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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

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Ardennes posted:

but the issue is larger than tax breaks,

On this issue of tax breaks and housing.....

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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

This has literally been in effect across all of California since the 70s and has done fuckall to curb rents in San Francisco.

All it results in is the current situation where property owners simply turn their dwellings into rentals rather than selling, because why not. San Francisco now has roughly a 35% home ownership rate.

Hey, it's 5 points higher than my city :v:

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

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Guy DeBorgore posted:

-rent control favours the people who already live here over newcomers, which is selfish at best and xenophobic at worst

There is a larger argument to be made though people have lived anywhere for a long time, but particularly in cities, tend to care about the general wellbeing of their neighborhoods more and it's a good thing to support to help improve cities as a whole.

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Aug 10, 2009

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Best Friends posted:

Do you have any evidence for that?

No but it's not exactly a new or radical position. It was a main point in The Death and Life of Great American Cities when arguments came up for public subsidies of housing and it's a mainstay of new urbanism thought. People who have lived in an area for a long time are going to have an emotional connection to said place, they're probably going to care more about the place assuming a desire to continue to keep living there over someone who has just moved there and only plans to be there for a year or 2 and there's going to be a better chance of longtime residents having developed personal connections with each other. Yeah it's not an absolute, there are plenty of people who have lived in a place for 15 years and don't really care about it and plenty of newcomers who are avid about the state of their community, but I think it's a pretty fair generalization.

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