enough", the SSD is unecessary, or anything like that?

e: Also, should I consider a 750ti or 950 for GPU assisted encoding or would that only work for windows and/or decoding?

Anything?

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
Thanks for the info. I'll wait for the new graphics cards and reassess things then.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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fozzy fosbourne posted:

Which would be better for gaming going forward,

ddr4 3200 cas 14
ddr4 4133 cas 19
ddr4 3600 cas 16

Is there some benchmarking of mhz vs latency for games where any of this matters (witcher 3, GTA V?)?

E: found this http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-performance-speed-latency .. So I suppose I should be calculating their true latency

E2: 3200 = 8.75ns, 3600 = 8.88 ns, 4133 = 9.19 ns. For reference, ddr3 2400 at 10 cal is 8.33 ns. So what does this mean in practical terms? I'm guessing it's "buy the cheapest one and upgrade sooner"

Latency does not matter as much as it used to with DDR3 where the differences were more stark, also bandwidth is becoming more of an issue. In testing I have seen you don't see much gain at all beyond DDR4-3200.

Siliziumleben
Dec 4, 2003

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Hmmm, I'm not sure how much you would benefit without a very powerful GPU, but at the same time you have to consider that the RAM will likely stay in your system for the life of the computer while the GPU is likely to be replaced a few times since GPUs keep getting faster and faster. Also any reason you're not getting this set? It is cheaper and timings don't make much difference with DDR4.
The performance difference may be marginal, but so's the price difference. :shrug:

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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Siliziumleben posted:

The performance difference may be marginal, but so's the price difference. :shrug:

It's showing as a €10 difference to me and the ones I linked are the same speed, both are DDR4-3200/CL16 so I'm not sure why you would spend the extra money but it's your money not mine, feel free.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Office stuff (so many spreadsheets), light gaming that is currently handled fine by a GeForce 8800 GTS (SimCity 4, some N64 emulation)
What's your budget? $750
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1600x1200 (will be upgraded at a later date to something ultrawide-ish)

I wonder if I could get away with on-board graphics and an i3... I have the cash, so threw in an i5 and a lower-end video card anyway. Any tweaks?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($110.00 @ B&H)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Intel 850 EVO 500GB SSD (owned)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($129.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply ($81.24 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $736.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 16:31 EDT-0400

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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effika posted:

What country are you in? USA
What are you using the system for? Office stuff (so many spreadsheets), light gaming that is currently handled fine by a GeForce 8800 GTS (SimCity 4, some N64 emulation)
What's your budget? $750
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 1600x1200 (will be upgraded at a later date to something ultrawide-ish)

I wonder if I could get away with on-board graphics and an i3... I have the cash, so threw in an i5 and a lower-end video card anyway. Any tweaks?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($110.00 @ B&H)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Intel 850 EVO 500GB SSD (owned)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($129.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified ATX Power Supply ($81.24 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $736.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 16:31 EDT-0400

You can get away without the video card for what you are using it for, the Intel 530 onboard GPU is a bit faster than your 8800 GTS, put the money towards your monitor fund.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

You can get away without the video card for what you are using it for, the Intel 530 onboard GPU is a bit faster than your 8800 GTS, put the money towards your monitor fund.

Sweet! Thanks for the feedback.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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So I just realized that I'm running on Windows 7 Enterprise. Which is not included in the free windows 10 upgrade program. Have there been any good discounts on Win 10? It doesn't seem like buying a license for 7 or 8 and then using the free upgrade is any cheaper...

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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DeadFatDuckFat posted:

So I just realized that I'm running on Windows 7 Enterprise. Which is not included in the free windows 10 upgrade program. Have there been any good discounts on Win 10? It doesn't seem like buying a license for 7 or 8 and then using the free upgrade is any cheaper...

You could get a license from Kinguin but YMMV, some people have had their license invalidate later on though they do have a 30 day money back thing if the key turns out to be invalid.

Mikojan
May 12, 2010

Hi guys, could someone comment on the build below? The GPU remains empty as I'm waiting for the Nvidia 1080GTX.
Thanks!

What country are you in? Belgium
What are you using the system for? High end gaming and VR
What's your budget? 2000 €
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 2560x1440

PSU be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 750W, 750 Watt, 6x PCIe € 199,90 link
SSD Samsung 850 EVO, 1 TB SSD MZ-75E1T0B/EU, 3D V-NAND, TLC, TRIM, AES € 299,- link
RAM 2x8GB GeIL D416GB 3200-15 Dragon Ram K2 GEI € 83,90 link
CPU Intel® Core i7-6700K, 4,0 GHz (4,2 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor FC-LGA4, "Skylake" € 369,- link
CPU cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1 € 64,90 link
case Fractal Design Define R5 Black € 119,90 link
Motherboard ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, socket 1151, RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX € 164,90 link

Total:
€ 1.309,49

Mikojan fucked around with this message at 13:48 on May 2, 2016

yum
Oct 27, 2005

Only good things will come
to someone like
you.
Hi everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my 2-3 year old PC. I used the pcpartpicker website to to list the stuff I already have/I think I need to replace.


What country are you in? Canada
What are you using the system for? Gaming and web
What's your budget? Max is $1500 CAD but I'm not really looking to spend all that. More realistically $800-1000 CAD

If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? 1920x1080. Looking for 60 fps as well, I got dual monitors.


Here's my current PC. I have some random SSD/Harddrive combo and 32gb ddr3 ram as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($564.60 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.95 @ B&H)
Total: $653.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-02 08:41 EDT-0400

I think they don't sell my motherboard anymore. The full code was P67 Etreme4 P1.60-15B. It's pretty old.
Looking for a new case as well. I'm currently using some old beater black coolermaster that I don't know the model of but the side panel is broken and I'm not a fan of its appearance anymore either.

Also I think I installed my CPU cooler wrong cause it gets loud as heck sometimes

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax

yum posted:

Hi everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my 2-3 year old PC. I used the pcpartpicker website to to list the stuff I already have/I think I need to replace.

You don't need a new PC by any stretch. A GTX 970 will get you right up to speed. You can pick up an EVGA one since they have a cool "step-up" program where you can send it back and pay the difference within 90 days to upgrade to a better one and the 1070 should be out in time. Alternatively you can just wait for the 1070, since we're on the cusp of the new generation it's an awkward time to buy a GPU.

EDIT: I had some stuff about the case and cooler too but Radish has better, more detailed advice for you below.

HMS Boromir fucked around with this message at 15:11 on May 2, 2016

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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Mikojan posted:

Hi guys, could someone comment on the build below? The GPU remains empty as I'm waiting for the Nvidia 1080GTX.
Thanks!

What country are you in? Belgium
What are you using the system for? High end gaming and VR
What's your budget? 2000 €
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? 2560x1440

PSU be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 750W, 750 Watt, 6x PCIe € 199,90 link
SSD Samsung 850 EVO, 1 TB SSD MZ-75E1T0B/EU, 3D V-NAND, TLC, TRIM, AES € 299,- link
RAM 2x8GB GeIL D416GB 3200-15 Dragon Ram K2 GEI € 83,90 link
CPU Intel® Core i7-6700K, 4,0 GHz (4,2 GHz Turbo Boost) socket 1151 processor FC-LGA4, "Skylake" € 369,- link
CPU cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Advanced C1 € 64,90 link
case Fractal Design Define R5 Black € 119,90 link
Motherboard ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, socket 1151, RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX € 164,90 link

Total:
€ 1.309,49

That looks fine to me.

yum posted:

Hi everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my 2-3 year old PC. I used the pcpartpicker website to to list the stuff I already have/I think I need to replace.


What country are you in? Canada
What are you using the system for? Gaming and web
What's your budget? Max is $1500 CAD but I'm not really looking to spend all that. More realistically $800-1000 CAD

If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? 1920x1080. Looking for 60 fps as well, I got dual monitors.


Here's my current PC. I have some random SSD/Harddrive combo and 32gb ddr3 ram as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($564.60 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.33 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card
Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.95 @ B&H)
Total: $653.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-02 08:41 EDT-0400

I think they don't sell my motherboard anymore. The full code was P67 Etreme4 P1.60-15B. It's pretty old.
Looking for a new case as well. I'm currently using some old beater black coolermaster that I don't know the model of but the side panel is broken and I'm not a fan of its appearance anymore either.

Also I think I installed my CPU cooler wrong cause it gets loud as heck sometimes

There isn't much reason to replace your CPU/Mobo/RAM, the i7-3770k holds up really well, you would only gain ~%15 better CPU performance from upgrading to an i7-6700k and it would be very expensive. Instead I recommend a new case, CPU cooler, power supply and video card:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $0.00)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($407.25 @ DirectCanada)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.60 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.68 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $762.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-02 09:30 EDT-0400

1) I chose the Corsair H100i v2 CPU cooler because it is easy to install and will keep your CPU very cool and do so quietly.

2) For the PSU I went with this one because it's one of the best 80+ Gold PSUs you can get and is pretty cheap, it will run much more quietly and is extremely reliable with a 7 year warranty.

3) I chose the NZXT H440 for a case because it's an extremely well made, well engineered case. It does not have slots for a 5 1/4" CD/DVD player so if you need to use one of those I recommend an external USB based one, most people don't use those drives any more so it should not be a big deal. The case is sound dampened so you should not need to worry about noise and it comes with four good quality case fans so there will be plenty of air flow. It's also very cheap right now, $118 is only ~$10 more than you would expect to pay in USD.

4) For the video card I chose an EVGA GTX 970, the GTX 970 should be able to handle pretty much anything you throw at it at 1080p and deliver good frame rates. However if you can hold off on the video card upgrade for a month I would recommend doing so, new cards are expected to be announced at Computex at the end of this month and these new cards are expected to be very significantly faster than anything we have right now, especially in DX12/Vulkan which is what most games are going to be moving to in the next few years. I chose an EVGA branded card because EVGA has something called the "Step-Up" program where if a new video card is released within 3-months of your purchase you can upgrade to that new card for the difference in price between the old and new card. However you have to keep in mind that while it is very likely that Nvidia/AMD will announce the new cards in a month the release date is still very much up in the air, they might come out within weeks of the announcement or they might come out in September or October in which case you would be ineligible for Step-Up and since EVGA does not make AMD cards if AMD's stuff ends up being really good you will only have the option of Nvidia's stuff. You could still do all the other upgrades now and get the work of rebuilding the computer out of the way while you wait on news on the new video cards.

Anyway, I hope that helps, feel free to ask any other questions you like, also this is a fully upgraded build I put together to give you an idea of the costs involved in a full upgrade:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($442.89 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($205.00 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($407.25 @ DirectCanada)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.60 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.68 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1559.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-02 09:58 EDT-0400

yum
Oct 27, 2005

Only good things will come
to someone like
you.


Thanks for the advice! I figured some parts are still good but wasn't sure what needed replacement


Now to pay out the rear end cause Canadian

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Feb 6, 2004

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