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mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

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1st Edition ADandD posted:

Almost all MS stuff I have seen is people have cobbled together these systems that won't run *without* a custom efi control solution. The ROI on using MS as opposed to hacking whatever your powertrain was originally supposed to use, at least until you know you have a running vehicle, always seems bad to me. There's, I think, about a half dozen guys on the major z31 board with MS builds and none of them has a driveable car, as compared to Nistune where when people have problems it's because they have non-Nistune-related mechanical/electrical issues. But I'm also not very ambitious...

I think this says more about z31 owners than anything else.

Take a look at older Z cars, and you'll find MS is the ecu of choice for most builds that have a reasonable budgets.

Like anything else, you get out of it what you put in it. Of course your wiring is going to look like poo poo if "you just want to get it running", especially compared to the amount of R&D the factory put in.

Too bad you're so far away, I've got 2 MS cars, and in town we've got about 10 running and driving with a variety of makes and models (4 Zs!).


Fully wired up MS2-E with wasted spark.
This car will lay 50ft of rubber down from a 25mph roll, in a 2.3l tractor engine that flows about as good as a Nissan L series.

Butt tuning with no wideband? When you want to leave the little leagues, let me know and I can help point you in the tight direction.

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