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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/02/brisbane-airport-rejects-climate-change-billboard-as-too-political?CMP=soc_567quote:Brisbane airport rejects climate change billboard as ‘too political’
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It makes sense for an airport to not want to have climate change advertising, large volume air travel is unsustainable.
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Everyone is aware that Adani have the rights to Abbot point? Coal is good, renewable energy bad. http://www.greenpeace.org/australia/Global/australia/volunteer/Adani's%20record.pdf Their track record is awful and this world is a corrupt poo poo hole full of self serving sociopaths. quote:Introduction There's more if you follow the link. This is right up the Liberals alley though with all that corruption and hush money.  Look where Abbot point is in relation to the reef. This country is a loving poo poo hole, seriously. And yet Liberal voters think the Greens are crazy. What a world we live in. i got banned fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Didn't realise it was that close to the Whitsundays.
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My Imaginary GF posted:What was Australia like during the neolithic era? There's actually a surprisingly good wikipedia article about it
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NTRabbit posted:Boat people came and went as they pleased There was even a land bridge with Indonesia during the last ice age.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There was even a land bridge with Indonesia during the last ice age. 
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-03/surgeons-urge-weight-loss-surgery-in-public-health-system/5861398quote:Surgeons urge authorities to make weight loss procedures available in public health system Sensible idea, IMO
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Amethyst posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-03/surgeons-urge-weight-loss-surgery-in-public-health-system/5861398 Seems like a good idea to me. What are the chances of it actually happening though?
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Recently watched a documentary called "Fed Up" which basically analyses the food industry and diet in Americans, of which we have many similarities to over here. There was a section about surgery to help the situation and why it can be a good thing. However, it points the blame away from the real culprits in the food industry who get rich by making people sick and forcing governments pay millions of dollars in unnecessary health services for 100% avoidable health problems. Get maccas to pay for them.
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And here I was expecting to find an article about Vietnamese brass drums. Zenithe posted:Recently watched a documentary called "Fed Up" which basically analyses the food industry and diet in Americans, of which we have many similarities to over here. What are amphetamine regulations like in Australia? In America, we used to eat way worse while taking more meth and laxatives.
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Zenithe posted:Recently watched a documentary called "Fed Up" which basically analyses the food industry and diet in Americans, of which we have many similarities to over here. Yeah a junk food tax isn't a bad idea.
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Nov 3, 2014 02:23
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A junk food tax would only work if it was also used to increase the availability of and decrease the cost of healthier foods.
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Nov 3, 2014 02:26
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Amethyst posted:Yeah a junk food tax isn't a bad idea. Except that this would effectively be a poor tax. Regulation of the food industry would be a better idea, and it'd pay for itself by reducing the costs of medicare.
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It wouldn't be a poor tax because Mcdonald's aren't idiots and they know their market. They would work to change their recipes to fall outside of the tax-incurring sugar/salt/fat levels. McDonalds aren't going to sell 8 dollar burgers
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Splode posted:Except that this would effectively be a poor tax. I agree, we shouldn't tax cigarettes or alcohol or CO2 emissions.
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Splode posted:Except that this would effectively be a poor tax. You don't need to be rich to eat healthy. You do need to be decently educated in nutrition though, and I'm guessing the two are correlated to a certain degree. quote:Regulation of the food industry would be a better idea, and it'd pay for itself by reducing the costs of medicare. Regulating what exactly? Nutrition content?
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GoldStandardConure posted:A junk food tax would only work if it was also used to increase the availability of and decrease the cost of healthier foods. Yeah this is important, along with ending our reliance on cars and improving public transport and cycling infrastructure. One day when I have time I would really like to write out a huge cycling post with questions for Cartoon. I find the issue very interesting.
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How would junk food industry regulation work? Cutting out junk food advertising targetting kids is an obvious start but I can't think of another viable policy to really solve the problem outside of a simple tax.
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Amethyst posted:How would junk food industry regulation work? Cutting out junk food advertising targetting kids is an obvious start but I can't think of another viable policy to really solve the problem outside of a simple tax. In America, its a really complex issue because the question rapidly becomes, what do you tax and what do you define as falling within that tax? Does a beer which uses added fruits and sugars during production fall under your tax scheme?
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Nov 3, 2014 02:35
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We already have massive taxes on Beer so no worries there.
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Amethyst posted:We already have massive taxes on Beer so no worries there. I'm genuinely surprised and deeply sorry for your unfortunate situation. What about apple ciders? Are small-brews/distillaries taking off in Australia? In North America, there is a 6 month 23 day backlog on used bottling machines.
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All alcoholic beverages are taxed according to how strong they are. I'm finding it difficult to find a succinct summary of the rate. There are some small breweries over here but they tend to get swallowed up into large conglomerates as soon as they gain a bit of market traction. It is nowhere close to the level craft breweries in the US
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It feels like the microbrewery situation is a lot better than it was 5-10 years ago, but I've got nothing to back that up.
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Nov 3, 2014 02:44
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Amethyst posted:All alcoholic beverages are taxed according to how strong they are. I'm finding it difficult to find a succinct summary of the rate. This can't be right, or at least not consistent. You can get ~40 standards in a box of goon for less than $15
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Nov 3, 2014 02:45
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Apparently we pay an average of $1 per shot in tax for spirits.
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Zenithe posted:This can't be right, or at least not consistent. You can get ~40 standards in a box of goon for less than $15 Yeah I'm trying to comprehend the documents from the ATO and it's an insanely complicated mess of exceptions and thresholds. A tax accountant could build an entire career of this one thing, it seems.
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Excise rates for alcohol in Australia. E: I think. And it's a mess.
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Mad Katter posted:One day when I have time I would really like to write out a huge cycling post with questions for Cartoon. I find the issue very interesting.  Forget taxation the best public health initiative is proper labelling. Red/Orange/Green is the preferred health outcome model and study, after study has shown it to be cheap, easy and effective.
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Nov 3, 2014 02:47
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Some formula based on the amount of sugar/salt/calories per gram would do it.
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Cartoon posted:Me too Yeah which is why the industry voluntarily came up with the standard of putting kilojoule values all over everything before someone forced them to conform to a system that doesn't make consumers perform triple digit arithmetic in their heads.
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Amethyst posted:How would junk food industry regulation work? Cutting out junk food advertising targetting kids is an obvious start but I can't think of another viable policy to really solve the problem outside of a simple tax. simple tax wouldn't be that simple, as it requires a definition of junk food. You can bet your bottom dollar it'd take mcdonalds and the other chains about a week to have gotten around the legislation, and the food would still be unhealthy. Also the 'you can eat healthy even if you're poor' isn't all that accurate for a bunch of reasons, but the one that I think is most important is time. Eating healthy can be cheap, but requires you to prepare every meal yourself. People who are working fulltime don't always have this luxury, and would have to make a bunch of sacrifices to their free time or sleep to actually do it. Also lol if you think knowing that junk food is unhealthy actually effects how much you eat it.
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The food industry don't help, but they're just doing what they can to make money. Governments are the responsible parties in this whole issue, particularly their planning departments.
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Splode posted:simple tax wouldn't be that simple, as it requires a definition of junk food. You can bet your bottom dollar it'd take mcdonalds and the other chains about a week to have gotten around the legislation, and the food would still be unhealthy. Well, what is a practical solution then?
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Amethyst posted:Well, what is a practical solution then? 1. Food that is prepared from other ingredients (doesn't cover fruit & vege) 2. Food that is wholly intended to be eaten as-is, rather than as a component of other food items (doesn't cover insta-meals) 3. Food that exceeds a certain amount of sugar/salt/fat/energy content per gram Simple.
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Zenithe posted:You do need to be decently educated in nutrition though This is much harder than it sounds. At the very least, there is a massive amount of, if not directly contradictory, then very confusing information out there. 10 years ago if you ate eggs a couple times a week, your loving DOCTOR would tell you that you're going to have a heart attack by age 12 (minor exaggeration, you get my point). Nowadays it's just 'eat all the eggs. Maybe not a dozen per day but enjoy those drat tasty eggs'. Fat was just 'fat'. Now there's simple fats, complicated fat, good fats, bad fats, trans fats, good cholesterol, bad cholesterol, on and on the list goes. Every 5-10 years the whole concept of 'a healthy diet' seems to have had huge changes, if not complete re-writes. Paleo poo poo, the food pyramid, Atkins, activated almonds, free radicals in the body.. who the gently caress knows what you're supposed to concentrate on eating/avoiding anymore? At a certain point, I would argue for most people it just becomes an incomprehensible noisy mess and you just say 'gently caress it, bacon and eggs for breakfast three times a week, muesli and yoghurt for another 3, then on the 5th day of the test match, yea, we will break our fast with an indian pale ale'. Is my blood pressure alright? Cardiovascular function? Weight? Good, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing.
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Historical materialism.
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Well, I'm convinced. Instead of going to a strip club, guys should head down to the local stare club.
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