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A gift economy would be better. From each according to his needs to each according to their ability. That's my opinion, thank you for reading.
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GMI is just another way of trying to patch up the holes in the sinking ship of capitalism all because the captain and crew don't want to admit that other boats without holes built in during the manufacturing process might be more buoyant.
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Nov 3, 2014 00:56
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My Lil Parachute posted:I really hope a country tries it. A complete, closed loop, long-term attempt will be a glorious trainwreck. Thank you, Fatstrodamus. What are this week's lottery numbers? Anyone who refers to other people as parasites should, in my opinion, be completely discounted as being not serious about anything but smelling their own farts. It's already been tried and it helped prop up capitalism just as much as any other incremental reform has. Arri fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 14:44
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So you think the economy works the way your Conservative voting nana's email fwds claim.
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Nov 3, 2014 15:06
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~117 trillion dollars in hoarded wealth by the wealthy in the US alone, by the way.
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Nov 3, 2014 18:15
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archangelwar posted:The fact that this entire thread is being derailed by concern trolling over an issue that deals with less than 2% of Americans just goes to show the desperate lengths people will go through to argue against an idea without directly coming out and stating that they don't want to see money going to minorities/poor. Jesus loving Christ, like the idea of Americans living overseas is a completely insurmountable obstacle to ever implementing any policy. No, he pretty much came out and said it.
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Nov 4, 2014 03:34
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Reminder that nationalism is just as repugnant as racism.
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Nov 4, 2014 03:39
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down with slavery posted:It literally doesn't matter because the cost isn't an issue. We have more than enough wealth to provide a mincome for every resident of the US. Anyone saying otherwise is arguing in bad faith. Please stop trolling "on the left" with your username. It isn't fair!
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Nov 4, 2014 04:17
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I don't mind expats getting mincome, as they are also people. Can we move past this derail? I suggest discussing implementation of the idea instead of whether it should actually happen. I have no ideas for implementation as I think it's just a stopgap measure and I do not typically support reformist half measures, but I would certainly like to see others' ideas on how to implement the system so that people could afford healthcare, housing, food, clothes and a semi-comfortable existence without relying on "work or die" ideology.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:21
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down with slavery posted:Having discussions about the minutae takes away from the real discussion to be had, which is why so many people are such poo poo to their common man. Yes, I can definitely agree with this.
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down with slavery posted:We can tax wealth. We call it a "property tax". hth This is correct, and according to well known socialist magazine business insider: business insider posted:Last week's annual CapGemini/RBC survey of investors worldwide showed the number of households with more than $1 million in investable wealth rose almost 15 percent to 13.7 million in the year through 2013. Their total wealth rose almost 14 percent to $53 trillion, it estimated. My previously posted figure of 117 trillion was incorrect and based on a different article I read a few weeks ago, so my bad on that. However, as you can see the wealthy have plenty of wealth to redistribute yet still remain insanely rich.
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