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GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Vorpal Cat posted:

Ive never play HoI but this seems kind of ironic considering in Victoria 2 you want to do everything possible to avoid getting a laissez faire party in charge because the player can do such a better job of managing the economy compared to your capitalist class which seems to be populated almost entirely by circa 2008 hedge fund managers.

Looking forward to this thread, Kaiserreich always looked like such an interesting alt history scenario.

Central Planning gives you 20% more Industrial Capacity (IC) while Free Market gives you -25% ugprade costs and time (CP gives +25%) and -20% production time and cost. Since upgrades and production are pretty much what you'll be spending your IC on most of the time, FM is plain better.

E: CSM, will you be explaining the mechanics when they come up?

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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

GrossMurpel posted:

Central Planning gives you 20% more Industrial Capacity (IC) while Free Market gives you -25% ugprade costs and time (CP gives +25%) and -20% production time and cost. Since upgrades and production are pretty much what you'll be spending your IC on most of the time, FM is plain better.

E: CSM, will you be explaining the mechanics when they come up?

I'll focus the intermission games on gameplay (plus they'll be more concise in general), so that people can see how the game works (in a general sense, there's some mechanics that are still opaque to me even after hundreds of hours in HoI2 and its derivatives). I'll probably need a break from coming up with different ways to write updates by then too.

e: Central Planning is indeed garbage but I am literally America so I'm sure I'll be alright. I guess it is a weird shift from Victoria 2 but historically even the most free market nations seized a great deal of control over the economies in order to direct the war effort. Otherwise I can imagine playing the USA and getting invaded by Japan because the capitalist class considers glass to be a higher priority than naval artillery.

csm141 fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 1, 2014

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Chief Savage Man posted:

I'll focus the intermission games on gameplay (plus they'll be more concise in general), so that people can see how the game works (in a general sense, there's some mechanics that are still opaque to me even after hundreds of hours in HoI2 and its derivatives). I'll probably need a break from coming up with different ways to write updates by then too.

e: Central Planning is indeed garbage but I am literally America so I'm sure I'll be alright. I guess it is a weird shift from Victoria 2 but historically even the most free market nations seized a great deal of control over the economies in order to direct the war effort. Otherwise I can imagine playing the USA and getting invaded by Japan because the capitalist class considers glass to be a higher priority than naval artillery.

Yeah you don't really need FM but it still hurts to see infantry upgrade times >100 days.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Two: Seeds of Crisis (January-April 1936)
i don't know a whole lot about telegrams



quote:

RESTRICTED

To: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

DEVELOPMENTS IN LONDON - SEVERAL OF MY STAFF HAVE REPORTED A GREAT DEAL OF ACTIVITY AND DEBATE AROUND THE CITY ABOUT A RUMORED MEETING TAKING PLACE IN BIRMINGHAM BETWEEN INFLUENTIAL SOCIALISTS. MOSLEY MUSSOLINI VALOIS AND BERIA ARE REPORTED TO BE ATTENDING TO DISCUSS THEIR DOCTRINAL SIMILARITIES. THEY FAVOR A CENTRALIZED APPROACH NOT UNLIKE THE BOLSHEVIKS AND SO REPRESENT A CHALLENGE TO THE TRADE UNIONIST AND SYNDICALIST STRUCTURES OF BRITAIN AND FRANCE. THE FOUR WILL SUPPOSEDLY COLLABORATE ON A DOCUMENT DETAILING WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. I AM SURE SOMEBODY WILL MAKE IT AVAILABLE IN THE UNITED STATES.

CHARLES DAWES
LONDON



quote:

CONFIDENTIAL
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL MITCHELL ONLY

William,

I have indeed seen the Totalist Charter. The FBI will continue to monitor the Reds like we've discussed. I've also directed that special attention be paid to William Foster. We may need to lock him up before he can build support for this Totalism treason. City Hall in Chicago has, however, been reluctant to cooperate with our previous attempts to arrest syndicalists so this may be more complicated than we've anticipated. Overt action could provoke riots that we are not equipped to deal with. For now, my agents are working on discovering ways to keep the Reds squabbling amongst themselves. A united front of Reds must be avoided at all costs.

J. Edgar Hoover
Federal Investigation Bureau



quote:

RESTRICTED

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

KERENSKY WAS SHOT AND KILLED THIS MORNING. THERE HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATIONS AND RIOTS IN THE STREETS ALL DAY. GOVERNMENT HAS COLLAPSED. THE MENSHEVIKS AND LEFT SR ARE PREPARING TO FORM A NEW GOVERNMENT. THE MOSCOW CONSULATE IS REPORTING BOLSHEVIK ACTIVITY IN THAT CITY. I AM MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR STAFF AND FAMILIES TO STEAM TO HELSINKI IF NECESSARY. WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED.

WILLIAM BULLITT
PETROGRAD



quote:

RESTRICTED

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

SPOKE TO EMPEROR TODAY REGARDING THE SITUATION IN RUSSIA. THE EMPIRES MAIN CONCERN IS THAT CHAOS IN RUSSIA COULD EMBOLDEN MAD BARON IN MONGOLIA TO MOVE INTO INNER MONGOLIA. THERE IS NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ON OUR END.

NELSON T JOHNSON
PEKING



quote:

TO: PRESIDENT HOOVER WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON

THANK YOU FOR THE MESSAGE INFORMING US OF THE VICE PRESIDENTS RECOVERY. WE ARE ALL VERY RELIEVED TO HEAR HE IS DOING WELL. I APOLOGIZE FOR BRINGING UP POLITICS AT A TIME LIKE THIS BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK IN THE PRESS THAT CURTIS IS UNSUITABLE TO RUN BECAUSE OF HIS HEALTH. WE WILL NEED TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO REASSURE PUBLIC OF HIS VITALITY. IF WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS JACK REED OR HUEY LONG COULD POSSIBLY STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF BEING ELECTED THAN GARNER OR CURTIS. I WILL BE TRAVELING TO WASHINGTON NEXT WEEK AND WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU AND THE VICE PRESIDENT.

HENRY FLETCHER
CHAIRMAN REPUBLICAN PARTY



quote:

SECRET

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

I HAD A MEETING TODAY WITH THE CHANCELLOR AND KAISER. THEY GAVE A NUMBER OF REASSURANCES THAT GERMANY WOULD INTERVENE TO REPAIR THE EFFECTS OF LAST WEEKS CRASH. AFTER THIS I SPOKE WITH THE DUTCH AND POLISH AMBASSADORS WHO WERE AT CITY PALACE FOR THEIR OWN CONSULTATIONS WITH THE CHANCELLOR. THEY ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT HE HAS THIS UNDER CONTROL. REPORTS OUT OF WARSAW ARE PARTICULARLY TROUBLING. I HAVE SENT ORDERS FOR OUR CONSULAR STAFF IN WARSAW TO RETURN HERE UNTIL THE SITUATION HAS IMPROVED.

FREDERIC SACKETT
BERLIN



quote:

SECRET

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

THANK YOU FOR INFORMING ME OF THE SITUATION IN BERLIN. AS PER YOUR INSTRUCTIONS I HAVE INSTRUCTED MY CONSULAR STAFF IN EACH OF THE CONSTITUENT CAPITALS OF THE EMPIRE TO MONITOR NATIONALIST SENTIMENT. THE PAPERS IN VIENNA ARE ALREADY REPORTING MASS RALLIES IN BUDAPEST CALLING FOR AN IMMEDIATE RENEGOTIATION OF THE AUSGLEICH.

GILCHRIST STOCKTON
VIENNA




quote:

TOP SECRET
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FOR DIRECTOR HOOVER ONLY

Are you out of your god damned mind? I ask you to monitor the strike and I end up with Henry Ford writing me to tell me he appreciates our advice regarding 'Ford's security action.' I asked you to do your best to keep the peace in Detroit and you end up going behind my back to enlist Ford in your god damned witch hunt. There's a difference between trade unionists and syndicalists but if this happens enough times then they will be syndicalists. You are lucky you have had so many successes against the Mafia or else you would be gone already.
I'm giving you one chance to redeem yourself. Charlie Chaplin is premiering a new movie in New York soon and Reed and all the European Reds will be there. Keep an eye on them all and do not make a scene out of it. This country is on unsteady ground as it is and if you keep worsening the situation, I will have you fired, political consequences be damned.

William D Mitchell
Attorney General of the United States



quote:

RESTRICTED

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

UPDATE ON MONGOLIA SITUATION. MAD BARON SIGNED A PACT WITH THE TIBETANS WITH CLEAR IMPLICATIONS FOR THE WARLORDS IN THE INTERIOR. WE HAVE NO INTERESTS THAT DEEP IN THE COUNTRY BUT IF MONGOLIA GAINS STRENGTH THEN IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT STERNBERG COULD BE MAD ENOUGH TO GO AFTER RUSSIA OR THE QING.

NELSON T JOHNSON
PEKING



quote:

SECRET

TO: AMBASSADOR SOUTH LISBON

IT IS CLEAR THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GROWING WEARY WITH GOERINGS ANTICS. THEY ARE CLEARLY NOT WILLING TO BACK THE DEMANDS FOR ANGOLA AND MOZAMBIQUE. THE FOREIGN MINISTER SPOKE RECENTLY OF PORTUGAL AND IRELAND AS ISLANDS OF STABILITY IN WESTERN EUROPE SO THE GOVERNMENT CLEARLY PRIORITIZES KEEPING SALAZAR IN POWER OVER EXPANDING MITTELAFRIKA.

FREDERIC SACKETT
BERLIN



quote:

SECRET

TO: AMBASSADOR DAWES LONDON

THE GRAND FLEET HAS CAUSED PANIC IN DUBLIN. COLLINS HAS ASKED JUST ABOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR SUPPORT AT THIS POINT. THE GERMANS ARE UNWILLING TO RISK WAR OVER IRELAND. I TOLD HIM THAT WE HAVE NO CAPABILITY TO HELP THEM. THE ROYALISTS ARE JUST ABOUT THE ONLY RELEVANT POWER WILLING TO MAKE A STATEMENT HERE. KEEP ME UPDATED. PERHAPS IF THIS GOES SOUR I WILL BE WORKING FOR YOU AS THE NEW DUBLIN CONSUL.

FREDERICK STERLING
DUBLIN



quote:

TOP SECRET

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

THE POPE BROUGHT ME INTO THE VATICAN AND OFFICIALLY REQUESTED THAT THE UNITED STATES TAKE FATHER COUGHLIN OFF THE AIR. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF SPECIFIC CONSEQUENCES IF WE REFUSE AND I EXPLAINED AT LENGTH ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. HIS HOLINESS SAID HE UNDERSTANDS OUR CONSTITUTION BUT EMPHASIZES THE 'MUTUAL CONSEQUENCES FOR ITALY AND THE UNITED STATES' IF WE DO NOT INTERVENE. PLEASE ADVISE.

JOHN W GARRETT
ROME



quote:

TO: SENATORS DAVIS AND REED WASHINGTON

I AM WRITING TO ASK BOTH OF YOU TO DO ALL IN YOUR POWER TO GET THE PRESIDENT TO RECONSIDER HIS DECISION NOT TO SEND AID TO PITTSBURGH. THE SITUATION THERE IS EXTREMELY BAD. RIGHT NOW THE ONLY GROUPS PROVIDING AID TO ANYBODY ARE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE COMBINED SYNDICATES. THE LATTER ARE EVEN HANDING OUT LEAFLETS WITH LOAVES OF BREAD PLANNING GOD KNOWS WHAT. I KNOW THAT WE ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE AISLE BUT IF WE DO NOT COOPERATE TO RESTORE THE FAITH OF PENNSYLVANIANS IN THEIR GOVERNMENT THEN ALL THREE OF OUR OFFICES WILL END UP OCCUPIED BY SYNDICALISTS IN DUE TIME.

GOVERNOR EARLE
HARRISBURG



quote:

RESTRICTED

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

THE TREATY POWERS WERE PROVIDED THE DIVIDEND REPORTS FOR THIS YEAR TODAY. THEY ARE BETTER THAN EXPECTED AND I WILL SEND THEM TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

JOHN J MUCCIO
HONG KONG



quote:

CONFIDENTIAL

TO: SECRETARY HURLEY WASHINGTON

I MET WITH UPCA OFFICERS TODAY WHO WERE REQUESTING PERMISSION TO MOVE THEIR FORCES ACROSS THE CANAL ZONE. THEIR TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT ARE NOT MUCH BETTER THAN THE PANAMANIANS BUT THEY DO FIELD A LARGER ARMY AND TOGETHER WITH PANAMA THEY COULD BE ABLE TO RESIST CENTROAMERICAN ENCROACHMENT. THE CANAL ZONE IS SAFER TODAY THAN IT WAS YESTERDAY AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS. HOWEVER WE CONTINUE TO APPREHEND CENTROAMERICAN AGENTS ATTEMPTING TO UNIONIZE THE WORKERS IN THE CANAL ZONE. THE BORDER CONTROLS AND DRILLS WILL CONTINUE INDEFINITELY.

MAJ GEN JULIAN L SCHLEY



quote:

TOP SECRET

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

ZAPATA SUCCUMBED TO HIS ILLNESS THIS MORNING. THE MILITARY IS MAINTAINING ORDER THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AS BEST AS WE CAN TELL. THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT ELECTIONS WILL TAKE PLACE 'WHEN THE MOURNING PERIOD HAS PASSED'. AS WE DISCUSSED THIS WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL AFTER THEY HAVE DISMANTLED THE LAND REFORM PROGRAMS AND OUR INTERESTS HAVE BEEN REESTABLISHED. THEY WILL OF COURSE BE EXPECTING OUR PROMISED AID. A GOOD DAY FOR NORTH AMERICA.

J REUBEN CLARK
MEXICO CITY



quote:

RESTRICTED

TO: SECRETARY STIMSON WASHINGTON

AS EXPECTED WAR BROKE OUT THIS WEEK IN THE WEST BETWEEN THE WARLORDS AND THE MONGOLIANS. REPORTEDLY THE SHANGQING MOVEMENT HAS ALSO GOTTEN INVOLVED. QING OFFICIALS ARE UNCONCERNED AS OF RIGHT NOW SO I AM NOT EITHER. THE REPORTS OF BRUTALITY ON THE PART OF THE MAD BARON ARE SHOCKING HOWEVER. THEY MAKE ME THANK GOD THAT AMERICA ISNT SUSCEPTIBLE TO SUCH CONFLICT.

NELSON T JOHNSON
PEKING

Ghostwoods
May 9, 2013

Say "Cheese!"
Is there some specific benefit for pumping up national dissent? Or does it just not really matter?

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Ghostwoods posted:

Is there some specific benefit for pumping up national dissent? Or does it just not really matter?

He's just speeding up the inevitable.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Ghostwoods posted:

Is there some specific benefit for pumping up national dissent? Or does it just not really matter?

My goal is to trigger the American Civil War events so I can play as one of the factions. I actually have no idea how exactly those event chains work so I assumed that bumping up dissent would make sure it happened (it did). Also seems in character with Hoover being inept and out of touch with just how bad things are getting.

Ferrosol
Nov 8, 2010

Notorious J.A.M

Spoilering for the three people who've never played this mod before and are reading. The American civil war is triggered by event after the November elections not by dissent so you can do what you like during the buildup. The only civil war triggered by dissent is the Russian Civil War.

Also may I recommend Brazil for one of your side games. It was overseen by some insane sperg talented modder who knew a fair bit about Brazilian politics in the era and there are a lot of different ways you can take the country. It's probably second only to Russia in the number of permutations it can have.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Ferrosol posted:

Spoilering for the three people who've never played this mod before and are reading. The American civil war is triggered by event after the November elections not by dissent so you can do what you like during the buildup.
Not that it matters because the events will hammer the USA with dissent regardless of what choices you make.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Chief Savage Man posted:

My goal is to trigger the American Civil War events so I can play as one of the factions. I actually have no idea how exactly those event chains work so I assumed that bumping up dissent would make sure it happened (it did). Also seems in character with Hoover being inept and out of touch with just how bad things are getting.

Yeah, the ACW never not happens, with one bugged exception: If you elect Long and stay moderate, you can skirt by without triggering anything. Clearly, this proves Long USA is best USA.

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

TheMcD posted:

Yeah, the ACW never not happens, with one bugged exception: If you elect Long and stay moderate, you can skirt by without triggering anything. Clearly, this proves Long USA is best USA.

I had that happen to me entirely by accident. I was quite confused.

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

TheMcD posted:

Yeah, the ACW never not happens, with one bugged exception: If you elect Long and stay moderate, you can skirt by without triggering anything. Clearly, this proves Long USA is best USA.

The exact opposite of the Long Parliament, then.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


I always forget when a Kaiserriech thread shows up, the Syndicalists are a version of communists based around trade unions, right? Did that happen anywhere in real life and work longer than like a year?

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Triskelli posted:

I always forget when a Kaiserriech thread shows up, the Syndicalists are a version of communists based around trade unions, right? Did that happen anywhere in real life and work longer than like a year?

Anarchist Catalonia was anarcho-syndicalist, and that lasted longer than a year. The IWW is an anarcho-syndicalist union that's still around, though marginal. Most support for revolutionary syndicalism faded as people flocked to the Bolsheviks or towards reformist socialism after WWI, and what was left largely dried up after WWII as the largest remaining syndicalist unions had been severely hurt.

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


How effective were those handful of governments?

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Triskelli posted:

How effective were those handful of governments?

Anarchist Catalonia was pretty effective in increasing agricultural production and industrial production, but a) they were hated by every single other member of the Republican Coalition and hated them back in return, which led to b) the Comintern-affiliated groups attacking them, and c) their defeat with the rest of the Republicans, though they held out the longest.

There are also a number of worker's and farmer's co-ops that are necessarily run along syndicalist lines throughout the world, and they're generally pretty effective at what they do, though not able to compete on the same level as capitalist producers.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Triskelli posted:

I always forget when a Kaiserriech thread shows up, the Syndicalists are a version of communists based around trade unions, right? Did that happen anywhere in real life and work longer than like a year?

Yeah its more or less about workers ownership and union democracy. It did have a good deal of traction in Spain during the Civil War for a few years before the Soviet-backed Republican government started to crack down on them.
There were prominent syndicalist organizations in Italy, France and the United States but the war, Red Scare and Soviet dickery meant that syndicalism was a non factor by the forties.
In this time line, the revolutions take place in highly industrialized nations with strong unions while the Bolsheviks in Russia lost so the Syndicalists have a lot more prestige.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Chief Savage Man posted:

Yeah its more or less about workers ownership and union democracy.
Also, the Romance languages pretty much equate "syndicate" with "union." See, e.g., Spanish "sindicato.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


I think in the Kaiserreich timeline it's slightly less of a statement about actual syndicalist politics and more "wouldn't it be cool if we used different terminology for communism/fascism in this mod?" Hence why we get things like Syndicalist and National Populist.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Drone posted:

I think in the Kaiserreich timeline it's slightly less of a statement about actual syndicalist politics and more "wouldn't it be cool if we used different terminology for communism/fascism in this mod?" Hence why we get things like Syndicalist and National Populist.

Isn't their Totalism basically real life Communism?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


GrossMurpel posted:

Isn't their Totalism basically real life Communism?

Totalism = Stalinism

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Drone posted:

I think in the Kaiserreich timeline it's slightly less of a statement about actual syndicalist politics and more "wouldn't it be cool if we used different terminology for communism/fascism in this mod?" Hence why we get things like Syndicalist and National Populist.

It does have elements of that but also does make an effort to be about actual syndicalism in the event text and so on. The disconnect comes in the game mechanics, because HOI2/Darkest Hour's political sliders can't really represent syndicalism as an opposite to liberal/parliamentary democracy without making it authoritarian - and that's the least appropriate term for syndicalism that could possibly be chosen.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Drone posted:

I think in the Kaiserreich timeline it's slightly less of a statement about actual syndicalist politics and more "wouldn't it be cool if we used different terminology for communism/fascism in this mod?" Hence why we get things like Syndicalist and National Populist.

Syndicalism is not used as just another term for Leninism in Kaiserreich, all flavour text and events make it abundantly clear that we're talking about Union-based democracy instead of the head-of-state-for-life deal that the Soviet Union had going. Unless, of course, we're talking about Totalism, in which case it is indeed Stalinism by another name. Though, it has to contend with the institutions that bring it to power democratically, so just electing the Totalists (at least I think as the UoB) does not automatically mean the end of democracy, though that can happen in follow-up events.

Tamerlame
Oct 20, 2012

Now I don't know much about Franco after the civil war, but didn't he use some semi-syndicalist economic policies? I might be horribly misinformed, but it's what I've heard.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Tamerlame posted:

Now I don't know much about Franco after the civil war, but didn't he use some semi-syndicalist economic policies? I might be horribly misinformed, but it's what I've heard.

Basically the opposite; Franco liberalised Spain's economy (which was part of the deal for getting lots of US aid for his government).

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Three: Red Summer (May-July 1936)

Welcome back to WHPK, my next guest is Gary Johnson, director of the Chicago Historical Society, where the Third International exhibit will be opening next week. The exhibit began on May Day 2011 in the Carnavalet Museum in Paris as part of the celebration for the 75th anniversary of the enormously important First Congress in 1936. The exhibit has since been on a world tour, symbolically traveling to world capitals in order of their revolutions. After three years, it is Chicago's turn. I spoke with the director about the significance of the Congress.

Welcome, Mr. Johnson.

Thank you.



Where was the Congress and who attended?

The Congress was announced and held by the Commune of France in Paris. They were the de facto leaders of the worldwide Syndicalist movement and had the most to lose due to their proximity to the German Empire. The Commune sought to bring in representatives from nations all over the world to discuss the threat of Germany, expanding syndicalism throughout the world and seeking consensus on some other thorny questions. Other than France, Britain, Georgia, the Bhartiya Commune and the Socialists in Southern Italy attended, along with many representatives of syndicalist movements from capitalist states.



The First Congress is well remembered for its bold statements about global revolution. Who set this tone?

France, as the hosts and site of the first successful revolution, had the most prestige among all the attending states and so were chosen to open the Congress. In that opening speech, Chairman Pivert gave a rousing speech in which he stated that there could be no compromise with the bourgeoisie. The exhibit has an audio recording of this speech, from which you can tell that the rest of the Congress was enthusiastically in agreement with this vision.
Following the tone set by that speech, Jose Diaz Ramos of the CNT-FAI made an impassioned appeal to the Congress to support the cause of his organization in Spain. Britain and France immediately agreed.



Was there a delegation from the Combined Syndicates to the Congress?

Yes, Jack Reed and a number of important figures within the CSA were in attendance. On the second day, Jack Reed took the floor and made numerous appeals to history. He spoke at length about how Britain and America had both rejected the King, which resulted in a great deal of applause from the British delegation and then referred to the role of France in the first American Revolution and how France's assistance could turn the tide in yet another Revolution. It was perfectly tuned to the themes of global revolution and the long arc of history that the Congress was based around, and thus, Reed left Paris with pledges of support from both Britain and France.



What other states sought support from the Congress?

The Socialists in Naples had long been a close ally of the Commune, and they sought an ironclad commitment from Paris that they would assist them in uniting Italy, which was granted.
The Bhartiya Commune also spoke of the potential of the Indian masses united under the syndicalist banner before making an appeal for technical assistance to modernize their colonial-era military, which was also readily provided by Britain and France.



The Congress is also remembered as an important milestone in the fight for women's equality. How did that come about?

There was a great deal of women among the delegates and it was generally agreed upon by most men within the Internationale that gender equality was important. What varied among them was just how important they thought it was. Some factions thought it was a distraction that could be handled after the business of revolution was completed while others thought it was necessary to even achieve it in the first place. The French delegation took the latter view and thus were able to push through a forceful declaration that declared womens rights to be a central pillar of the revolution.



There was also a strategic aspect to the feminist focus. The Entente and German Empires were deeply sexist, in the monarchist tradition, and most of the Internationale's enemies did not have women's suffrage. The declaration provoked suffragist demonstrations across the world. Germany in particular was forced to give some concessions to suffragists, which triggered a great deal of turmoil within the conservative establishment.



The Congress had many delegates from hostile states, such as Germany and Austria-Hungary. How did they fare upon returning home?

Badly for the most part. The governments of the states targeted by the Internationale quickly retaliated against those they had known to attend. Police turned a blind eye to the murder of one delegate's family in Germany, in one particularly horrifying incident. Those who didn't attend had planned rallies in solidarity with the Congress, which were violently suppressed. Delegates from those nations, like Tim Buck in Canada, read telegrams from home about what had been done to their friends and families.
This incensed the Congress and there were even calls for immediate war against Germany when the FAUD delegates spoke of their organization being banned, though cooler heads prevailed at this point. The Internationale was building steam but it was not quite ready for that.



How did the outside world react to the Congress?

As I said before, many parties rallied in solidarity with the Internationale, facing reprisal and arrest for doing so. Many states and parties also decided to make their own statements at a time when the Internationale was dominating the headlines and consciousness of the world.



The Socialists in Italy were especially emboldened by the pledge of French support. The Pope aimed to counteract the Internationale's momentum by issuing an encyclical against it. The Socialists immediately responded by seizing the Church's property in their territory, a risk they might not have taken even a few years earlier.




Solidarity protests in Bolivia escalated quickly with police violence causing protesters to turn violent and occupy the Presidential Palace, where Victor Paz Estenssoro proclaimed a new revolutionary government, adding Bolivia to the ranks of the Internationale before the Congress had even ended.



The exiled French realized the Commune's vision was compelling and triggering unrest in Africa. They decided that an Imperial Restoration was equally compelling. Metropolitan France wasn't impressed.




Centroamerica had not had a speaker at the Internationale but was nonetheless emboldened by it, giving their backing to a Syndicalist uprising in Panama. The government was weak and propped up by the United States, which was unable to prevent their puppet's demise. Within weeks, the population had voted to join Centroamerica, putting the American control of the Panama Canal under serious threat.



How did the Internationale affect the political situation in the United States?

Jack Reed's speech, with its broad scope and inspiring vision, gained the CSA many new supporters, especially with Hoover's government acting so inefficiently to deal with the Great Heat Wave that struck the next month. With the death of Alexander Berkman, Jack Reed was now the most prominent socialist of any stripe in the nation and it provided a great deal of momentum for his planned presidential campaign. The reactionary elements in the United States were quick to respond, with America First rallies across the South and an explosion of racial violence, leading to the papers terming it the 'Red Summer.'



By the Fourth of July, the Democrats and Republicans were in a panic, with some even suggesting they put forward a joint candidate if only to prevent Reed or Long from becoming President at all costs. The idea gained a lot of traction, but the machinery of the two parties was already in gear and it was too late to avert what was to come.

Thanks for your time, Director.

Certainly. The exhibit opens on May Day, we hope to see you here!

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Digging the narrative style where each post is framed in a different historical context (online classroom, diplomatic cables, radio interview). That's one of the things I liked best about Rincewind's LP, and glad to see you're taking inspiration from that. Keep goin!

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter 4: The Stirring Masses (July-September 1936)

Dear Jimmy O.,

Thank you so much for your letter. I am always glad to speak with a young person interested in journalism. As to your question about the best career move I ever made, I would have to say for certain that it was when I decided to take a trip around the world in 1936, with the thought to go to wherever the news was happening. It opened my eyes to so much of what the world outside this country had to offer, and I met many incredible people and witnessed some amazing events that I'll never forget.



It started when I heard about the Arab Congress in Cairo. I had recently read T.E. Lawrence's excellent account of his time amongst the Arabs during the Great War and was interested to see how their spirits were holding up after their defeat by the Germans and Ottomans. When I got to Cairo, I met Arab delegates from all over the Arab world and even spoke to nervous ambassadors from colonial powers.



When the Egyptian Sultan announced Egypt's claims on the Turks, the crowds went wild in a display of nationalist fervor that was equal parts beautiful and abhorrent to behold. Describing the attitude of that crowd is one of the most challenging correspondences I ever had to write.



Another interesting experience was when I was interviewing a representative of the Bedouin tribes in Arabia when an Egyptian minister angrily confronted him about their competing claims to the Levant. It took the two men five minutes to realize they were having what should have been a private confrontation in front of an American stranger.



From there, I had spoken to a French ambassador who described to me the planned coronation of a new Napoleon. This was a spectacle I couldn't afford to miss. The pomp, the circumstance, the gold and jewels, it was the type of royalist splendor that you would never see in the era of syndicalism.



I decided to take a ship from Algiers to Istanbul at that point, and when I arrived in Istanbul I overheard of some upheaval in Georgia. After a train ride east and some difficulty getting into the country, I was the only American journalist present when the Georgian government proclaimed their ambitions to control the Caucasus.



After a very interesting train ride through Persia and India, I arrived in China just in time for the Republican uprising. The Republic had been dismantled many years before and the thought of a united China struck panic in many Europeans in the country.



The most interesting group of people I met were the Shangqing Tianguo religious movement. Their xenophobic attitude towards Westerners led to some hair raising episodes but I was one of the few outsiders at the time who had gotten any access at all into the reclusive movement. I even witnessed one of their pitched mountain battles with the AOG forces, which was also hard to describe. It almost had a fantastic quality to it, like I was witnessing some episode out of ancient Chinese history only with rifles and artillery.



The republicans had been wiped out before I even left china, though the Shangqing fought on for years after the defeat of the southern revolution.



If there was anything I regretted about the trip, its that I missed the Stanley Cup, I heard it was an incredible series and I really would have liked to see the scene in Detroit when they won.



I was in Hong Kong looking into passage back home when the news came across the wires that the Bolsheviks in Russia had revolted yet again! I had wanted to leave university to report on the first revolution but got dissuaded by my parents. This was a rare second chance!



I arrived while the negotiations were taking place. The Bolsheviks wanted to be a part of the government and the Whites refused. All the while, both sides were frozen in place, gathering strength. The tension was so palpable it felt like if you lit a cigarette at the wrong time, you could ignite the whole situation.



I was pretty glad to be in Russia, since it was apparently so hot back home. It was hardly pleasant in Russia but it wasn't that bad!



The situation in Russia took on a bizarre quality as both sides decided not to attack just yet. The Whites were almost pretending nothing was going on at all, having discussions about tariffs and naval strategy when Bolsheviks were just miles away.



Finally, the war erupted. The street violence was some of the worst I've ever seen, worse than Spain and America by far.




I didn't spend very long in Russia, cognizant of the increasing danger and eager to see more of the world. While I was there, I did meet a great deal of interesting folks on the White side, some Japanese, Finns, Germans, Poles among other nationalities. The correspondence from Russia is some of my favorite because of the stories of these people from all over the world and what their motivations for laying down their lives in a foreign land were.



After the austere and brutal nature of the Russian Civil War, I decided to change up the scenery by heading somewhere with some more beauty, namely Italy. I had never been to Italy before and wanted to witness and report on a Papal mass and see what kind of stories of pilgrimage I could find amidst the opulence of Rome and the Vatican. When I got there, I was just in time to report on the Anzio crisis! I was so lucky on this trip with my timing. So much of our profession is about knowing when you're in the right place at the right time.



After being one of the few American journalists, it was a relief to be around a number of my countrymen in Rome. They had a lot to say about what had happened back home since I left. One journalist from the Los Angeles Times was insistent he had seen aliens flying in the Southwest desert, but his colleague assured me he was touched in the head and not to pay any attention to him. I always did wonder if he had really seen something.



An old friend of mine had tipped me off to a leak that the King in Canada had made a veiled threat to Hoover if the CSA were to win the election. I had almost forgotten that the election was coming up! I had to get back in time for that at least.



I'm sure a smart boy like you knows your history, so you know that I never did get to see that election. I could write a whole other volume on what I saw during the leadup to Revolution but I think this old newsman has rambled on enough. Take chances and risks as a journalist, Jimmy, go to places nobody else thinks to go, find your ways into places you're not supposed to be, be persistent when you believe you have something worthwhile. It is there that you will find the stories nobody else is covering, and it is there that journalists can provide the greatest level of public service. Good luck to you, son, and good luck on your university project.

Yours Truly,
Ernie Pyle

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Drone posted:

Digging the narrative style where each post is framed in a different historical context (online classroom, diplomatic cables, radio interview). That's one of the things I liked best about Rincewind's LP, and glad to see you're taking inspiration from that. Keep goin!

I did an EU4 LP when it came out (on another forum) and I found that by the fifth war with Vijayanagar it became mildly torturous to write updates so I was honestly loathe to start another LP until I saw Rincewind's and took the idea of making it an in-universe thing because it makes the whole thing more entertaining to write and solves the problem of what to say about repetitious aspects of the game.

One more update until the shooting starts!

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
MacArthur! :argh:

I like how he is titled The American Tyrant when he is head of state in this way though.

Samolety
Jan 27, 2008

I have returned from negotiations with Comrade Ignatov and have found him to be quite agreeable.
I believe it is peace in our time.
Yeah, really good writing, Savage, I'm enjoying it a lot. Kaiserreich is great and deserves to be LP'd more than it is.

I dunno if you have the Syndicalist music pack, but it's pretty good and has some English socialist songs which can be hard to find sometimes. This is one of my favourites, to inspire you in the coming war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6pps_s4K8

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I've never played DH/Kaisereich, but every time I see an LP of it I'm just totally bowled over by the sheer depth and number of events it has. It almost makes me want to try to pick up DH, but I think I'm still too traumatized from my first Paradox game being vanilla Victoria 1 to be able to face the Europa engine again. :v:

Samolety
Jan 27, 2008

I have returned from negotiations with Comrade Ignatov and have found him to be quite agreeable.
I believe it is peace in our time.

Rincewind posted:

I've never played DH/Kaisereich, but every time I see an LP of it I'm just totally bowled over by the sheer depth and number of events it has. It almost makes me want to try to pick up DH, but I think I'm still too traumatized from my first Paradox game being vanilla Victoria 1 to be able to face the Europa engine again. :v:

DH is definitely a lot more approachable than Vicky, but can still be obtuse at times. Hopefully HoI4 will be awesome so we can move on from DH, but for the moment it really is the best at what it does.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Samolety posted:

Yeah, really good writing, Savage, I'm enjoying it a lot. Kaiserreich is great and deserves to be LP'd more than it is.

I dunno if you have the Syndicalist music pack, but it's pretty good and has some English socialist songs which can be hard to find sometimes. This is one of my favourites, to inspire you in the coming war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6pps_s4K8

I did play with that for a while but then it got old and I turned on Spotify instead. I do have one playlist with a mix of regular songs and the stuff from the pack though. My favorite is still this one for when I inevitably get bored in the late game and deploy nuclear weapons.

Rincewind posted:

I've never played DH/Kaisereich, but every time I see an LP of it I'm just totally bowled over by the sheer depth and number of events it has. It almost makes me want to try to pick up DH, but I think I'm still too traumatized from my first Paradox game being vanilla Victoria 1 to be able to face the Europa engine again. :v:

Darkest Hour is a bit tough but nowhere near Victoria levels of obtuse. Production is much easier to understand since you can always just set production orders yourself instead of trying to do the rain dance in Victoria to get your factories to build the things you need. Technology isn't bad to operate, match your teams' specialties to the tech you want and stick to certain paths (i.e. carrier focus vs battleship focus, close air support vs tac bombers, the different land doctrines, not just trying to research everything like you would in Vicky). You really can't go wrong with just building tons of infantry in DH so don't feel overwhelmed by all the different types of units available, Inf-Art will suffice to begin with.
Terrain is far more important in DH than any of the other games. Air units might take some getting used to but familiarize yourself with the mission menu, particularly the end date (just wait until your vital air mission ends early because you forgot to move forward the end time) and the territorial scope (province/region/area, so you don't have to deal with your air armada bombing a retreating unit the province next to the enormous army you're trying to wear down).
Naval combat is honestly a huge mystery to me in how it works so just ask for a good fleet composition on here and build that and smash it into enemy fleets. Also make sure you put Carrier Air Group brigades on your carriers unless you want to deploy carriers with no planes on them. The things that take getting used to are not having space bar to pause (you can edit a config file somewhere to add this but then you will not be able to type spaces when renaming units) and not having notifications up top so you'll have to pay more attention to the pop up messages. Really I am just trying to convince you to try DH so you can mod in the earth shattering world war between Ming, Byzantium, France and Ayiti.

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Another great update. And now we're finally coming to the good part. How far ahead are you playing?

Chief Savage Man posted:

The things that take getting used to are not having space bar to pause...

You can, however, press the actual "Pause" key on your keyboard, so it's not all bad.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

VostokProgram posted:

Another great update. And now we're finally coming to the good part. How far ahead are you playing?


You can, however, press the actual "Pause" key on your keyboard, so it's not all bad.

I've played up to 1940 by now but I won't be playing it for a bit while I catch up with updates and prepare for the first intermission mini LP.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011
SUPER DUPER MEGA PROTIP:
- go to /config (of DH, not KR)
- open Buttons.txt
- find id = "BUTTON_PAUSE"
- change the shortcut to space
like this
code:
press = {
	id = "BUTTON_PAUSE"
	bitmap = "empty.bmp"
	shortcut = space
	background = "pause_button.bmp"
	lower = "BUTTON_0050"
	upper = ""
	}

beefart
Jul 5, 2007

IT'S ON THE HOUSE OF AMON
~grandmaaaaaaa~

GrossMurpel posted:

SUPER DUPER MEGA PROTIP:
- go to /config (of DH, not KR)
- open Buttons.txt
- find id = "BUTTON_PAUSE"
- change the shortcut to space
like this
code:

press = {
	id = "BUTTON_PAUSE"
	bitmap = "empty.bmp"
	shortcut = space
	background = "pause_button.bmp"
	lower = "BUTTON_0050"
	upper = ""
	}

Only problem is that you can no longer gives ships multi-word names like the CNS Karl Marx and such if you use the space bar hotkey.

(I'm a huge sperg that does that with every new ship)

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

beefart posted:

Only problem is that you can no longer gives ships multi-word names like the CNS Karl Marx and such if you use the space bar hotkey.

(I'm a huge sperg that does that with every new ship)

You will see names like "Abraham_Lincoln_Corps" for precisely this reason. Honestly I've found it to be easier to just go into the savegame in Notepad++ and change everything like that.

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csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Five: Brother Against Brother (September-November 1936)



General Douglas MacArthur,

We are writing you to acknowledge the receipt of our orders as part of the Extraordinary Orders proclaimed this week. It is our solemn, moral and patriotic duty to inform you that we must disregard them. All of us, including you, took an oath upon our commissioning, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. In our collective opinion, your actions are in clear violation of that oath and therefore, your authority is illegitimate.


I flipped a coin on this one.

Our Commander-in-Chief entrusted you with temporary authorities to safeguard the Constitution in a time of crisis. You instead suspended the Constitution, assumed control for yourself and used your powers to back stab your America First co-conspirators in a disgusting display of political intrigue.



As the fabric of our great society frays and tears, your actions have been focused on removing threats to your power, rather than to restore order and engender faith in our democracy. The embarassing episode with Long in Baton Rouge did nothing but inflame the population and set the stage for the unfortunate situation this nation finds itself in today.



Perhaps the election would have put Reed into the White House, but we will never know thanks to your interference. Perhaps the United States would be friendly with the European syndicalists like the popularly elected Norwegian government. Perhaps the Canadians would have made good on their threats. Nonetheless, it is our duty to defend the legitimately elected government of these United States against any foreign power that would wish to change our public's mind, whether it be Canada, Germany or whoever else and regardless of our opinions regarding the policies of that government.





Because of your actions, we now face a grim future, not unlike the conflagration that has consumed Russia. Foreign states will turn the United States into their proxy battleground and already the West Coast seems inspired by the example of Siberia. It has taken centuries for our forefathers to forge this nation and expand it across this continent. It has taken you only weeks to propel it towards destruction.






Not since the time of Lincoln has the unity of these United States been under such threat. Already the states of the South secede under the leadership of Huey Long, who you so publicly failed to apprehend.




The best and brightest of this generation are going to die because of your actions and not to defend our nation from foreign aggression or to advance the cause of democracy, but in a shameful war between brothers over control of their common home.



Perhaps you, in your quest for power, did not anticipate the consequences of your actions. Perhaps you have been stockpiling and planning for this all along.



If your goal was to disrupt the syndicalists and prevent their rise to power, then you have failed. While you have spent the last week quarrelling with Long, Reed and his comrades have been preparing to defend themselves against your illegitimate junta.




It is our sworn duty to serve the Commander-in-Chief of these United States. These States are no longer United and neither you nor President Hoover can legitimately claim to be its Commander-in-Chief, as our men fight and kill one another and our great fleets defect to opposing ports.



Therefore, we have collectively resolved to do the only thing we can do, which is to serve the people and do whatever we can to restore democracy and prosperity to our homes. There is no path to democracy under your command. Long's regime offers an equally grim future, one filled with racism, anti-Semitism and jingoism. Even if you do win this war, you cannot put popular will into a cage forever. We have seen the events in the northern cities, and we can attest to the legitimacy of the people's desire to govern themselves along syndicalist lines.



As Victor Hugo once said, there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. This includes you, Long, the King in Canada, the Kaiser and whoever else claims to know what is best for the American people better than they do.

With all of this in mind, we collectively tender our resignations as officers in the United States Army and Navy, its Constitutional authority having been invalidated by your actions. Our moral duty is to defend the people and their will. Therefore, our oaths force us to designate you as a domestic enemy of the Constitution and to accept commissions within the Revolutionary Guards. We deeply regret that it has come to this, but your actions have given us no other choice. May God have mercy on all American souls, and may He levy justice on yours.

Signed November 11, 1936,

George Catlett Marshall
Maurice Rose
Hyman George Rickover
Gervais Raoul Lufbery

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