Iretep posted:

If I remember right Tohsaka wasn't really glad at all gil was an archer. As far as the archer class it's a pretty normal class. It's one of the 4 knight classes so they are usually good at the combat but they need to stay at range. I think one of the extra material for zero said that the 4 knight classes had some rock scisor paper logic to them but in reality it seems it never works because all the heroes pull out some bullshit.

BlitzBlast posted:

Meanwhile Sakura loses both of the pillars of her life and spends the rest of her (arguably brief) life suffering.

You're such a great sister Rin.

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm pretty sure it's stated somewhere that any one can be summoned as Berserker, getting a tremendous stat boost but losing their sanity in the process.

jellycat posted:

I finished Fate/Stay Night a few days ago. Every time I think about the Heaven's Feel normal ending enough, I start tearing up again because I'm a crybaby. I'm glad the true ending is mostly pretty happy.

I dipped my toe into Hollow Ataraxia, but I think I'm going to watch Fate/Zero first, because I'd rather end the main Fate stuff on a more pleasant note. I also have Carnival Phantasm prepared for this reason.

Basically I am going to tear through most of the Fate franchise in one month, I guess.

Aumanor posted:

There's also "Lance of sure hit, shield of no loss", as far as flashy fights go. But what I'm looking forward to the most is "End of a hero".

Cake Attack posted:

i don't remember what either of these are, lol, but they sound epic

Cake Attack posted:

lancer makes diarmud look like such a chump, lol

Twiddy posted:

Seriously though Lancer and Fake Assassin are great characters that just get the shortest end of the stick no matter what route they're in.

Aumanor posted:

So. It looks like the last episode of this cour will indeed end with that roof scene.

Soylentbits posted:

Which scene was that again? It's been a while.

Ytlaya posted:

Holy poo poo, I thought people were exaggerating about the 400 dollar blu-rays. What in the gently caress is wrong with the people who actually buy those and aren't millionaires? Do they think that a spirit version of Saber will visit them in their sleep and shake their hand if they spend enough money on F/SN products?

Stevefin posted:

and yes. I hope they do change the wedding dress part, or least make it some one more saner than 'Caster went costume rapey'

legoman727 posted:

When is S2 of UBW starting anyways? March?

YggdrasilTM posted:

Episode 13 should end with the graveyard scene.
Episode 14 should be on Caster past and evocation.
Episode 15 should have the Berseker/Gil battle and the Ilya flashback

Nate RFB posted:

I don't think we're actually going to get the confrontation in the castle next episode, so probably two for that with the reveal at the end of the second. Third ep for the fight itself, four the prep to fight Gil, maybe two more after that for the Assassin and Gil fights? And one more for the ending.

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

cool detail giving her Gae Bolg she's the original owner

Endorph posted:

i went to anime news network's forums for some reason and in the ubw thread

lol

Compendium posted:

Really?? I would think that scene wouldn't titillate anyone, people would want Shinji to get punched. Which happened.

Most crit towards the Fate franchise as a whole, I mostly agree with because they aren't baseless and the fandom in general sucks, but sometimes there's just plain misinterpretation.

Finally, Shinji's assault on Rin was gross and unnecessary. It wasn't as bad as it could have been (no blushing or squirming), but the shots of him feeling up her legs were clearly meant to titillate the audience. I'd prefer it if my entertainment didn't expect me to derive pleasure from a woman being nonconsensually felt up, thanks. Rin is also strangely limp throughout it. She doesn't struggle or spit in his face, like you'd expect she might. Instead, she's as limp as a log. Normally, she's a very assertive person. I used to think that Shinji was funny, but that was back when he didn't seem like a threat. Please no more rape imagery, UBW.

I hope that this is the worst episode.

Ibram Gaunt posted:

It's bad

Stall_19 posted:

Hmmm? They were extremely positive about Fate/Zero. It's the rest of the franchise that they don't like.

Silver2195 posted:

I think she feels it was out of character for Rin not to be more defiant there. I get the impression that it's because Rin doesn't even respect/fear Shinji enough to defy him properly; contrast with the way she lets her sharp tongue loose when Kirei shows up.

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Said person actually posts on SA, and has a major cult of personality going in the Critic thread. Because of course.

Clarste posted:

Wait, I'm confused, is the problem with ANN the reviewers, or the forums? Because the ANN forums hate the reviewers too.

Well, guess it could also be both.

Rodyle posted:

E: well that answers that, finally, the cross site drama made real, thanks a heap Ghost

Jay O posted:

Thanks for the message. Glad you enjoyed the podcast. (Okay, glad you listened to the podcast, and I hope you enjoyed it!)

I may be a goon, but I know better than to post in ADTRW. Nobody cares about ADTRW. I don't think the people who post in ADTRW like ADTRW.

Not that the ANN forums are better or anything, but it's partially my job to monitor and respond to stuff in those. I don't have a lot of choice in the matter, I have to help keep the forums civil on one hand, and on the other hand, it's my home base whether I like it or not (and I usually do, occasional flamewars aside.) It's all direct response on this site to content hosted on this site, and it's the site I work for. So it's different, I guess.

Frankly, dealing with Type-Moon a-holes is exhausting enough between the podcast thread and the ongoing Fate/stay Night episode review thread where people wax rhapsodically about the brilliance of Nasu's rape imagery and Nasu's D&D rulebook and Nasu's god-awful prose in between puffs on their bubble pipe, so I can't imagine what it's like in ADTRW, and I don't have any reason to check or care.

Anyway, you have my permission to post this in that thread if you want! Consider this my response. But no, I don't feel the need to hop into that debate. Fans can get their panties in a wad about my misconceptions all they want. I'm sure I've gotten lots of things wrong about the NASUVERSE, I just don't care. It's not some alternate universe. It's a work of fiction written by a man, and frankly, it does seem pretty incompatible with the other work of fiction written by a different man that we were discussing on the podcast. So much so that Nasu has directly stated that the two works have irreconcilably different Gilgameshes! So yeah.

The franchise is not important to me, for better and worse to its fandom (who by that metric shouldn't care what I have to say at all, but for some reason really seem to, because somebody saying a wrong thing about the Nasuverse is a world-ending calamity.) Anyway. I literally only like Fate/Zero, I am a filthy secondary, and that's all hunky-dory by me. But thanks for the heads-up.

Jay O posted:

Follow-up to the previous message: decided to read the thread you were talking about just to see what the tenor of discussion actually was, and it's totally okay in there, I'm not sure what you meant by trouble at the old mill so to speak. Some effortposts saying ANN's pretty okay but the forums suck, some standard SA "lol whatev" shitposting, and an all-around pretty benign, normal-rear end thread. So I don't really think there's anything to respond to!

If there's any confusion about it or anyone cares, I obviously love Fate/Zero, that whole podcast is a giant sloppy love letter to Fate/Zero, but I don't really care about anything else in the Nasuverse, and generally speaking, its fandom is horrible, which makes liking Fate/Zero and trying to discuss it a big pain in the rear end. But that thread seems totally fine.

Still not gonna post in ADTRW, but you can post this as an addendum to the other message I sent you. S'all I have to say about that, womp womp~

Cake Attack posted:

thanks, i was at the edge of my seat

Cake Attack posted:

lol at the new thread title

Stall_19 posted:

I expect the FSN UBW episode review thread at ANN will be interesting to watch these next few days.

Endorph posted:

holy poo poo the ann review for the latest ubw ep is the worst thing ive ever seen

Compendium posted:

I actually read earlier ANN reviews for the first UBW season because I appreciated the differing view point and if anything I was pleasantly surprised at how fair it was in pointing out the good and bad points of UBW that, you know, actually had to do with what we're watching.

With the recent review, I just feel tired. Maybe it's the dumb hardcore TM fans plus a number of other things, but I don't feel like anyone there is having fun with UBW.

Cake Attack posted:

I'm gonna read all those new posts in the UBW thread

NOT

Beef Chief posted:

unfortunately that meme is p out of date, but last i was on /a/ in like 2011, we were still using it so eh

Cake Attack posted:

didn't they already change it in realta nua?

Ytlaya posted:

I think it's strange because Gilgamesh should have had Avalon in his Gate of Babylon and known about it as a result; I mean it's the scabbard for Excalibur, and I'm pretty sure Excalibur (and literally every other noble phantasm ever) was in his treasury. It would be one thing if Gilgamesh just had "a whole lot of Noble Phatasms", but he's supposed to have literally every single one with Ea being objectively the best one of all.

Compendium posted:

That is a good and healthy life choice.

Sylphid posted:

And speaking of reviews, it might have been linked here or in the UBW thread, but where was that one website where the author was a total newcomer to the series and ended up liking the show a lot? I'd be interested in reading his impressions of the last few episodes, or the series as a whole now that it's finished.

Sylphid posted:

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have anything concrete about how they want to do HF yet. Probably will be a while before we'll hear more news about it. One movie would probably be too little, two movies too much.

Nyaa posted:

The original point of the conversation is whether the deen anime is worth watching and some people try to defend it with needle in the hay arguments either for watching or it deserve merit for the series.

As Judge Nyaa, I declare the following judgement:

Don't watch Deen/Stay Night, but it deserve credit for like two small things.

Webcormac McCarthy posted:

Caught my eye in Rome, worth seeing it in the cinema even if I don’t know moonspeak or Italian?



edit: Italian dub only actually!