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Smoking Crow posted:And we're off! Have fun everyone. Ok, so first sentence. Like Ulysses, Dublin (and Ireland) becomes the backdrop for and embodiment of the (cultural) history of man. The river, and the flow of history, and the story of man, and the text of Finnegans Wake all begin with Adam and Eve, meander with semi-scrutable but indefinable intent and taken at a certain view all loop around in an ongoing, unfinished, unfinishable...something.
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mdemone posted:gently caress me I only just realized it's a plural and not a possessive. A declarative statement and not a modified noun. On the topic of the title (and this reiterative interpretation, this endless cycling of readings and this constant awareness of ourselves doing this is, in some ways, Joyce's greatest achievement here: it demands a new kind of reading, a new kind understanding, a new kind of epistemology and hermeneutics): it's made me consider the many valences of "wake": funeral party (as the assumed but erroneous possessive might imply), awakening, one's historical imprint or trail (e.g. as a boat leaves in water). And I take earwicker's point about reversing the primacy of Adam and its important connotations. What I was trying to say is that I think the opening sentence proclaims a strategy or process for reading; an endless, constantly backtracking, always reinterpreting, forever deferring one. It's interesting that one of the footnotes for commodius vicus mentioned Giovanni Vico; he apparently said something to the effect that his Scienza Nuova was the only book readers would ever need (I suspect I'm butchering the meaning here, but my reference book is far away and it would be unco fashious to move across the room to check). I get the feeling that finnegans wake could fill that role: be endless read yet different every time
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Earwicker posted:(its Giambattista by the way) Yikes, no idea where I pulled Giovanni from.
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DisDisDis posted:I've never read anything by Joyce before. Should I man the gently caress up and Finnegans Wake? Definitely.
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