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Caros
May 14, 2008

Dengue_Fever posted:


Long live our corporate stooges. :patriot:

If you are unfamiliar with Hedges, who is one of the only people speaking the truth these days. Here is some background info on him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges

He's also got some sweet youtube videos thrashing elites and the Empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQky0mTizgY
http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/do_not_pity_the_democrats_20100913#14154617296101&action=collapse_widget&id=1968798

TLDR; Corporations control everything, including both parties. Therefore we should not get angry about or invest any energy in the farce of electoral politics. We should instead focus on building economies that exclude powerful, hierarchical corporations.

I agree wholeheartedly. I just don't think investment in alternatives is a realistic solution. Unfortunately, it will take severe crisis. Thoughts?

My initial thought is that while he may be right, you're going to get a lot of flack for things like the bolded statements. I actually agree with a lot of your points but I get pretty much instant negative thoughts when someone says things like that. The phrasing is the same sort of thing you'd expect when someone is talking about a cult leader. He's the one who tells the truth... maaaaaan.

Likewise the thread title is simply absurd. Corporate Fascism? Yeah, mass corporate control over things sucks rear end, but it isn't Fascism. Fascism is a thing with a real definition, which has nothing to do with what you are talking about. You look just as silly calling it fascism as right wingers do when they scream about SOCIALISM!!!! Oh and you spelled Fascism wrong, which doesn't speak well to your understanding of the subject.

I'll have a more substantive reply once I'm not in the middle of my work day.

Caros fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 8, 2014

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Caros
May 14, 2008

Dengue_Fever posted:

Actually, what I said exactly was 'he is one of the only people', not 'the one', there's a distinction there. Thanks anyway.

Oh and sorry for misspelling the thread title, a little bit of dyslexia kicking in. Didn't read over it when I edited.

I stand by Nader's term 'American style fascism' or my term 'corporate fascism' as a good descriptor for the unifying ideology of the country. The corporations put their logos everywhere, they dominate messaging and propaganda through media and advertising. If you hope to have the privilege to rent yourself out for a living, you better do exactly what they want you to do, you worm, and you better not make any provocative posts on the Internet, either. Through control over money, resources, and messaging, they exert a highly authoritarian hold on American society. And if nationalism (the other part of fascism) serves their needs (as it often does) then so be it.

I didn't mean to imply that your cult didn't have several high ranking people, just that the way you are talking about him sounds culty. Saying "He is one of the only people speaking the truth these days" is an insane sounding statement because it goes towards the conspiracy theory/cult habit of talking about how only your chosen few know the real truth/secret knowledge/whatever.

As for your rewording, you can stand by it all you want, that doesn't make it correct. Making up and/or redefining the meaning of words is another cult-like behavior.

Don't take it too hard, I'm just bitter after the last Eripsa thread. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but you've gone about it so poorly that I simply can't trust you. I will never love again. :sigh:

Caros fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Nov 9, 2014

Caros
May 14, 2008

Dengue_Fever posted:

I hate you guys, most of you are more concerned with presentation and style than actual meaty ideas. Or with criticizing anything in a condescending manner. gently caress you guys. This is the last post I'm going to make in DnD. :(

You misspelled fascism in your title for a thread about what you mistakenly believe is fascism because some guy told you it is. Your post consisted of a couple of lines and links involved with you jerking off Chris Hedges, a four year old copy and paste Chris Hedges article from a news site I've never even heard of that involves such important and current political figures as Ralph Nader and then a TL;DR that is essentially "gently caress politics! Lets fix the system!" What did you think would happen?

To be perfectly honest I didn't even read the article because your presentation was such garbage I couldn't be assed to. All I get out of it is that I should Dehumanize myself and face to bloodshed.

For godssake, the word gets a little red squiggly underline in your title. How did you miss that? Are you actually Chris Hedges?

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