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Sakura is my favourite by default because she doesn't lecture you endlessly about pointless bullshit.
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I thought the idea is that you already saw the outcome in UBW.
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Oct 13, 2014 22:41
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Wasn't Kotomine powered up by the grail during HF or something? He may have just been weaker in Fate.
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Oct 14, 2014 03:41
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I liked Shinji for the first two routes (or at least I appreciated him as a good unlikable character). He was such an unmitigated failure that his actions made sense as either him lashing out or trying to prove that he was useful. I was still hoping Shirou would accept his team-up on the last route because I thought that could be interesting. That doesn't really work in light of his HF actions, though, it was sortof disappointing to realize he was just bad. Maybe it would have worked better if Shirou was confronted with it early on as a challenge to his worldview that everyone can be saved.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:23
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Well obviously it would end up with them fighting when Shirou realizes, but at the time Shinji offers the team-up they're friends (for some reason) so it wouldn't be too strange.
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Oct 14, 2014 21:11
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Well we know it's difficult but not impossible for a servant to go against a command seal. It depends on the magical power of the user and the independence of the servant (Gilgamesh seems to be basically immune). So maybe Archer (with his independent action skill) can easily ignore them while Caster can't. And Saber can ignore Shirou's if she really wants to because Shirou isn't that magical.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:42
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I think Saber knew Kotomine was killed? At least, I remember her being really shocked in Fate when he shows up (I'm not sure how Shirou learnt that he was meant to have died otherwise). If so it's a sortof weak plotline because it relies on neither Rin nor Shirou ever mentioning his name to her.
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Oct 19, 2014 03:09
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Kiritsugu probably just cut Saber off as soon as her role was fulfilled because he hated her.
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Oct 20, 2014 03:57
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BlitzBlast posted:Meanwhile Sakura loses both of the pillars of her life and spends the rest of her (arguably brief) life suffering. ...  Man even the HF bad end is much better for Sakura (and perhaps the world in general) than the UBW and Fate ones.
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Oct 20, 2014 14:21
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HF implied he was planning to wait until the next war to get involved, so presumably he'd just wait around and keep training Sakura until then? I don't think anything in Fate or UBW would stop another war from happening.
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Oct 20, 2014 14:30
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That sounds cool, I kindof hope it gets animated as a UBW epilogue or something.
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Oct 20, 2014 15:00
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I have heard a legend that King Arthur is merely asleep and will awaken when England needs him. That could have served as the basis for the non-aging or the fact that Saber is still alive.
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Oct 24, 2014 13:50
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Plus you see Gilgamesh in an early scene with Sakura, so it's not like they could hide his presence completely from people who've seen Fate/Zero. Although I think that scene might have been optional or something.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:17
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That seems like another reason to skip Fate - its twists are largely things that an F/Z viewer would already know (eighth servant, Kiritsugu wasn't as great as Shirou thought he was, Kotomine is evil, Saber is Arturia, Saber served under Kiritsugu previously, Illya will die as part of the grail summoning etc).
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Oct 27, 2014 06:25
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Actually that reminds me of a question I've had for a while: why does Gilgamesh not care about Saber at all in UBW? He was really obsessed with her in Fate.
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Oct 27, 2014 06:50
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Soylentbits posted:My Celtic literature teacher pronounced it that way too and he assuredly did not know about fate/ stay.
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Oct 29, 2014 22:54
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Cake Attack posted:sakura isn't a matou, and he means the new generation of matous aren't mages anymore. 
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Nov 15, 2014 23:34
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Pierson posted:The Tsubame Gaeshi ruled hard and perfectly conveyed the 'what the gently caress was that'-feeling you think it'd make. The pre-death image Saber saw/felt makes me think of Gae Bolg more though since that's a causality-breaking weapon and the TG just bends physics/time.
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Nov 23, 2014 10:54
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Compendium posted:"Fate/Zero is darker and edgier therefore superior because Kiritsugu is a goddamn adult who would cap all these motherfuckers in the head," is what I usually glean from people who think F/Z is the best. The actual problem I had when I read FSN is that it had loads of long pointless boring scenes, and when I watched FZ I was glad to see most of the cool things I liked about FSN without as many of those scenes.
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Nov 24, 2014 19:50
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What a Master and Servant choose to do behind closed doors is none of your business.
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Nov 26, 2014 21:16
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They'll probably switch to a sad OP for the second half of the UBW anime like they did with FZ.
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Nov 28, 2014 20:44
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I like how Rider has like 6 Noble Phantasms and none of them prevent her from dying like a chump three times
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Nov 30, 2014 20:25
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Her narrative roles are mainly to have good fights and provide another perspective on Sakura and I think she does both of those things fine 
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Dec 1, 2014 02:21
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Is the church in TM really bad? Maybe they're over-aggressive, but vampire killing seems important and Kotomine isn't acting in their interests. Or is there a twist where they're behind everything in Tsukihime, I never finished it
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Dec 6, 2014 14:33
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Also if christianity's primary purpose were to slay vampires I can imagine that it would develop differently.
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Dec 6, 2014 15:04
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People are mostly complaining that the anime so far has been boring, Zero is just the easiest comparison to make because it's set in the same universe.
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Dec 7, 2014 19:42
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I guess the fact she's an elf would be surprising to a new viewer??
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Dec 8, 2014 06:26
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Saber likely didn't expect any real resistance from a human, so her first attack was probably intended to either quickly kill Kuzuki or force him to surrender - that could make it easier to counter than her regular attacks. After that point Kuzuki injures her while she's still off-balance, so she never really has a chance to properly engage him in combat in the way Shirou did.
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Dec 14, 2014 06:02
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Effectronica posted:So in other words, the three houses are guaranteed a position so long as they have someone who fits the criteria, but anyone who fits those criteria can join the war by summoning a Servant.
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Dec 17, 2014 15:42
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I think the joke is that 90% of FSN readers would've made that guess at some point. I certainly did. Incidentally I also guessed Archer was Jesus at some point, which made his monologues about hurting himself while projecting and saving people really funny
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Dec 28, 2014 02:04
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It was in the Deen adaptation so it'll probably be here too.
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Dec 28, 2014 04:09
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I liked Saber's epilogue in Fate (true). Otherwise yeah a lot if the route was boring and it didn't make up for it with a great second half like the other routes did.
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Dec 30, 2014 08:23
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It's not really about Fate but yeah it exists.
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Jan 12, 2015 19:33
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Yeah you can only pass the family magic to one child (remember Tohsaka magic works through heirlooms so you can't divide it up without weakening it) and I guess having a second highly jealous child could screw things up. Heck, imagine Shinji only he has enough latent magical ability to be a real threat.
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Apr 3, 2015 02:50
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I wonder what would have happened if Kariya had just been a bit more specific
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Apr 3, 2015 04:21
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Kiritsugu is bad and all but at the same time I don't think his mindset is particularly absurd or even uncommon. Plenty of people really do not give a poo poo about the means as long as the bad guy gets got. Jack Bauer
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Apr 5, 2015 15:16
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Seems like a bad idea to me, I mean there were meltdowns every time a character made an off-colour joke in Dangan Ronpa. Also it's in English so you can just get the game if you want to read it.
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Apr 22, 2015 13:34
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Also Kiritsugu's path led to everyone he ever cared about dying
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May 5, 2015 00:01
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UBW good is really dumb though.
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May 5, 2015 20:52
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Nate RFB posted:HF True feels earned, Shirou has to go to hell and back to get there and even then Illya still has to sacrifice herself in one of the most memorable scenes in the whole story. Whereas UBW Good comes out of nowhere and isn't really thematically rewarding.
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