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I just hope he gets clean, seems like a good dude, had I made different choices in my life he's exactly who I would be. Good luck Valuum, wherever you are!
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syscall girl posted:goons doxx people for the prettiest reasons. 
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syscall girl posted:Not to mention he was using his real name and goons doxx people for the prettiest reasons. If a goon dobbed him in then jfc kill yourself or get a life you fuckhead. E: sending an addict back to American jail, that'll help him.
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Much more likely it was the probation officer he had to see all the time and take drug tests for, while doing drugs. Just a hunch, since that's the entire purpose of probation.
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Anne Whateley posted:Much more likely it was the probation officer he had to see all the time and take drug tests for, while doing drugs. Just a hunch, since that's the entire purpose of probation. Drugs are soul crushing. Hope he's okay. 
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Wasn't he so guilt ridden about relapsing with his brand new drug addict girlfriend that he decided to tell his probation officer because he thought he/she would be "cool"? I'm pretty sure he's locked up.
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I read near the beginning of this thread the comments about cellphones - why don't/can't prisons install jammers to disable them?
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Three-Phase posted:I read near the beginning of this thread the comments about cellphones - why don't/can't prisons install jammers to disable them? Probably because anything to gently caress up the signal of prisoners' contraband phones will also gently caress up the guards' phones.
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Three-Phase posted:I read near the beginning of this thread the comments about cellphones - why don't/can't prisons install jammers to disable them?
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Most modern radios work using phone bands. Jam phones and you also jam radios.
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Also, depending on where things are and the size of your prison, it's not exactly that easy. You look at the size of some of these bigger prisons, you'd have a very tough time blanketing those suckers to prevent cell-phone usage.
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Three-Phase posted:I read near the beginning of this thread the comments about cellphones - why don't/can't prisons install jammers to disable them? Germany is doing it in some of its prisons. It's expensive as hell and has questionable effect on the security of the prison. The system consists of hundreds of small jammers that only become active once they detects a mobile phone signal inside the prison, which is the only way how it could ever get approved by government. Problem is that it doesn't really block handheld radios, baby monitors and many other stuff. So if you want to plan an escape with someone outside, you can still do so. I guess it keeps prisons from watching porn and chatting, but is that really worth a couple millions $?
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The newest technique is just to set up local towers for all of the cell phone networks inside the prison. The signal from the local tower will overpower anything from outside so all cellphones in the prison will connect to them. You then set up a white list for the phones of prison staff and every other phone can't do anything (and generates an alert). The only issue is that there has been spillover into parking lots and local houses in some prisons.
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GlassElephant posted:The newest technique is just to set up local towers for all of the cell phone networks inside the prison. The signal from the local tower will overpower anything from outside so all cellphones in the prison will connect to them. You then set up a white list for the phones of prison staff and every other phone can't do anything (and generates an alert). The only issue is that there has been spillover into parking lots and local houses in some prisons. This is actually a good idea b/c it doesn't gently caress up guards using phones in emergencies but wouldn't be be real costly?
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:This is actually a good idea b/c it doesn't gently caress up guards using phones in emergencies but wouldn't be be real costly? Compared to the cost of building and running a prison, I don't think it would be that exorbitant. But I could be mistaken.
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It's cheap enough for a ton of police departments to afford it and illegally wiretap entire miles! I think the box costs a few $100k
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Bhodi posted:It's cheap enough for a ton of police departments to afford it and illegally wiretap entire miles! I think the box costs a few $100k Yes, industrial quality ones are around $100K, DIY ones are much cheaper but I'm sure the prisons would buy the commercial ones.
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Well I'm out. I overdosed and went to the psych ward... one day before I was supposed to get off GPS tether. I went from the nuthouse to county jail to IDRP (parole violation place, basically a lovely county jail) to Tri-Cap (community based rehab, basically a mix of rehab with minimum security jail). Been clean and on my antidepressants for like 100+ days now. I actually wrote a bunch of stuff in my journal to post here, covering the nuthouse and the overdose. I had saved up some paychecks before the overdose and had my girlfriend get an apartment in the next county over. I had my people call my PO over a month ago with the address and poo poo... he didn't even put in the transfer request until yesterday. So as of right now I'm in a "community center" basically an empty apartment where I have a tiny room. I'm loving sick right now... I would have rather stayed in Tri-Cap. When I feel better I'll write more, I'm just depressed as hell right now. All of my stuff is at the new apartment. The girl I started dating for only 3 weeks prior to the overdose has stayed with me the whole time, writing me, visiting me, etc. Her and my mom get along great. So at least I have that. You guys remember that scene in Step Brothers where they're sitting on folding chairs, eating whipped cream off of paper plates in the empty house... that's me right now. As always I appreciate all the support you guys have given me. About the overdose... they say not to mix boner pills with real drugs... they weren't lying.
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Holy poo poo, man. We'd about given up hope. Glad to hear you're alive. I hope you turn all this around somehow, and that your lady stuck by you.
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The Valuum posted:Well I'm out. I overdosed and went to the psych ward... one day before I was supposed to get off GPS tether. I went from the nuthouse to county jail to IDRP (parole violation place, basically a lovely county jail) to Tri-Cap (community based rehab, basically a mix of rehab with minimum security jail). Been clean and on my antidepressants for like 100+ days now. lol you are an impotent junkie. haha (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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CerealCrunch posted:lol you are an impotent junkie. haha 150mg of methadone and god knows how much etizolam (did hundreds of mgs over 3 days) will do that to anyone. I was fine until I railed half of a cialis. Fell out on top of my girlfriend, she had to yell for my mom to come and pull me off... it was all bad.
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Real glad to see an update man, I've been following this thread since it started and hoping the best for you. It's good to hear that your girl is sticking with you all of this, it can be really rough when you feel all alone. Depression is a bitch but hopefully you can take things one day at a time and you'll be in a better place by the time you get out of the community center.
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Holy poo poo man this is better than I hoped when I necro'd the thread. Love to hear more when you're able to share, I'm glad to hear that you're okay and not back in prison.
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The Valuum posted:150mg of methadone and god knows how much etizolam (did hundreds of mgs over 3 days) will do that to anyone. Seriously dude, that poo poo will put your blood pressure in the tank; you're lucky you were with someone who could get you the help you needed. We're all pulling for you man. Keep pushing no matter what. You can do it.
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tehinternet posted:Seriously dude, that poo poo will put your blood pressure in the tank; you're lucky you were with someone who could get you the help you needed. Some of us have had struggles with drugs and want to see you pull through. You've got a good head on your shoulders. Fight for what's right.
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Glad to hear you didn't flop for good, Valuum. Not just because you'd have reinforced the methadone=BAD stigma! (I take it daily, and it has helped save my life.) Keep going strong with your support network, your family and ladyfriend are valuable assets, especially in these times when you have little for yourself. Depression is hell, and if you continue with sobriety, you'll have some difficult days and nights ahead. Medication is great, but nothing beats social support and counseling (in my experience). I wish the best for you, man.
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Valuum, what is your goal as far as your drug use? Methadone maintenance going forward? Abstinence at some point? 'gently caress it, just don't let my P.O. find out'?
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Pershing posted:Valuum, what is your goal as far as your drug use? Methadone maintenance going forward? Abstinence at some point? 'gently caress it, just don't let my P.O. find out'? I wasn't going to the methadone clinic, I just bought a bunch of 10mg pills off the street. I don't want to every gently caress with opiates or crack again. I want to smoke weed when I get off parole. I had about $100 when I got out of tri-cap, I ended up giving it to my girl so I wouldn't be tempted. This parole house SUCKS, my mom and dad are going to get me a hotel room. The kitchen here doesn't even have pots or pans, there's a few plastic sporks, a few cups, and a toaster oven. There's an old pedophile downstairs and apparently another dude up here but I haven't seen him come in yet.
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Good luck man. Just stay off the opiates, they seem to be really bad for you.
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I'm working on something right now, just a description of Tri-Cap. I wrote about the overdose in my journal as well as the nuthouse but I'm not looking forward to transcribing my handwritten stories. I'll get to it though. I also decided to take a stab at doing the nuthouse story as a first person narrative, which is something new for me. I don't want to come off like a pompous rear end in a top hat like the dudes in "A Million Little Pieces" or "Tweak". I also found those books to come off as really unauthentic. Dialog has been the main problem for me since I obviously don't remember the exact words. I'm also going to take some pictures of this lovely community placement. Thanks for all the support once again. Edit: Meant to write more but my back is killing me since all I have is a mattress on the floor. Tricap Tri-Cap is a hard place to describe if you’ve never been locked up or to rehab in any form. It’s a mixture of both, really. It was by far the easiest time I’ve ever done, possibly easier than prison even (I’ll get into why later). It’s not jail in the sense you are locked in because you can leave any time, it’s just a guaranteed parole violation. Tri-Cap had 3 sides, a woman’s, a men’s probation side, and a men’s parole. The Probation side held around 100 people while parole kept a population of around 10-18. It was a nice amount of people compared to dealing with a 100 people who for the most part don’t know how to jail since they’ve never been to prison. The “Resident Advisors” are basically the equivalent of a C/O or guard. The RA’s, like most people working corrections, are a mix of true assholes and normal people. In this case though the normal people are pretty much all younger college students pursuing a career in law enforcement. The RA’s though are very polarizing in how they treat you. A few were cooler than any CO I’ve ever encountered while others were more petty than anything I’ve ever seen. The thing about Tri-Cap is it’s low-security, no one is doing any real time (30, 60, or 90 days parole side, 30-150 days probation side), all the parole violators are there for just dirty drops, etc. For example I was there for 60 days and didn’t see one fight, some of the RA’s said they couldn’t even remember the last fight. Despite this a few of the RA’s acted like they were working on Death Row in San Quentin. When I talk about rear end in a top hat RA’s there is one in particular I am thinking of. You can also smoke at Tri-Cap during smoke breaks. My family wouldn’t buy me cigarettes and in the world I smoke an E-Cig. Unfortunately I couldn’t help but pick up the habit again. There was a big bucket where people threw their butts so I used to go butt diving quite often which I got a lot of poo poo for. Like they’ve never smoked a butt before… Eventually the RA’s put out a memo to watch for me butt diving but a few let me do it anyways. Towards the end I had made enough friends that almost always someone would just split one with me. Mr. B Mr. B was one of the worst corrections people I’ve ever had to deal with, every facility has one or two of them though. I don’t even know where to start with this guy… He was ridiculous tight on the rules and would even go as far as to make up his own. If you left your cup unattended at the table he would take it and throw it away, if he caught you talking in the bunk area he would yell at you. Every other RA let us have the remote for the TV, Mr. B made us request to use it to change the channel. Despite all of this, the guy never really wrote a ticket. Mr. B had done time in the service which is where I think he got a lot of authoritarian senses from. I’m no psychologist but I got the feeling he really enjoyed giving commands and being an rear end in a top hat to a group of people. When confronted one on one though he would act totally different. I don’t know if this is because he didn’t have the courage to be an rear end in a top hat on such a personal level, or if he would just realize that the people he was loving with could truly gently caress him up if they wanted to. I could type many stories of this guys shenanigans but one incident that stands out is when he tried to take around 20 guys visits. In Tri-Cap you have to fill out a weekly schedule which is ridiculously arbitrary and irrelevant. For example you fill out “0630 wake up”, “0700 breakfast” etc etc. The first few weeks I was there all we did for visits was put “1330 Visit”. All of a sudden he decided to change the required entry to “1330-1430 Visit”. Around 20 people all together did it in the fashion of the old weekly. He at first pulled 4 people from the parole side into the lobby to tell them he was taking their visit away for doing it wrong. A visit in Tri-Cap is seriously the highlight of the week. It’s worth noting that in prison you can even get visits on Loss of Privileges (you can’t in Tri-Cap as I learned the hard way). Hell, you can even get visits from the hole sometimes. My friend Brando ended up getting somewhat loud and aggressive. I couldn’t hear the words but I could see his body language and hand gestures. Mr. B ended up giving the visits back. Despite being a complete rear end in a top hat to us he loved to chime in about his fantasy football team when we were watching a football game. No one would ever respond to him. He also had no ear for sarcasm. Once when he was going on rant about how the army should spend less on mental health I said “Got PTSD, suck it up, pansy” and he agreed with me not realizing I was joking. Saginaw Psych When I found out I was going to a jail rehab I figured the therapy was going to be god awful but I was pleasantly surprised. All of the therapy is outsourced to Saginaw Psych which actually does a pretty good job. There are all different types of programs in Tri-Cap, specifically on the probation side. I was on the parole side and I had to attend 3 “pilots” (classes) a day, Monday through Friday. This actually made the time go by faster the majority of the time since the really excellent therapist worked the main bulk of the classes. I actually liked how people tended to keep it real instead of turning into Mr. Rogers all of a sudden. This is something I always hated about rehabs in the world. I get that you’re supposed to be positive and work towards changing, but at least keep it within reality. Like, c’mon, a week ago you were smoking crack in trailers with black mold, now you’re Ned Flanders? The Valuum fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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The Valuum posted:About the overdose... they say not to mix boner pills with real drugs... they weren't lying. gently caress dude, you Lamar Odom'd it.
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The Valuum posted:I'm working on something right now, just a description of Tri-Cap. I wrote about the overdose in my journal as well as the nuthouse but I'm not looking forward to transcribing my handwritten stories. I'll get to it though. I also decided to take a stab at doing the nuthouse story as a first person narrative, which is something new for me. I don't want to come off like a pompous rear end in a top hat like the dudes in "A Million Little Pieces" or "Tweak". I also found those books to come off as really unauthentic. Dialog has been the main problem for me since I obviously don't remember the exact words. A Million Little Pieces was a hoax. Oprah dragged his rear end back on the show to shame him for making it all up. Dude still got paid from that book club money though.
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syscall girl posted:A Million Little Pieces was a hoax. worth it
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syscall girl posted:A Million Little Pieces was a hoax. Yeah I remember hearing all about it. I read the first 80 or so pages of the book in jail one time, it just came off as totally fake. I recall a dialog exchange where he told a doctor he had drank a fifth that day, to which the doctor asked how it compared to his daily intake. "It doesn't" was his reply... I don't care how much of a drinker you are a fifth is still a lot to drink. Not to mention he was supposed to be like 20 years old or something. Edited my last post to include some of my Tri-Cap writings. Here's a picture of the parole house kitchen.  Wondering where the cabinets are? Me too...
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I'm the off-rails drawer beneath the range. Valuum, my friend, good to see you back!  I'm still FB friends with you and have PMs if you want to talk. I was worried about you, son. Glad there's some actual good psych going on at Tri-Cap. My biggest beef inside was that we got absolutely no therapy whatsoever. I've got 2 psych degrees myself, and would love nothing more than helping convicted folks, though my brief stint probably means I could never get a job doing it (even though I can empathize even more of what it's like to, say, never get a good night's sleep bc the lights never loving shut off). JacquelineDempsey fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I'm the off-rails drawer beneath the range. Even though you'd almost certainly do a better job than a straight at empathizing and offering up real life experience, it might not be in your best interest. I was locked up with a substance abuse counselor who'd fallen way off the wagon. Ended up going to the treatment center he used to work at. Guy knew everyone of course but he was a mess by then, even inside. Not a healthy or safe environment when you yourself are at risk. Just saiyan
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If I can stay clean long-term (77-day streak and counting!), I would love to become a counselor. One of the most effective counselors at the clinic I attend is a former patient. As the *A folks say, "the power of one addict helping another is without parallel." ____ Stay strong while you're in residential...I've seen a lot of good dudes give-in to the temptation of getting high with new acquaintances. Halfway houses can be a real trap. Best wishes! Stay busy!
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