Is Marxism dead?

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ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Obama is president so it seems to be doing pretty well?

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ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

�A reformed Eurocommunist post-Marxist New Leftist Frankfurt School professor and social democrat was teaching a class on Nikita Khrushchev, known revisionist.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Leon Trotsky as the most class conscious revolutionary of all time and accept the Fourth International as the only legitimate representative of the interests of the workers of the world!"

At this moment a brave, revolutionary, unreformed Stalinst NKVD veteran who had an appreciation for socialist realist art and read a chapter of Capital every night before going to sleep stood up and waved the red flag.

"If Trotsky was so great, why wasn�t the revolution permanent?"

The arrogant professor smirked quite bourgeoisly and smugly replied, �Because the Soviet Union was a deformed workers state, you idiot gerontocrat!�

"Wrong. Comrade Stalin purged Russia of the kulaks and all enemies of the workers. If your theory of revolution was correct, we would have achieved communism by now."

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of A People�s History of the United States. He stormed out of the room crying social-fascist crocodile tears. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Noam Chomsky, wished he had adopted the policies of the Third Period and become more than an infantile leftist bourgeois stooge. He wished so much that he had not betrayed the revolution, but he himself had sold it out!

The students applauded and all sang the State Anthem of the USSR and accepted Socialism in One Country as the best path forward for proletarian cause. The professor lost his tenure and was taken out back and shot the next day.

The student�s name?

Lavrentiy Beria�

OTOH Beria was a pedo so...

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ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Everyone who wasn't Beria had a tremendous amount to lose from him gaining power so that probably helped.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2014 02:17

ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

I've had a look at a few more of these true stories of military veterans attacking educators and there's something I don't understand. The military is one of the most Marxist organisations in America, the Government provides soldiers with free housings, free food, free medical care, free education and a bunch of other stuff but they're attacking professors for promoting what they've benefited from. Are the soldiers angry that they no longer have access to the benefits or Marxism or are the educators from a different denomination of Marxism?

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ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
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Effectronica posted:

And actually, I'm talking about how the "pro-soldier" part of the Republican platform is something Democrats (on the national level) have copied while being somewhat more anti-war, instead of staking out a unique and opposing position. The overriding right-wing beliefs are hardly inevitable, considering Smedley Butler, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kerry, Ulysses Grant, William Sherman, etc. and this is without counting right-wing generals who opposed MacArthur's attempts to invade China like Omar Bradley or the use of military force in Vietnam like Matthew Ridgway.

It is noteworthy all those examples pre-date the military becoming an all volunteer force.

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ReV VAdAUL: Oct 3, 2004; I'm WILD about
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Effectronica posted:

All of them were volunteers, dude, even Kerry, and Grant and Sherman entered before conscription was enacted.

It may be a coincidence but the shift further right among military leadership and lack of any public opposition to war or war crimes among the leadership does track with the end of conscription.

Also, while the lower ranks of the military are more diverse than the top ranks all the polling I've seen shows the military to poll much more Republican than the national average. This also leaves aside issues such as infiltration of the Air Force by fundamentalist Christians.

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