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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
People say work builds character, but what do we mean by character? Oftentimes, character is the ability to work without complaint. So, it is a meaningless tautology. Work can be meaningful, even liberating. But that type of work is relatively rare and more of a sort of compensated luxury.

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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
A good example would be factory work. It was originally a kill-you-to-death place where poors (especially women and children) worked. Then all of a sudden something happened and manufacturing work became the engine that created the middle class in America and Europe. If only we could study what happened there and recreate it in the service industry.

My guess is that it was a combination of deregulation and government subsidy.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Obviously, changes would have to be made to the manufacturing process to make it more rewarding. It is a change in focus, that's all. Ditto with things like janitorial duties and such.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

PT6A posted:

I'm not sure about this. Until we invent self-cleaning toilets and the like, I don't think scrubbing toilets will ever be fulfilling beyond giving the scrubber money (or, in the case of your own toilet, a clean toilet to use). You can certainly increase the pay level to a point where it's an attractive job to someone with a mincome, but that doesn't mean it can be made "fulfilling."

So close. The way you make janitorial duties fulfilling is paying top dollar for them. Or incorporating them into a larger framework, like a rotating duty at a co-op (or your house) where no one really likes it but we all do it. Since nobody has to be a janitor, nobody would be one for peanuts.

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